[Cluster Bomb]

Hey everyone. I just put a SKS 7.62x38 on layaway with serial # beginning with D all original serials on everything, original stock and bayonet, grenade launcher sight and front. It is quite heavy but The wife likes it. for $299 i taught it was a good deal. still had some cosmo on it.

It is my understanding that the D "series" takes AK47 magazines, can anyone 100% confirm this for me?

I would like to keep this 100% original. I hate those Tatic-notcool sks and aks. are there any good mods I can do to it that wont make it tactic-notcool.

They had another Chinese model with scope, shorter barrel, no bayonet and was lighter. also had a sling. that was $270....but wife likes the bayonet.

anyways....thanks in advanced.

[onebadcaballero]

I've got a 59/66 A2 yugo (blade bayonet, grenade launcher, night sights). First thing I noticed when I was shooting at longer ranges was the front sight was kind of big and it was shooting left.

I would recommend buying an ak/sks front sights adjustment tool and a kns front sights post. I used the .052" ball which in conjunction with the two rear dot night sights is awesome. For the standard rear blade on most sks's though I would go with .052" blade sight.

Next order of business would be swapping out the free floating firing pin for a Murray's stainless steel spring loaded firing pin (reduces chance of slam fire and popped primers).

If your rifle has the provisions canvas slings are pretty handy and cheap.

Finally If your stock has any play that can hurt your accuracy so I would glass bed the stock (receiver back) if it has any wiggle and free float the barrel.

Don't swap in a reduced power spring kit for an easier trigger pull. You'll get alot of weak primer strikes.

[savage1r]

http://www.tech-sights.com/sks.htm or these (http://www.mojosights.com/). And this (http://i.imgur.com/F5jcE.jpg) seems to be the least tacti-sigh-notcool setup.

[gojuice101]

I believe you are correct about the D series taking AK mags. I don't have one-I have a M59/66-but I remember reading about the differences in the models and how the D series used the standard AK mags. However, I thought the D models were Chinese, not Yugoslavian?

One of the first mods I did to mine was to modify the bolt so I can load the magazine with the bolt closed, because that setup annoyed me. I imagine the D models are different with this as well since they use a different magazine. I definitely agree with the idea about the firing pin spring-these are notorious for slamfires.

Personally, I've never found a reason to modify the trigger. The standard trigger is not bad, in my opinion, so I haven't even concerned myself with that.

Enjoy the SKS. It is a blast to shoot.

[Swampman]

I believe that the "D" prefix on your serial number denotes its year of production, 1966.
The Norinco (North China Industries) model "D" is the one that was redesigned to take AK mags.
To my knowledge, no Yugoslavian SKSs were ever manufactured to take detachable magazines, although they will take the duckbill aftermarket type. Be advised however that putting a detachable magazine on an SKS may violate Federal law unless enough of the original imported parts are changed out for US made parts. I can't recall all the details, but a quick web search of "922r SKS compliance" should get you up to speed.

[stubbicatt]

I understand that one of the remedies for the concern for a slamfire is a spring loaded firing pin.

You do know that as the Soviets worked with these rifles, the first several years had variations of a spring loaded firing pin? They found that the firing pin channel would gather detritus and they would get slamfires, so they went to the floating firing pin?

Just go to Harbor Freight and buy a pin punch set and punch the retaining pin out of the bolt and clean the firing pin and the firing pin channel occasionally. A Qtip will work its way down in there and remove anything that causes sticking.

[meanmrmustard]

Hey everyone. I just put a SKS 7.62x39 on layaway with serial # beginning with D all original serials on everything, original stock and bayonet, grenade launcher sight and front. It is quite heavy but The wife likes it. for $299 i taught it was a good deal. still had some cosmo on it.

It is my understanding that the D "series" takes AK47 magazines, can anyone 100% confirm this for me?

I would like to keep this 100% original. I hate those Tatic-notcool sks and aks. are there any good mods I can do to it that wont make it tactic-notcool.

They had another Chinese model with scope, shorter barrel, no bayonet and was lighter. also had a sling. that was $270....but wife likes the bayonet.

anyways....thanks in advanced.

7.62x39. Fixed it for ya.:)

[carbine85]

There isn't a model D in the Yugo. If the D is in the serial number that's the date code. The Yugo's never accepted detachable AK mags.
Ther are Chinese commercial variants in a Model M & D that accepted AK mags.
$299 is a decent price in this market. Your rifle is most likely a refurb and some of the parts could be forced matched by electro penciling.
You can easily remove the bayonet to lighten the rifle. I think it improves accuracy when you do, others my not think so,

[Cluster Bomb]

Thanks guys. Last nite i was Goggling on my phone cause i couldn't sleep and pieced together some information on the Yugo SKS and D serial. For some reason I couldn't post ><

So the D on the serial means 1966? and that's before they made the barrels in Yugo's corrosion resistant?

There are i think 2 electro pencilings. I didn't disassemble it to look more. Is Electro penciling good or bad for the value? I know there is no real value in an sks.


I don't think that the wife really cares if it takes a 30r mag or not.

ty for the help and info.

