[HDCamel]

I'm not allowed to carry in my workplace so I keep my 1911 in my glovebox while I'm at work.
Unfortunately, over the summer I realized that the gun could sometimes be too hot to handle (like when you touch the metal part of a seatbelt buckle).

Now I have all of Fall, Winter, and Spring to come up with a solution before next summer.

So a couple of questions:
1 - Would a polymer frame be more resistent to getting hot?
2 - Are there any solutions besides keeping the gun in an insulated container?

[JustinJ]

I have the same problem with my Ruger P89. It gets hot but not too hot too hold. You could look at one of those rubber sleeves that goes over the grip. They are generally used to provide a better grip. The problem is much less with Polymer framed guns.

[627PCFan]

Same deal here. I notice my wood grips arent too hot to touch but the metal is. Not sure what you would do for a 1911. I worry more about increased pressure from the powder than burning my hands :)

[K1500]

Obviously polymer would transfer less heat to your hand. Store it in the console or perhaps a small lunchbox type softsided cooler and I cant imagine it getting too hot to hold.

[brickeyee]

The lower mass, heat capacity, and conduction rate of heat of the polymer will reduce the felt heat.

[ATLDave]

Obviously polymer would transfer less heat to your hand. Store it in the console or perhaps a small lunchbox type softsided cooler and I cant imagine it getting too hot to hold.

Right. Polymer won't get less hot, but it will feel less hot. Metal is more conductive, so you feel whatever heat, or lack thereof, it possesses more quickly and intensely. That's why metal objects in a cool room feel colder than, say, upholstery.

[Friendly, Don't Fire!]

I had a vehicle once that I put a chrome steel ball on for the shifter knob, epoxied to the shifter handle.

Man, I would literally burn my hand when I had to shift after getting in at the end of work during mid-summer!

Then, in winter, the darn thing was so cold, my hand would freeze to it. I finally had to put a glove on it on those days!

[ApacheCoTodd]

Even in Arizona, I've never noticed it to be a problem other than picking one up sitting directly in the sun like on a tailgate - now that's too hot, otherwise I find them at worst, uncomfortable.

As far as leaving it in the glove compartment... bad plan. The glove compartment and consoles are where the short-thinkers look first after breaking into a car. These days they'll do it on spec around here, especially if there are dash mounts or suction marks on the windshield from holders for devices which are easily pawned.

[HDCamel]

Guns in cars are quite likely to be stolen or "discovered" when and by people you don't want to. I'd look into bolting a vault to the floor, with welds preventing the nuts from being removed. Set it up with either your finger prints or a number code, etc, and arrange for some insulating material to keep it cooll.
My car is too small for such a setup.
Besides, I'm not too worried. I only keep it in my car while I'm at work (because I can't keep it on me) and I can see my car from the window.

[ny32182]

Yep... Glock or other plastic will do the trick. However if you needed to use it I doubt the grip being hot would be something you'd even notice.

[The Lone Haranguer]

1 - Would a polymer frame be more resistent to getting hot?
Any metal - and at least the frontstrap of a 1911 grip is bare metal - is going to be hotter than polymer.

2 - Are there any solutions besides keeping the gun in an insulated container?
Put the gun in some sort of pistol rug?

[Drail]

Put a sunshade in your windshield. Leave your windows cracked. Put it in an old cooler in the back.

[R.W.Dale]

Put a sunshade in your windshield. Leave your windows cracked. Put it in an old cooler in the back.

Sunshades flat work! Especially the reflexive foil backed ones. I use one all the time in warm weather and I'm always amazed at how well it works especially if I park facing west




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[jmr40]

A Glock stays in my console all the time. It gets pretty hot here and I've never had the least bit of discomfort when picking it up.

[CMC]

Try Agrip I use it on my carry 1911 , It works in the winter to keep the cold frame from my body and in the summer it wont get hot, it is like a suede and improves the grip with swety or wet hands.

http://www.brookstactical.com/Pages/whtsagrp.html

you can buy also here http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=42856/pid=1582/Product/SEMI-AUTO-AGRIP

[cougar1717]

OP didn't specify, but an aluminum framed 1911 would shed heat faster than a steel framed one. That said, polymer being an insulator would only be warm to the touch in a car.

[Remllez]

I'd try putting it in a Remora holster then stash it where you want. The material seems a good insulator and they aren't too expensive. Just a thought, hope you find something that works for you.

