Handheld Rifle Brass Reloading


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Havok7416
September 21, 2012, 05:31 PM
Does anyone use a hand press to reload rifle brass? Previously I have done all my (pistol) test loads using a Lee hand press before assembling the dies on my Dillon. It is taking an enormous amount of effort to squeeze the handle shut on my Lee press though. I am using lube so that isn't the problem. I am slightly reluctant to put the brass in my Dillon in case I stick a case.

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jwrowland77
September 21, 2012, 05:36 PM
Take a tip from your cleaning kit and scrub the inside on the neck, take a q-tip lightly lubed and swipe that inside the neck, lightly lube outside of case. Bam, easy resizing.

rcmodel
September 21, 2012, 05:46 PM
A Lee hand press doesn't have enough leverage to resize bottleneck rifle brass.

Unless you are the Incredible Hulk.

I'd use the Dillon.

Even if you stick a case & pull the rim off, that ain't that hard to get out.

All you need to do is drill & tap the primer pocket (#7 drill - 1/4"-20 tap), drop a socket over it, and screw it out with a bolt.

rc

Havok7416
September 21, 2012, 06:00 PM
Thank you for the information RC. I will put it to use.

Ky Larry
September 21, 2012, 06:09 PM
I,too, lube the inside of the case neck on bottle neck cases before resizing. After they're resized I throw them back in the tumbler for 30 minutes to clean the lube out of the case neck.
Dillon presses are built like tanks. You should have no problems resizing.

readyeddy
September 21, 2012, 06:13 PM
I use my Lee Hand Press to load 30 06. Just make sure you lube inside the neck in addition to the exterior of the case and it's pretty easy.

splattergun
September 21, 2012, 07:00 PM
I use my hand press to load a few 30-06 when i'm out camping. I only neck size those, though, and leave the FL sizing for the bench press. A dab of lube for the swab inside and outside of the neck, not a problem.
I'll also use it to neck size and deprime while I watch Hell on Wheels.

Havok7416
September 21, 2012, 07:08 PM
What is the difference between neck sizing and full length? Do you just insert the brass so far for that?

splattergun
September 21, 2012, 07:22 PM
What is the difference between neck sizing and full length? Do you just insert the brass so far for that?
2 different dies, one for FL, 1 for neck sizing. The Lee Deluxe rifle die sets include the collet neck sizing die.

Vern Humphrey
September 21, 2012, 07:40 PM
A Lee hand press doesn't have enough leverage to resize bottleneck rifle brass.

Unless you are the Incredible Hulk.
I used a Lee hand press for everything during the year and a half I spent in Detroit. You may not look like the Incredible Hulk when you start, but 18 months later people will notice.:p

Havok7416
September 21, 2012, 07:40 PM
This is making bottleneck cartridges very not fun.

Vern Humphrey
September 21, 2012, 07:55 PM
Think of it as weight training.:D

Havok7416
September 21, 2012, 08:10 PM
And why would I be training my weights?

rcmodel
September 21, 2012, 09:46 PM
You ever been around any untrained weights?

They will put a real load on you just cleaning up after them.

Not to mention the obedience thing.

rc

FiveInADime
September 21, 2012, 11:09 PM
You guys are hi-larry-ess. I have been wanting to get one of those Lee hand presses to seat bullets at the range. I wondered how easy it would be to size with it.

plmitch
September 21, 2012, 11:44 PM
I use one at the range for reloading 7.62x54r. Very easy to us, very little effort needed.

.22-5-40
September 22, 2012, 01:22 AM
Not exactly a "press", but I load .25-25 Stevens using an old original nickled Ideal No. 3 adjustable tong tool. I also use one in .38 Spec. to crimp .38 long-colt. (no shell holder & die can be threaded down for shorter case).

Certaindeaf
September 22, 2012, 01:33 AM
When it comes to the hand-tool loaders, I've only ever had (and still use occasionally) a Lee whacker.. loads exceptionally accurate rifle rounds. Maybe I'll have to get me one of those Lee hand presses just for the fun of it.

Dudemeister
September 22, 2012, 01:41 AM
I reload my 30-30 using a Lee handpress. I resize full length, and it works great.

to lube the cases, I put all the cases in a tray mouth up, and use Hornady OneSHot lube all around, and a little bit inside the neck, and haven't had any problems.

Salmoneye
September 22, 2012, 09:55 AM
I own one 'press'...It is a 20 something year old Lee hand press...

It has done everything I ever asked of it from straight walled 'pistol' calibers, to .30-06...It does .30-30, .35 Remington, and has been used to reform .30-30 into .357 Herrett before fire-forming...

The only 'lube' I am using lately is this:

http://www.savexlipcare.com/jpg/0079s-savex.jpg

I touch one finger to the 'lube', coat the outside of the case, and then scrape my finger across the mouth...

I am slow, but consistent...

Certaindeaf
September 22, 2012, 10:11 AM
^
And have smooth glossy lips!

Vern Humphrey
September 22, 2012, 10:23 AM
I use "Ed's Red" to lubricate cases -- that's E.C. Harris formula of ATF, Stoddard's solvent, acetone and deodorized kerosene. I mix lanolin with it as well.

pcf
September 22, 2012, 10:38 AM
I bought a handpress for one of those end of the world scenarios, so I could reload without lugging around bench mounted press. If you're worried about stuck cases stick with the dillon. I've gotten a .280 case stuck in a .270 die (no comment on how that happened) in the handpress and due to the lack of leverage had to clamp the press in a vise and put a pipe over the handle to tear off the case rim.

I've since sold it to a friend who uses it to play around with his 45-70 BP loads at the range.

jwrowland77
September 22, 2012, 10:50 AM
The lube I use that works great is mink oil shoe polish.

Vern Humphrey
September 22, 2012, 10:51 AM
I've since sold it to a friend who uses it to play around with his 45-70 BP loads at the range.
one of the advantages of the Lee handpress is that you can load right at the range, so it's ideal for developing loads.

hang fire
September 23, 2012, 02:24 AM
A Lee hand press doesn't have enough leverage to resize bottleneck rifle brass.

Unless you are the Incredible Hulk.

I'd use the Dillon.

Even if you stick a case & pull the rim off, that ain't that hard to get out.

All you need to do is drill & tap the primer pocket (#7 drill - 1/4"-20 tap), drop a socket over it, and screw it out with a bolt.

rc
Odd, my 71 year old wife has reloaded .243 on her Lee hand press for years.

jcwit
September 23, 2012, 11:37 AM
I still prefer the Lee Loaders where one uses a mallet or arbor press to reload with, actually the same principal as the Wilson dies.

SHR970
September 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
rcmodel said: A Lee hand press doesn't have enough leverage to resize bottleneck rifle brass.

Unless you are the Incredible Hulk.

I only stand 5'4" and am not in great physical shape....unless you consider round to be a great shape.:p

For 18 years my ONLY press was a Lee Hand Press. During that time I have loaded thousands of bottle neck cases: 223, 6.5x55, 280 Rem., 308, 30-06, 300 Win. Mag., and 375 RUM.

Just make sure you lube your cases well. Stuck cases are a bear. I finally broke that press trying to get a 6.5 brass unstuck. That same brass had the handle of a RCBS Rockchucker Two bowing before it finally popped out. I bought a replacement hand press because I found over the years that they can be quite handy....especially for in the field load development.

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