I got drawn for the inagural Minnesota wolf hunt!


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Fat_46
September 26, 2012, 11:20 PM
Good news: I got a tag:)

Bad news: it runs concurrent to firearm deer:mad:

Good news: I'm in a managed(2 deer) zone, so will most likely have some fairly fresh heads/carcasses/hides for bait:)

Bad news: I have NO idea how to pursue wolves:mad:

We have them on the property I hunt, but only one of our party has seen one "on the hoof (paw?). I've come across plenty of scat and tracks, however - some scat still steaming in the cool evening air.

OK - off to hunt the Google for wolf hunting strategy and tips.:evil:

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wyohome
September 27, 2012, 12:37 AM
Good luck. Most of us are new to it.

ljnowell
September 27, 2012, 12:55 AM
If have found it still steaming, you are almost there. Next time just try to get to the pooping spot a few minutes earlier.:neener:

ghoster
September 27, 2012, 11:10 AM
Might I sugest hunting the kitchen rather than the latrine.

There's no honor in shooting a man on the can :evil:

If you get a deer, bag the blood and entrails --- yuck:barf:

No respectable wolf would refuse the sent of a fresh yummy pile of guts, that prime rib in the carinvor world :p

HarcyPervin
September 27, 2012, 01:27 PM
two of the guys in my office got a tag too...going to be an interesting season.

1911 guy
September 28, 2012, 02:42 AM
I've heard that if you dress like a little girl in a red cape, the biggest wolf in the woods will meet you at your grandmas' house...

The closest I've ever come to wolf hunting is coyotes, and that's pretty far removed from what I have read. I have zero experience with this, but am interested, if only because it means the wolf population is growing enough to be managed by hunting.

shiftyer1
September 28, 2012, 03:04 AM
I am minnesota born and raised until age 21 or so. Wolves are pretty smart....I owned one when I was a kid. Make sure you really kill your scent, and the fresher the bait pile the better.

If they have full bellies your gonna have a hard time.

Fat_46
September 28, 2012, 10:26 PM
The property I hunt is agricultural, and surrounded on 2 sides with tax-forfeited forest. It starts with oak and poppel with a smattering of birch and progresses into 30 year old pine. It also has a fair amount of swamp back in the transition between the hardwood and pines.

All of the sign I've seen is located in that transition area. My best guess is they den/sleep in the dark pine area and hunt in the more open hardwood areas. Lots of draws and ridges for cover as well.

While I got drawn, my primary goal will be stocking the freezer with venison for the first season. If I'm fortunate enough to have my daughter take a deer(its her first year with a gun) on opening weekend I *might* switch focus. Hard to call until I'm out there.

Liberty1776
September 28, 2012, 10:40 PM
Good luck. I'd go pre-dawn to dusk (just like hunting deer). I certainly hope you get one, as I truly believe we have jest about enough of them...

Twig
September 30, 2012, 03:03 AM
I was drawn for the late season. I Hope all the tags are not filled in the first season.

walking arsenal
September 30, 2012, 03:37 AM
What do you plan to do with the wolf once you kill it?

dubya450
September 30, 2012, 11:53 AM
Lucky you! I seen a lone wolf off of 169 in Zimmerman last year. They're definitely thriving here in MN. I noticed you live in CR, we just moved from CR to St. Francis a few months back. Its nice being able to walk down the road to bowhunt!

dubya450
September 30, 2012, 12:04 PM
BTW, what caliber rifle would you use? I would think that anything that'll work for a deer should work for a wolf.

Trad Archer
September 30, 2012, 09:01 PM
I hope you get one as well as your office buddies. I used to hunt near International Falls but have stopped. Pretty sad when you see more wolves than deer. This wolf hunt is long overdue.

Fat_46
September 30, 2012, 11:09 PM
My caliber depends on the weather. Good weather I'll use a Rem 700 in .280. My rainy/snowy rifle is an Armalite -AR-10, as its parkerized. Either work for deer and should be good for wolf. I'm still figuring out a load, as I want to save as much pelt as possible.

Fremmer
October 1, 2012, 07:45 PM
Can you use a distress call on wolves?

Fat_46
October 1, 2012, 10:02 PM
I don't know (other than what I've read...and everyone know you can't lie on the internet) some folks seem to use calls effectively. My line of thought, though, is that as the 1st season coincides with Minnesota's firearms deer season the woods will be full of doe, fawn, and buck calls, contributing to just plain chatter.

My plan(as it stands today) will be to put the better part of a deer gutpile into a netting potato sack, then use that to create a trail from one of the major game trails in a transition area to my blind. In front of the blind about 50 yards out I'll have a head/hide and some more offal.

Will it work? I have absolutely no idea. I do plan on keeping my scent(and my daughter's) out of the equation as much as possible.

I do have to say, though, that my daughter (10 years old, and hunting with a firearm for the first time) is very excited to have an opportunity at her first deer, and dad's first wolf. She's also a good enough shot that I have complete confidence in her ability to back me up if needed. She kinda scares me, though, as she's pretty confident she wants at least a tase of any wolf we may be fortunate enough to take.

I'm not so sure.

Fremmer
October 2, 2012, 12:44 AM
Can you hang some meat a day or 2 before opening season? I watched a show where guys were trying to snare a wolf and they used strips of raw meat to try and lure them in. Of course the yotes could sneak in and snag 'em first though.