[Steve in PA]

Sorry, but unless the gun is in direct sunlight, there is no way it can get too hot to handle inside a glove compartment. There is no possible way the temperature inside the glove compartment or any other compartment gets that high.

[Byrd666]

I've been using a "fliptop" cable lock, lock box for my pistol. I've wrapped the cable around the seat frame of my vehicle and keep the "safe" under my seat, out of sight, and out of the sun. It ends up being warm but, not hot after a full 10+ inside. My car is kept fairly dirty as well so as not to attract a few unwanted eyes.

[SlowFuse]

I'm in AL and have never had a problem handling my glock after a day in the car. Even when I forget to crack the window!

[1SOW]

Sorry, but unless the gun is in direct sunlight, there is no way it can get too hot to handle inside a glove compartment. There is no possible way the temperature inside the glove compartment or any other compartment gets that high.

Sir, you are mistaken. The inside of a vehicle in 100 deg weather can exceed 140degs.
140 degrees is way over skin tolerance.

[R.W.Dale]

Sir, you are mistaken. The inside of a vehicle in 100 deg weather can exceed 140degs.
140 degrees is way over skin tolerance.

Note the gentelman's location.

I'm sure there's a bit of difference in pa summertime temps vs the good old south




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[TennJed]

Guns in cars are quite likely to be stolen or "discovered" when and by people you don't want to. I'd look into bolting a vault to the floor, with welds preventing the nuts from being removed. Set it up with either your finger prints or a number code, etc, and arrange for some insulating material to keep it cooll.
As long as it is not in view (and no stickers on auto to tip them off) it is no more likely to get stolen than anything else. A robber walking through the parking lot does not have sonar that will locate a hidden gun. Not sure how the crook would know what car has a gun and what doesn't.

A good case can be made for your lock box suggestion though, just for a different reason. If a gun is stolen it is a bigger loss than other items. Also a crook now has a gun in his hand.

[hentown]

I live in the really hot South. I'm convinced that this problem can best be solved by treatment for OCD. There is no problem with the firearm's being too hot, except between the ears of the obsessor. :cool:

[HDCamel]

Sorry, but unless the gun is in direct sunlight, there is no way it can get too hot to handle inside a glove compartment. There is no possible way the temperature inside the glove compartment or any other compartment gets that high.
I live in VA and we've had some record highs this year.

The fact is that different people have different sensitivity to heat. I hate heat. If heat were a person I would stab it in the face and gladly serve time in jail, constantly muttering to myself "worth it". The gun is too hot for ME to handle comfortably.

Anyway, it's mostly just a precaution. I don't want to reflexively drop my gun (as I already have while casually grabbing it) because it's too hot if/when I grab it to defend myself. It's exactly the same kind of concern as forgetting to disengage a safety or what kind of retention you want in a holster. I want to stack the odds in my favor by controlling as many variables as possible.

[BemidjiDweller]

In my old vehicle, the glove box would get scotching hot during most summer days, even up here in MN. I remember after classes my ipod being too hot to hold. After I turned 21 and started using a lockbox, the slide of my P95 would get pretty dang toasty from under the seat.

Steve in PA, maybe not in your vehicle, please remember not everyone drives the same car/truck you do.

[beatledog7]

While the frame can become uncomfortably hot, I have no concerns about increased pressure from the extra heat. The heat generated by the round being ignited is so much higher than ambient--any ambient--that the gun won't notice the tiny difference that might be encountered.

Average flame temp of a handgun round at firing = 3300F

Max temp inside sun-heated car = 170F. That's 100F higher than room temp.

A hundred additional degrees is just 3-1/3 % more heat than the round is going to generate when the primer is struck at room temp. Somebody more versed in internal ballistics is sure to know the temperature/pressure relationship more exactly, but to me that doesn't add up to a dangerous pressure increase unless your round is marginally overloaded already.

[Certaindeaf]

Oven mitts. Or Kung-Fu harden your hands up. You know.. plunge them into lava rock pebbles for a couple years.

[JustinJ]

Sorry, but unless the gun is in direct sunlight, there is no way it can get too hot to handle inside a glove compartment. There is no possible way the temperature inside the glove compartment or any other compartment gets that high.

It sure can get too hot to handle comfortably. I challenge anybody to leave a metal framed gun in their car all day in 95 degree plus weather and then put it in a IWB holster that allows the metal to touch bare skin.

