Show us your shoulder stocked cap and ball handguns

It would be nice to have a thread with photos of shoulder stocked cap and ball pistols and revolvers, to feed our minds and lead to thinning of our wallets. Don

Okey-dokey.:)
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Man Berk that is double EXTRA cool!
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd392/brushhippie/avatar3.jpg

That's one beautiful hank o' wood there Brushhippie.
It's jist screeeeamin to be checkered.;)

Looks like someone's been makin cedar firewood too.:)

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=120239&d=1272329189

I'm reposting higene's prototype shoulder stock for the ROA that he fashioned from a Crosman American Classic air pistol stock because it's innovative and only cost $25.

Shoulder stocks for Ruger Old Army?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=519502&highlight=ROA+Stock

I just did it because I could. I noticed that it looked like it would fit the ROA so I disassembled both guns and set up the Ruger. There was a space at the top that had to be dealt with (I believe I fabbed up a clothes pin to fill the gap). It shot O.K. If one were to go forward with it one would have to cut on the stock and make modifications.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=519502&highlight=ROA+Stock

If you were to put a conversion cylinder in one does that turn it into an NFA SBR?

Yes, that makes sense.

Short-barreled rifle (SBR) is a legal designation in the United States, referring to a shoulder-fired, rifled firearm with a barrel length of less than 16 inches (40.6 cm) or overall length of less than 26 inches (66.0 cm)....
...SBRs may be created by trimming down a larger rifle, by building a rifle with an original barrel shorter than 16 inches, or by adding a shoulder stock to a handgun which is fitted with a barrel shorter than 16 inches, thereby legally redefining it as a rifle rather than a handgun. Each of these processes must legally be accompanied by BATFE registration...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-barreled_rifle

However there may be exemptions for some of the pre-1899 antiques.

...Certain old handguns originally available with shoulder stocks, such as original broomhandle Mausers or Lugers, made before 1946, more likely to be valued as curios or relics than as weapons, have been removed from federal SBR restriction but may be restricted under local gun laws.[2] Certain "trapper model" rifles originally factory-made before 1934 with barrels under 16 inches have similarly been removed from federal SBR restriction (the BATFE publishes a Curios and Relics List of models and serial number ranges). While SBRs on the Curio & Relic List are not "firearms" regulated under the 1934 National Firearms Act, they are still "firearms" regulated by the 1968 Gun Control Act....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-barreled_rifle

Thanks Jim, that was a gift from east texas....just about the coolest gift I ever received and she is an awesome shooter. The Cedar shavings are from my plank making, I cant afford a sawmill so I use my chainsaw to cut cedar lumber.

Woodworkin and makin soot.

Caint git much better http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=170918&d=1346607120

Show us your shoulder stocked cap and ball handguns

OK

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/005.jpg

Normally, I don't post this photo until April 1st, but here you go.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/44Snubwithstock001.jpg

Berkley I love that Dragoon!!

Fingers, what is that Colt in the bottom of that pic? I don't think I have ever seen such sites on a colt of the BP ara..

Please tell us more.

It's a Pietta Schneider and Glassic Carbine made back in 1999. There have been a few pop up on GB in the last couple years. First time I saw one was back in the mid 80s

Hey Fingers....I know where you got that LOL!! Here's another one you might like to own. Don't know if you remember Tony from Australia, but we were trying to make this beast of of a Walker at one time.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Armi-San-Marco-1851-3rd-Model-Dragoon-18-Barrel-Shoulder-Stock.cfm?gun_id=100149977

Hey sltm1, Yeah I know you know. I remember Tony. I'd love to have the long barreled mdel; but I think Dr Davis is asking too much for it.

This is as close as I can get but I do have one that was made to accept a stock.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/Skinny1950/NewgunsApril92011001.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/Skinny1950/Colt1860ArmyAntique005crop.jpg

Fingers let me shoot the bottom rifle. Works much better than you would think.

It's nice to have friends with large cool collections.

You guys are disgusting, have you no shame??

I'm not working yet this winter and my fun tickets are restricted severely until I get back down to Texas. I started a defarb on a '60 Sherriff (Pietta) that will hopefully result in a stocked, engraved Texas Rangers or Wyoming Territorial Marshals do-it-yourself commorative (haven't decided on the engraving yet). So....

I might as well start picking some brains though, what kind of nightmare am I going to have finding and fitting a shoulder stock to a Pietta??

It may be tough to find one since EMF and Cabela's are out of stock. Dixie only has the Uberti 1860 shoulder stock, while Dixie and Cabela's only has the Pietta 1851 shoulder stock available.
Perhaps Traditions or another outfit has one in stock.
According to the customer feedback on the Dixie website for the Pietta 1851 shoulder stock, fitting doesn't seem to present any major issues.

I wonder how difficult it would be to make your own shoulder stock for one of these colts? Anyone ever done it 'round these parts?