[TheLostOtter]

Thanks guys. Last nite i was Goggling on my phone cause i couldn't sleep and pieced together some information on the Yugo SKS and D serial. For some reason I couldn't post ><

So the D on the serial means 1966? and that's before they made the barrels in Yugo's corrosion resistant?

There are i think 2 electro pencilings. I didn't disassemble it to look more. Is Electro penciling good or bad for the value? I know there is no real value in an sks.


I don't think that the wife really cares if it takes a 30r mag or not.

ty for the help and info.
Yugos never had chrome lined barrels.

[Swampman]

Quote: "before they made the barrels in Yugo's corrosion resistant?"
I'm fairly certain that NO Yugo SKS barrels were ever Chrome plated or fabricated from stainless steel, the only "corrosion resistance" in a Yugo barrel is YOU and timely, proper cleaning, particularly if you've been shooting corrosive ammo.

[carbine85]

Without checking my charts the D for 1966 sounds correct.
Yugos never had chrome lining. This isn't a problem at all if you get a good bore in the first place. Non chrome barrels in general terms are typically a little more accurate than chrome lines.
A collector would typically want original stamped numbers vs electro-pencil. A good clean, nicely finished Yugo is worth more than a beater.
I wouldn't bother with the 30 round mags. I have 2-3 20's and 1-2 30's that I don't even bother with. I should probably just sell them.

[Swampman]

If you feel that you absolutely MUST have detachable magazines, get the Tapco 20 round version, they seem to have the best track record for working "right out of the box" without a lot of tweaking.

I agree with carbine85, the stock, non detachable magazine gives the best reliability and feel to the rifle, they are also far and away more reliable and easy to use with strippers clips.

[Cee Zee]

Actually the best track record for a detachable mag would belong to "USA" brand mags. They are dead reliable. BUT they almost certainly will NOT work on a Yugo. You should get the Norinco if you still can. It will take detachable mags if that's what you want and you won't have the extra weight. And you can add your own bayonet for about $10. It's not exactly legal but neither is modifying a Yugo without using 10 US made parts (from a specific list of parts that can be changed) on the rifle. The laws are detailed and confusing. But no one is getting arrested for changing their SKS around "yet".

Yugos are good rifles. But the Chinese rifles have some advantages like being lighter and you can add detachable mags if you feel like it. The Yugos have a piece that has to be modified before you can use detachable mags. And it's hard to find the info on how to do it. Most people will tell you it isn't even possible but it is. It just isn't easy. It is very easy with the Norincos. You can change over in less than 10 minutes.

[gojuice101]

The Yugos have a piece that has to be modified before you can use detachable mags.

Are you referring specifically to the "USA" mags? Other magazines don't require any modifications. I pulled my yugo out of the box and changed to a detachable mag without doing anything to it. I don't know about the other brand, as I only use Tapco. I haven't had a single failure from a Tapco, but I've heard bad experiences with the other mags.

[savage1r]

There's a tapco sitting in my yugo right now, the steel 30 rounder fits fine too. Have no idea what cee zee is talking about.

[Swampman]

Cee Zee,
Not sure if you read the post title but it's "Yugo Sks and options", in addition the OP stated in his first post that he's already put a Yugo SKS on layaway. Suggesting a magazine that, by your own admission, "will NOT work in a Yugo" doesn't seem particularly helpful.

Also, why do you claim that the USA mags have a better track record than the Tapcos? I've used a few of the USA products and found the quality about on a par with old Promag stuff. At least Promag has halfway decent customer service. USA went bankrupt, I'm not an MBA, but that doesn't sound like a very good track record to me.
I'd also very much like it if you could tell us what the mysterious part is on the Yugo SKSs that has to be modified to use detachable magazines. Aside from using a rasp to remove a little wood in the mag well, I didn't have to do anything to mine.

I'm guessing here, but from the ads I've seen, probably more 59-66s have been imported in the last five years than all other SKS variants combined, I would think that any company that was trying to sell detachable magazines would probably include instructions on what and how to modify a 59-66 to use their product if such a mod were needed, that would probably take care of your "And it's hard to find the info on how to do it. Most people will tell you it isn't even possible but it is." statement.

I'm glad that you like your Chinese SKS, I had one of them, they are lighter than a 59-66 and they have a chromed bore, that's the sum total of their advantages (and the chromed bore may not really be much of an advantage). The Yugo has milled rather than stamped parts and a threaded barrel rather than having it pinned in like most (all?) Chinese commercial SKSs. My Yugos are also considerably more accurate than my Norinco ever was, although I admit that I have seen a couple of Chinese SKSs that were every bit as accurate. I think accuracy with the Chinese models is kind of "hit or miss", whereas most Yugos with decent bores and a tight stock shoot reasonably well.

And last but not least, the Yugos just "feel" better and more solid to me, plus the Yugoslavians didn't make their stocks out of old Orange crates!

[Cluster Bomb]

@ Swampman. This is why I'm getting a Yugo as IMHO Its more acurate and I like its heaft.

I don't think I will very adding a magazine as I have read that if I do pop in an after market mag I need to remove and add 3-4 American parts. To be leagle.