Holster selection can be very important here even if your gun is polymer because the slide on bare skin will hurt too.

An insulated box such as a cooler will eventually get just as hot as the rest of the car. It only slows heat transfer.

My car is kept fairly dirty as well so as not to attract a few unwanted eyes.

LOL! Riiiggght. Mine too. Its not that i don't feel like cleaning it. I too keep it dirty to reduce the likelihood of break in's. Umm, yeah, that's its.

[Certaindeaf]

I think a lot of new cars come with built in coolers. Get one of those. Set it to like 75 though or you'd just be chasing your tail.

[X-Rap]

First I've heard of a gun getting to hot due to method of storage. Polymer would probably melt in such conditions so that's not even an option:rolleyes:
How can the OP touch anything else in the car like the steering wheel, shifter, door handle, radio controls.
I think a good suggestion was the foil shield and I would add keeping the gun on the floor under the seat as well. If security is an issue then use a cable/chain and lock around the seat base or run an eye bolt through the bottom of the center console and cable lock it in there.
Direct sunlight is a whole other matter, metal exposed to direct sun, especially in southern desert areas can be unbearable to handle at times.

[TennJed]

First I've heard of a gun getting to hot due to method of storage. Polymer would probably melt in such conditions so that's not even an option:rolleyes:
How can the OP touch anything else in the car like the steering wheel, shifter, door handle, radio controls.
I think a good suggestion was the foil shield and I would add keeping the gun on the floor under the seat as well. If security is an issue then use a cable/chain and lock around the seat base or run an eye bolt through the bottom of the center console and cable lock it in there.
Direct sunlight is a whole other matter, metal exposed to direct sun, especially in southern desert areas can be unbearable to handle at times.

The steering wheel, shifter, door handle, and radio are not metal. Metal can absolutely get too hot. I felt like such a bad parent one time because I touched my child's leg with the metal part of a seat beat while buckling her. It left a red welt and it obviously caused pain.

I would pay good money to see how long any nansayers can hold onto a seat belt latch in my truck on a July afternoon at 2:30. It is hot in Mississippi

[W.E.G.]

My question to the OP:

If the insides of your car are that hot, how do you handle the steering wheel?

[R.W.Dale]

My question to the OP:

If the insides of your car are that hot, how do you handle the steering wheel?

If they're made of metal like a handgun the answer is that you couldn't.




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[BemidjiDweller]

The steering wheel and the window seal in my old vehicle were scorching hot during most of the summer months. I just grabbed for a part of the wheel that wasn't in direct sunlight and tried to remember to not rest my arm on the window seal until it cooled down. That vehicle was a 92 volvo station wagon. There wasn't a thing in that vehicle that didn't have a steel plate or rod in it.

[HDCamel]

My question to the OP:

If the insides of your car are that hot, how do you handle the steering wheel?
I have an insulated steering wheel cover.

Also, if the gear shift is too hot sometimes I grab the shaft which has a fake leather skirt covering it rather than the ball on the end.

[quartermaster]

I wonder what effect the heat is having on the powder, especially if the gun isn't fired for a couple of months

[chicharrones]

In the summers of Southeast Texas, I've only seen my actual gun temperture hit around 118 to 120 degrees F on my Glock. That is with the gun in a center console and sun screens closing off the windshield and easy to pick up and hold. The temp is checked with one of the common infrared thermometers available anywhere.

Since I don't usually keep an all metal gun in my car, my memory is lacking on the temp those guns get to, but I remember it being as hot as leaving a metal gun in the sun. A bit too warm to want to hold, depending on the day.

[colorado_handgunner]

Obviously polymer would transfer less heat to your hand. Store it in the console or perhaps a small lunchbox type softsided cooler and I cant imagine it getting too hot to hold.

Be careful how you store it. Read the laws in your state. In South Carolina it has to be in the console or the glove box. I don't know how locked containers work here legally.

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[X-Rap]

Well now I just have to call BS on some of this. People have been driving cars and trucks for over 100 yrs and only recently have they become vinyl covered on the inside. I still have a couple that are mostly exposed steel and little to no insulation and no air conditioning. Continuing with these horror stories about 1st degree burns makes me wonder how anyone survived.
Sit your but on the black seat of a 66 Power Wagon in August at about 6000'. Trust me your gun won't hurt you.

