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cavemanforester
September 22, 2012, 11:41 AM
Help
I am getting a brand new wall tent ready for its first elk hunt. The directions call for subtracting 2 inches from each measurement and in a later step subtracting another 2 to 4 inches from the shortened measurement, at least thats the way I read it. Am I on the right track?

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JohnM
September 22, 2012, 01:27 PM
You building an internal frame of sawed lumber?
About the only way to do it is stretch a tape across where you want your frame pieces to be. You want the canvas to hang snug, but not too tight and be square and reach the ground all around. Need to be sure the front flaps will shut and tie off.
I never used anything but peeled poles. When the forest circus let us leave everything set up we built nice permanent internal frames, after they made us tear down everything every season we just started setting up with cross poles and a simple ridge pole through the tent.

X-Rap
September 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
I would say you need to set up the tent using poles as JohnM described and then get actual measurements unless the tent maker has them already. You will want to get the angles right and maybe even build a template. Is this for a metal/conduit frame?
If you are setting up at a trailhead the metal frame will be great but if you are packing in site cut poles are the way to go.

cavemanforester
September 22, 2012, 11:14 PM
Thanks
This is an internal frame kit using conduit. The directions recommended taking measurements, taking 2 inches off of each measurement to allow for shrinkage. In another step, the directions recommended taking 2 to 4 inches off for the angle kit pieces. I wanted to make sure that I wasnt making the frame too small. So I did that today, set up the tent and discovered a flaw in the canvas. The tent needs to go back, and I have now cut all of my poles. Hopefully I will get a new tent, and hopefully that tent will be close to the same size.
Our camp is a drive in, so the internal frame seemed like a good idea. I have used lodgepoles before and they work well, as do pipes and 2 by 2's. Thanks for your help fellas, wish me luck getting a replacement.

JohnM
September 23, 2012, 08:10 AM
We used to get canvas tents from Sheridan Tent and Awning. Good stuff.
If that's where you got yours, they ought to be able to explain what they mean about those cutting lengths for a frame.
I still don't understand this measuring system you described.

Viper225
September 24, 2012, 02:50 AM
I just got our new 12' X 17' Canvas Wall Tent up and running.

I used a pair of 2x4 pine boards for the Ridge pole sleeved together with a 12" section of 2" X 4" Steel Tubing. The sleeve was screwed to one ridge pole.

It has 3 vertical poles supporting the Ridge Pole. They are 8' in length 2" X 4" pine boards as well. I installed Pins in the top end of the poles. The end poles have a pin long enough to go completely through the Ridge Pole and stick through the Tent Groumet about 2-1.2". The center pole pin is only about 2-1/2" long and goes into the sleeve on the solidly attached end.

My wall tent has 5' side walls. I cut these poles from 10 LF 2" X 6" pine cut in half, and ripped into 3 poles. These 5' poles also had pins installed. These side poles go on the outside of the tent through groumets on the side.

This system requires quite a bit of rope. The side pole rope is 11 LF in length.
The ones going to the Ridge Pins front and back are 18 LF.
These ropes have a Loop on one end and a 2" x 8" pine board adjuster on the other. The adjuster has 2 holes drilled two inches from each end.

This is a very weather resistand set.

We have a side Stove Jack for our Outfitter Model Cylinder Stove.

With a 14' X 14' Dining Fly attached to the front of the tent, this is our home away from home.

Bob

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