Feanor
October 2, 2012, 12:53 AM
I hope you get one as well as your office buddies. I used to hunt near International Falls but have stopped. Pretty sad when you see more wolves than deer. This wolf hunt is long overdue.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/volunteer/sepoct09/bounce_back.html

It seems that the data does not agree with your conclusion, Minnesota has the nations second largest white tail deer herd!(Wisconsin is number one)

Feanor
October 2, 2012, 12:55 AM
From the link,


Wolves Come Home.

Winters of deep snow weren't the only deer-killers in DelGiudice's study. Seven wolf packs lived within the study area and preyed on some of the radio-collared deer. When DelGiudice began the study in 1991, wolves had just recently returned to the area, after having been extirpated from the woods around Grand Rapids in the 1960s. DelGiudice's team trapped and radio-collared wolves to determine their pack territorial boundaries, so they could ascertain which packs were killing which deer.

The ensuing data toppled several myths about how wolves affect deer populations. One myth held that wolves hurt deer populations by engaging in surplus-killing (taking more prey than they can eat, a behavior documented among carnivores worldwide). During the severe winter of 1995-'96, DelGiudice indeed documented incidences of surplus-killing by wolves, with some wolves taking down four deer within spans of 100 yards. But as he examined the fat reserves on the deer carcasses -- and evaluated their nutritional fitness from urea nitrogen in urine samples -- DelGiudice found that most of the wolf-killed deer were seriously undernourished and about to die anyway. The wolves were just finishing off deer on their deathbeds. Relatively little surplus-killing by wolves was observed during the following winter of 1996-'97, and none during any of the other 13 winters.

"Surplus-killing by wolves of healthy deer rarely occurred in our study," DelGiudice says.

His study also clearly demonstrated that wolves do not depress the female segment of the white-tailed deer population that hunters harvest in fall. While wolves and hunters each accounted for 24 percent of collared female deer mortality over the entire study, the two mostly killed different types of does at different times. The average age of a doe killed by hunters was less than 5 years old, whereas the average age of does taken by wolves was 8 years old. Age-specific analyses of the study clearly showed that compared with wolf predation, hunting had the greatest impact on younger does. Hunter-kills occurred during the fall hunting season, while wolves tended to kill deer in winter -- when deer are naturally undernourished, struggle in deeper snow, and are easier prey for wolves and their pack hunting strategy.

"Hunters tended to kill young deer, while wolves served the role of culling the herd of older deer or those that were weaker," says DelGiudice. "Hunters and wolves help to keep deer close to the carrying capacity of their habitat. And by ensuring that only the fittest deer survive, wolves help the deer herd to be stronger over the long term."

In the presence of seven wolf packs, the deer numbers in the region of DelGiudice's study rebounded. Between 1997 and 2003, hunters quadrupled their harvest in that area. By 2003 the annual harvest greatly exceeded pre-crash levels of the mid-1990s.

"These study results will help inform the DNR [when] Minnesota assumes responsibility for wolf management," says DelGiudice. Wolves in the western Great Lakes region are currently listed as a federal endangered species, though wolf populations are recovered and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has been working to transfer management back to state jurisdictions. "[The study results] will also help Wisconsin and Michigan as they contemplate deer management in an expanding wolf range. And for any states considering the reintroduction of wolves, this study tells them how deer might respond."

mquail
October 2, 2012, 03:27 PM
Good luck and post pictures if you get one. I've seen one wolf in Grant County, SD which I suspect was a Minnesota wolf passing through.

Again, post pictures.

Brad

countertop
October 3, 2012, 02:05 AM
Not sure about Minnesota, but was talking with some folks I know from Idaho. They all have wolf tags in their pockets, but discouraged me from making a trip out of regular hunting season solely to shoot a wolf. Said many more needed to be taken, but that it was nearly impossible to hunt them and rather they were targets of opportunity. That is, if you went looking for them, their range is so great and they are so smart, you will never find them or even see them. But if your out hunting and the focus is on another quarry, then its quite possible you will see one or more also hunting that same animal (or others in the same area) and will be presented a good shot to take some out.

d2wing
October 3, 2012, 11:17 PM
Good luck. I think hunting them is like hunting a bear except fresh meat instead of the stinky stuff bears eat. A fawn bleat may work best as a call and will bring in does as well.
If you hunt from a stand shoot a deer leave the guts and hang some meat out of reach of coyotes. I don't know if this helps but I hope you get one.

caribou
October 4, 2012, 03:35 AM
I gotta tell ya, hanging meat produces no Wolves. they are simply too wily to go for anything out of the usual, and aviod people like the plauge. They rearly eat meats from something allready dead at this time of year (winter is different), or that they didnt kill themselfs, and withall the wounded Deer in the woods down there, The best "Bait" is limping around rather than allready dead.

Go sit down and put out your best cartoon Howel......"Owwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooo..........Oooowwwoooowwwwooowwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooo........ Really! and again 15 minutes or so later, and let them come to you. Thell think your one of them and go to join you , or think that your not of them and come to kill you , as Wolves do to other Wolves who come into thier territories.
Wolves usually have a 3 day loop, like Brown Bears and come around if theres no sucess the day before, keep at it.

We had Wolves around for three days where we were Caribou Hunting this last couple weeks, was awsome to watch them from 50 -200 yards, across the creek on a sand bars edge,on our side of the river , awaiting them to swin across and we had front row seats to watch the Mom, Pop and the three large pups ambushing 2 Caribou while we were there, getting fat, just like us :D


Howel 'em to you......Works for me.


They are a large part of my income, often.
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Fat_46
October 7, 2012, 04:19 AM
Caribou - you make me jealous! Thanks for your insight.

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