[R.W.Dale]

OK x-rap since your such a MAN I challange you to take the biggest metal spoon in your kitchen, put it in the oven at 150 for three hours and then BARE HANDED take it out and stick it in your shorts.

Doesn't sound fun huh.


And yes I remember my legs sizzling on dads black Vinyl as I would hop into his 73 Chevy truck. A feeling that ill avoid experiencing if I can. I'm guessing you're making sure exposed butt skin doesn't touch your power wagon seats either whether or not you admit it.


And for the record I've experienced and worked in HOT like nobody else here. Because you see I'm a welder by trade and if its 116 degrees and that 8" thick fracture critical column needs welded but only after 350° worth of preheat I don't get the luxury of waiting for cooler weather short sleeves or even getting to use a fan for that matter.




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[X-Rap]

RW I repaired cast steel slag pots in a copper smelter in the NM desert so yes I know about heat and preheat. Over the years because of some of my trades I have developed a high tolerance for heat and cold so I can say with great honesty that I have never had a problem holding a gun due to ambient heat.
If it was such a great problem I think someone would have worked it out by now and be reaping the financial benefits of the refrigerated grip or something else one might see on late night TV. 150 degrees for 3 hrs or all day is still 150 degrees, if your life depended on that spoon could you pick it up? I doubt that few guns would reach that high even in the worst day plus there are some basic precautions that will alleviate the gun reaching the high point of the cars temp.


On a side note, contemplate this little problem in comparison with those of our military after all the yrs fighting in places that get 135 in the shade and riding in a steel box with crappy if at all air conditioning and knowing that no matter how hot the gun is you must pick it up and hold it.
And for the record I've experienced and worked in HOT like nobody else here.
Care to rethink that?

[R.W.Dale]

Care to rethink that?

No





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[TennJed]

Well now I just have to call BS on some of this. People have been driving cars and trucks for over 100 yrs and only recently have they become vinyl covered on the inside. I still have a couple that are mostly exposed steel and little to no insulation and no air conditioning. Continuing with these horror stories about 1st degree burns makes me wonder how anyone survived.
Sit your but on the black seat of a 66 Power Wagon in August at about 6000'. Trust me your gun won't hurt you.
From where I am from most people would leave their windows cracked or down to lower the heat in a car. can't really do that in this day and time. It is easy to remember how "tough" we were many years ago

[HDCamel]

On a side note, contemplate this little problem in comparison with those of our military after all the yrs fighting in places that get 135 in the shade and riding in a steel box with crappy if at all air conditioning and knowing that no matter how hot the gun is you must pick it up and hold it.

Well, until the M16 all the gun stocks were made of wood and even the M16 has plastic furniture where you would touch it and aluminum anywhere else. And soldiers nowadays all wear gloves.

And whether something is DOABLE or not doesn't change the fact that it's uncomfortable. If someone's eyesight isn't great, would you fault them for using optics?

[hentown]

First I've heard of a gun getting to hot due to method of storage. Polymer would probably melt in such conditions so that's not even an option
How can the OP touch anything else in the car like the steering wheel, shifter, door handle, radio controls.
I think a good suggestion was the foil shield and I would add keeping the gun on the floor under the seat as well. If security is an issue then use a cable/chain and lock around the seat base or run an eye bolt through the bottom of the center console and cable lock it in there.
Direct sunlight is a whole other matter, metal exposed to direct sun, especially in southern desert areas can be unbearable to handle at times.

Yep, the polymer frame of a Glock, for example, will melt @ about 400*. Be sure and don't leave your Glock in a car, where the interior temp exceeds 400*F. :rolleyes:

[JustinJ]

If it was such a great problem I think someone would have worked it out by now and be reaping the financial benefits of the refrigerated grip or something else one might see on late night TV.


Yes, just because nobody has created a practical technological solution for a problem experienced by a small minority of the population it must not really be an issue for anybody.

And hot metal in a car is a problem that certainly influenced the use of plastics and other non-metallic materials on the interior of vehicles.

150 degrees for 3 hrs or all day is still 150 degrees, if your life depended on that spoon could you pick it up?

We're also talking about common handling of a gun. Just because one can endure a hot piece of metal in a life or death situation does not mean one wants to endure hot metal daily when there is no need to. Tolerating discomfort needlessly does not make one a tougher man, it makes him a foolish one.

On a side note, contemplate this little problem in comparison with those of our military after all the yrs fighting in places that get 135 in the shade and riding in a steel box with crappy if at all air conditioning and knowing that no matter how hot the gun is you must pick it up and hold it.