The wood part is easy enough; the rest is a little more complicated.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2ai4cj.jpg

This gives me an idea! One could pattern a shoulder stock that would fit in place of the backstrap, yet utilize the triggerguard so as to not have to make brass fittings. (At least not as many I suppose since you will still need something to affix screws to.) Perhaps an old trigger guard and backstrap could be used to fabricate the connective area of the stock. Hmmmmmm..... that would be sweet on a walker :neener:

Tom,

last week on another thread I suggested permenantly attaching a shoulder stock to a spare back strap, either to the actual back or by a plate to the butt portion.

Been looking for a Pietta backstrap for a Confederate Nothing .44 with those in mind .....like I ever complete a project.

-kBob

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/Jeepnik/GUNS/HANDGUNS12-31-07-0004.jpg

Normally, I don't post this photo until April 1st, but here you go.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/44Snubwithstock001.jpg
I like those grips. Who makes them? And what's so funny about stocking a snubby 1860? Mine's more fun than should be legal. Not to mention, it always gets attention on the range. Kills jack rabbits just fine, too.

I like those grips. Who makes them? And what's so funny about stocking a snubby 1860? Mine's more fun than should be legal. Not to mention, it always gets attention on the range. Kills jack rabbits just fine, too.
jeepnik,

Those grips are American ivory, smooth elk antler, and I made them for several of my revolvers. Simple enough to do if you are aware that one piece grips can be made in three pieces.

When I post that photo, the caption is usually something like "early assault weapon" and get a lot of comments about adding candles for "early laser sights" and etc. I have never fired it with a stock attached and only borrowed the stock for that photo. The time s I have fired a stocked revolver, the stock affected the way the revolver recoiled and caused bullets to impact other than where the sights were aligned. I was more accurate with the stocks removed. Also, I was not comfortable with the cap going off that close to my eyes.

Stock effected the recoil and made it inaccurate? Never heard that one....dont know how it could do that.... mine is a match striker either way, but more so with the stock. It gives you a much better control.

Stock effected the recoil and made it inaccurate? Never heard that one....dont know how it could do that.... mine is a match striker either way, but more so with the stock. It gives you a much better control.



I was not comfortable with the cap going off that close to my eyes.

Maybe he was flinchin and not realizin it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who ever got the hairbrained idea to stock a short barreled gun. I do have to agree that having that thing so close to my kisser when the cap goes off does give me a little cause for concern.

Hopefully one of these days I will be able to locate a stock for a Pietta 1860 and complete the project though. On the other hand if finding a stock proves unreasonable I happen to have a Uberti Officers Model 1860 which could be stripped, defarbed and engraved to match the Sherriff Model I'm currently playing with, a matched set would be kind of cool. All I have to do is find the time, inclination and fun chips to complete the project.

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In regards to the two comments about having the caps go off so close to your face: It might look goofy to some, but wearing a bandana 'bandit style' over the lower half of your face, along with eye protection of course, adds somewhat of a layer against sparks and any blowback. It's not perfect, but it's something, and fits the feel of Cowboy Action Shooting dress.

I did not say the stock caused it to become inaccurate, it just altered the point of impact from what I was used to with the revolver unstocked. Besides, my 1860s are handguns. When I need to shoot at long ranges, I will grab a rifle. Out to about 75 or 100 yards, the handguns do fine.

If the bullets hit someplace other than where the sites are aligned.....that would be considered inaccurate (or not sighted in properly). Anyway, whatever, I enjoy shooting mine and MINE is very accurate and I have hit targets at 90 plus! I would strongly recommend one to those without! ...oh and bonus they are easier to load with the stock on!

If the bullets hit someplace other than where the sites are aligned.....that would be considered inaccurate (or not sighted in properly) ...


Difference of opinion. For me accuracy is determined by the group size. If a firearm produces good groups, it is accurate. Once grouping is established, I adjust the sights to move the group to where I want it to hit. On an 1860, it is not worth it for me to adjust the sights to deal with a stock, and then readjust when I remove the stock. I have revolvers and I have rifles, there is some overlap but not a lot.

I am happy that the addition of the stock does not require you to resight the revolver, on mine it did.

I ordered up an 1860 Army w/ full length fluted cylinder in early July from Cabelas. The description for the gun stated that it was outfitted with all the needed cuts and notches to acommodate the shoulder stock. Well, the backorder just got re-submitted so I'm just waiting.
In the mean time I got a .44 1860 London model to cure my open-top itch until the '60 Army arrives.
Will the shoulder stock meant for the 'Army grip frame be expected to mate up to the '51 profile grip frame of the London?
I figure that it would take a custom hook bolt to cinch up to the shorter '51 style grip, I'm just wondering if the upper lines of that grip-backstrap will work OK with that '60 style shoulderstock.
The rest of the relief cuts at the recoil shield is present. Can I expect to get away with this mis-mate or not? I've found a '60 shoulder stock, and will get that Army revolver sooner or later, but it would be fun to be able to use that pricey shoulder stock with my existing gun in the mean time even if I do have to make a special retaining hook bolt to tighten into the gripframe notch.