So because men in war have been forced to endure something uncomfortable it is unreasonable to want to avoid it? That's just silly.

Not to mention that the experience of picking up a hot piece of metal with sweaty hands after being out in the heat for some time is very different than picking it up with dry hands after walking to the car from an air conditioned building. But i guess we shouldn't be using AC either because soldiers have had to endure without it.

[GLOOB]

Since I don't usually keep an all metal gun in my car, my memory is lacking on the temp those guns get to
Same temperature as polymer. As others have already noted, it's the thermal mass and heat conductivity that make the difference.

When you pick up a big piece of hot iron that's, say 120 F, the surface of the iron will remain relatively close to 120F until the the entire piece of iron cools down. This is because iron is a good conductor of heat. As soon as the temp of the surface drops, heat is relatively quickly transferred from the surrounding material. (And the bigger mass of steel frames vs polymer also means there's a bigger store of heat to be transferred!)

When you pick up a hunk of plastic at 120F, the surface is initially 120F. But as soon as you touch it, the surface drops relatively closer to the temperature of your hand, despite the core of the plastic still being 150F. Plastic is more of an insulator than metal. It takes longer for the heat to migrate through the material to the cooler spots.

[Zebraranger]

I too live where it gets pretty hot (Florida). A small well padded soft pistol case helps considerably. Gun still get warm, but not too hot to handle.

[X-Rap]

That should have been the second post in this thread. Nice find, I'll be using this one.

[R.W.Dale]

That should have been the second post in this thread. Nice find, I'll be using this one.

Shouldn't matter as it's your contention that metal objects left in an enclosed motor vehicle parked for hours in southern summer sunlight don't actually get hot.




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[X-Rap]

Shouldn't matter as it's your contention that metal objects left in an enclosed motor vehicle parked for hours in southern summer sunlight don't actually get hot
No tools that lay on the black bed of my truck get hot, I cover them with something and get by fine.
Things in cars really don't get that bad, heck my dogs and kids have set for hours while I'm at the Gentlemans Club and been fine.:rolleyes:

[brickeyee]

heck my dogs and kids have set for hours while I'm at the Gentlemans Club and been fine.

BS.

Even in northern Virginia it gets hot enough in a closed car during the summer to kill dogs and infants.


A number of mothers, fathers, & caregivers have been charged and convicted after infants died.

[R.W.Dale]

BS.

Even in northern Virginia it gets hot enough in a closed car during the summer to kill dogs and infants.


A number of mothers, fathers, & caregivers have been charged and convicted after infants died.

I may not agree with x-rap but I did catch the sarcasm there ;-)




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[hentown]

When leaving infants in closed vehicles for extended periods of time, during the summer, just be sure and leave a bottle of cold beer for the infant to sip on. Works great!

[JustinJ]

According to the NOAA surfaces inside of a closed car in the summer can exceed 200 degrees. Obviously the gun will not be left out alone but air temperatures, and then pretty much everything else in the vehicle, can quickly rise due to convection.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/heat/#car

Tests conducted with results in the following site found air temps to reach 167 F in a parked car.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/heat/#car

Depending on contact time metal at such a temperatures can cause up to third degree burns. So lets move past the "toughen up" nonsense.

[Certaindeaf]

I think that an armadillo, when it curls up in a ball.. you know, like when it's kissing itself goodbye, can withstand like 400 degrees.
Also, I think that when an ostrich sticks its head in the sand, it's about immune to everything in the world and its brain is about the size of a pea. Mind over matter.. you can do it!
or not
no big whoop

[W.E.G.]

I'm still thinking that a handgun with a checkered wood grip is not going to burn anybody's hand.

I suppose though, it is possible to find a way to do just about anything wrong.
Lot of discussion of that on the internet these days.

Maybe if I knew I was going to be handling hot objects (steering wheels, gearshifts, guns, tools, baby-bottles, or whatever), I *might* just prepare for the situation by doing something exotic, like WEARING GLOVES.

Oh no,... wait, can't do that, I only wear shorts and flip-flops in the summer, and I don't have pockets to carry gloves.... :scrutiny:

[X-Rap]

Depending on contact time metal at such a temperatures can cause up to third degree burns. So lets move past the "toughen up" nonsense.





Can you really point to an incident in which someone recieved treatable burns from handling something left in a car parked in the sun?

[CZguy]

Maybe if I knew I was going to be handling hot objects (steering wheels, gearshifts, guns, tools, baby-bottles, or whatever), I *might* just prepare for the situation by doing something exotic, like WEARING GLOVES.

Wow..........that was a pretty big light bulb, that just illuminated.

[HDCamel]

I'm still thinking that a handgun with a checkered wood grip is not going to burn anybody's hand.

I could use my Dan Wesson 15-2 as my summer gun if I had a smaller grip and a 4" barrel, but I don't. I guess I have 3/4 of a year to get them though.

[DrDeFab]

Can you really point to an incident in which someone recieved treatable burns from handling something left in a car parked in the sun?

Yes. Here's a paper from the late '70s, describing second-degree burns from metal fittings on early car seats. OK, someone "handling" an item will probably drop it before it progresses from a first-degree to second-degree burn, but it definitely shows that the potential for damage is there.


Car Seat Burns in Infants: Avoiding Confusion With Inflicted Burns

Barton D. Schmitt,
Jane D. Gray,
Helen L. Britton

Department of Pediatrics, University of Colorado Medical Center, Denver

Abstract

Summertime drivers commonly experience annoyance, discomfort, or even exquisite pain from hot car seats. The fact that these hot surfaces can lead to second-degree burns in young infants is less well known. The purpose of this article is to report five cases of car seat burns in children, to review the data from a brief study on peak temperatures of car seats, to offer recommendations for preventing car seat burns, to review the diagnostic criteria of car seat burns, and to examine the problem of false accusations of child abuse in these cases.

Pediatrics Vol. 62 No. 4 October 1, 1978
pp. 607 -609

[X-Rap]

There you have it, conclusive data that likely came from a big brother gov study showing at least 5 children have been burned on car hot car seats.
That problem has been fixed now since you will be charged with child endangerment or worse if your infant child rides in anything but a gov approved car seat that no doubt has some sort of heat resistant fabric.

That many get cooked each year in cars and next year will be the same. I think most of us here are smart enough not to cook a kid so I would hope we could work around a hot gun.

I wonder if they just stopped at 5 or if there were more? At any rate I find the hot gun problem even less of an issue than kids and hot seats. Evolve, put things in perspective, try a different gun, actually see if the gun gets that hot, go about like an unarmed lamb, there are workable options if it really is that hot.

[TennJed]

There you have it, conclusive data that likely came from a big brother gov study showing at least 5 children have been burned on car hot car seats.
That problem has been fixed now since you will be charged with child endangerment or worse if your infant child rides in anything but a gov approved car seat that no doubt has some sort of heat resistant fabric.

That many get cooked each year in cars and next year will be the same. I think most of us here are smart enough not to cook a kid so I would hope we could work around a hot gun.

I wonder if they just stopped at 5 or if there were more? At any rate I find the hot gun problem even less of an issue than kids and hot seats. Evolve, put things in perspective, try a different gun, actually see if the gun gets that hot, go about like an unarmed lamb, there are workable options if it really is that hot.
No offense, but you are back tracking. You have gone from saying it is not possible, to it us possible but we should evolve and learn how to fix the problem. Which is exactly the OP point in this thread. He is merely trying to find out how others deal with it

[FAS1]

I'm still thinking that a handgun with a checkered wood grip is not going to burn anybody's hand.

I suppose though, it is possible to find a way to do just about anything wrong.
Lot of discussion of that on the internet these days.

Maybe if I knew I was going to be handling hot objects (steering wheels, gearshifts, guns, tools, baby-bottles, or whatever), I *might* just prepare for the situation by doing something exotic, like WEARING GLOVES.

Oh no,... wait, can't do that, I only wear shorts and flip-flops in the summer, and I don't have pockets to carry gloves.... :scrutiny:
You beat me to it. I always have a pair of Mechanix type gloves in my door pocket in case I need them. I haven't had the same problem as the OP since I rarely leave a gun in my car.

Some light weight drivers gloves would help with the steering wheel and shifter as well.

http://www.mynismo.com/images_products/L_7252.jpg

[X-Rap]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
sorry I forgot these
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Do you not see the irony in an almost 40 yr old article involving only 5 subjects and the silliness of 3 pages of debate over something that real or perceived is simple to remedy.
We have sent men to the Moon and are getting pictures from the surface of Mars, this is not a problem.

[Bozwell]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
sorry I forgot these
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Do you not see the irony in an almost 40 yr old article involving only 5 subjects and the silliness of 3 pages of debate over something that real or perceived is simple to remedy.
We have sent men to the Moon and are getting pictures from the surface of Mars, this is not a problem.
I'm pretty sure that landing a rover on Mars hasn't changed the laws of thermodynamics. Suggesting gloves is a bit silly. It's slow enough to draw your gun from a concealed location in your car. It's another to get out your gloves, put them on, and then draw your gun from a concealed location. If you're facing an imminent threat (pretty much the only reason to be drawing your gun), you might as well not bother.

The easy answer though is to keep the gun out of direct sunlight and/or use a polymer framed gun.

[X-Rap]

The easy answer though is to keep the gun out of direct sunlight and/or use a polymer framed gun.
That's been said since very early on, there is no doubt that the temp in a car can get quite high the difficulty seems to be in the fact that some can't seem to work around the obvious and keep the gun under the seat, in cloth case, use sun shield on windows, change their car gun to one of different composition.
To me personally I have never had a problem with a gun in my car being to hot and I have been keeping one in my car off and on for over 30 yrs in Iowa, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Kansas, Wyoming and many places in between. Maybe I got the storage problem right the first time and never let the gun get hot, I have stored them in the glove box, console, under the arm rest, side pocket on the door, under the seat and in the open when driving so I think I know what works for me. Over the yrs I have had all steel revolvers and autos as well as polymers, by choice now I pretty much exclusively carry poymers but it has little to do with what heat does to them.


I'm pretty sure that landing a rover on Mars hasn't changed the laws of thermodynamics.
No, landing on Mars is all about working out and through problems, real problems not percieved ones.

[Bozwell]

The other problem I would think is that if your gun is getting exposed to direct sunlight, it's also in view of anyone looking into your car. Given that one of the big concerns in leaving a gun in your car is having the gun stolen, leaving it out in plain view is probably not a good idea.

[JustinJ]

Do you not see the irony in an almost 40 yr old article involving only 5 subjects and the silliness of 3 pages of debate over something that real or perceived is simple to remedy.

Then why are you participating? What is silly is that we are having to debate if it is a valid concern or not. The notion that we must provide medical files of people burned by metal objects in the car to prove it can happen is ridiculous.



Polymer framed guns are less of an issue. If one prefers to stick with a metal framed gun then putting a rubber sleeve or grip panels over the handle is probably the next best solution.

Car shades actually will help very little with air temp of the car:
http://www.racq.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/48796/09_Temperature_in_Cars.pdf

However, if the storage location of the gun can be shaded from direct sun this may help.

Gloves will obviously make a hot gun much more comfortable to handle but putting on gloves to pick up a gun each time one gets in the car does not seem practical to me.

Placing the gun in an insulated container, such as a cooler, will delay temperature rise but if left in a hot car all day the effects will most certainly be negated.

One other option would be apply gun oil to the grips when getting into the car. Spraying a solvent would be even better but who wants to do so in their car much less on a regular basis?

Parking in a shaded area is also obviously a better option if available.

That, i think, is about all one can do.

[X-Rap]

Quick it's still warm enough before fall sets in that some tests could be made on the interior of a small lunch box style cooler or maybe one of those space blanket type bags that are supposed to keep things hot or cold. Maybe if one put his gun in the freezer at night it would retain its coolness all day in the cooler.
I would think one of those thermometers with the remote sensor would be just the ticket, I have one for my smoker that records the high and low as well as current.


I still think old Chopper had the best advise.;)

[murf]

hdcamel,

your gun will not be too hot to handle if left in the glove box. quit worrying about it!

murf

[HDCamel]

hdcamel,

your gun will not be too hot to handle if left in the glove box. quit worrying about it!

murf
Murf, it has already been too hot to handle from being in the glove box. I have empirically confirmed this on three separate occasions. Other times, while not TOO hot it was rather unpleasant.

[19&41]

A shade for the front windshield does reduce the interior heat. With it covering the dash it would keep down the temp in the glove box. If you can see the vehicle, park the rear facing you where you can see inside.

[Doc3402]

I put a pair of wrap around Hogues on mine. It gets darn hot in the cars down here, and they help a great deal.

I know this isn't a car forum, but have you considered a set of Vent-shades so you can leave the window cracked a bit? I had to put a pair on my Jeep to keep the door gaskets from getting blown out.