I might add a scope base and 2x4 scope or a night vision scope for coyotes.

Also a sling and spring/hammer as noted in first posters.

But Is there other options?

[savage1r]

You can save money by getting a high powered green laser sight and a camcorder with night vision settings. Zero the laser sight then turn on the NV. Wherever you see the dot goes boom.

[Swampman]

@ Cluster Bomb

I pretty much agree with most of
onebadcaballero's recommendations, however I'm unfamiliar with the KNS sight post and I never really had a problem with the stock front sight, so I've left mine alone. Also depending on how you use your rifle, you might not need the Murrey's kit. I don't use soft primered American made ammunition and my handloads use either CCI #34 mil spec primers or Russian made KV24N, 7.62x39 Berdan primers. I also make sure that the firing pin and channel are kept completely free of oil, grease and dirt. When you hold the bolt in your hand and turn it end over end, you should be able to see and hear the firing pin moving freely in the channel. With practice, you can do this even with the rifle assembled, just make sure it's unloaded and the hammer is cocked.
For your initial cleaning to remove the cosmoline you'll probably need to disassemble the bolt as stubbicatt suggested, but unless mine get dropped in the mud or otherwise totally trashed, spraying the pin and channel with B12 Chemtool followed by blowing out with compressed air seems to work fine.

If you should happen to change your mind and use the high capacity detachable mags, you really need to read up on 922r, it's not near as simple as adding 3 or 4 American made parts and while the ATF isn't busting down doors looking for 922r violations, if you ever show up on their radar in a negative way, being in possession of an illegal rifle WILL be used against you in one way or another.

This is a pretty good site to go to for basic 922r info.

http://www.tapco.com/section922r/

I quit using the detachable magazines pretty soon after I got 'em, they're a god-awful shape if you're trying to carry extras and the rifle is plenty heavy enough with the stock magazine and 10 rounds. Get ahold of a few of the 10 round stripper clips, they're light and a convenient way to carry extra rounds. They also load like greased lightning into the stock magazine and unlike M-16 strippers, they'll last forever if you're even halfway careful with them. Unfortunately, I never found a detachable magazine that they worked worth a darn in.

I'm not very well versed in the latest and greatest as far as scope mounts go, but I've been very happy with the Choate drill and tap mount I got several years back. It's kind of heavy, but its the only mount that I'm personally aware of that I would even THINK about trying to mount a heavy nv scope on.

The biggest disadvantage of this mount to me aside from having to modify the rifle, is that it prevents the use of stripper clips. There are "Scout" type mounts available that you can use with a medium or long eye relief scope. These mounts leave the top of the receiver clear, but I don't think they'd work at all with a nv scope.
If properly mounted, the Choate mount allows you to remove the top cover and bolt fairly easily, I mounted mine a little lower than the instructions recommended so getting the bolt in and out is kind of a pain, but still doable. I figure it's a decent trade off since it put the scope about as low as it could be while still retaining the ability to use the iron and night sights.

Whatever you do, steer clear of the scope mounts that replace the receiver cover, a buddy of mine purchased one and it worked every bit as well as you'd expect of an easily removable part that gets battered by the fast moving bolt every time you shoot the rifle. NOT a good thing to mount a precision optical instrument on!

I'd also suggest that you not equip your rifle with a recoil buffer, if they were needed or desirable, Mr. Simonov or the Yugoslavian engineers that redesigned the rifle would have put one in it.

Fun fact: The grenade launcher on the 59-66 is actually designed to work with NATO spec 22 mm grenades!
No wonder Uncle Joe never really trusted Tito...

[Swampman]

@ savage1r
Have you ever used that rig on hogs? If so, does the laser dot moving around spook 'em?
Does the light from the laser tend to "wash out" the camera image when it reflects back?
Is there any particular reason that you're aware of that a red laser wouldn't work?
I can see mine with unaided, Mark 1 eyeballs out to over 100 yards on a dark night, I'd think that with the wife's old Sony Nightshot camera it could be seen much further than that.

@Cluster Bomb
Sorry for the...172857

[Cee Zee]

What I know is I've seen lots of people say that Yugos don't work or maybe it was they don't work well with detachable mags. As for Tapcos vs USA brand mags I'm not talking about just any "Made In The USA" mag. I'm talking about a specific brand of mags that was pretty much the only mag you could get for the SKS back in the 1990's when they were flying out the doors of the local gun shops. I had probably 10 of those mags at one time. I've never seen one fail to feed under any conditions. Never. I kept 5 of them. I've been using them in my Norinco since 1992 and I've never had a single malfuction with any of them through thousands and thousands of rounds. I understand that Tapcos are good but I understand also that they aren't that good compared to a USA brand mag.

As for my reading of the OP's post I was suggesting the "if" he could change his choice to the Norinco that he would be better off doing so. They are better rifles and yes, I have both. All that extra weight is a real drawback IMO and the Norincos are known to work better with detachable mags "if" he wanted to go that route. But since his wife doesn't care about the 30 round mags maybe it isn't important to him at all. It was a suggestion. Not a demand. Maybe you should try reading what I post Swampman before you go accusing me of ignoring what the Op said. It didn't seem to bother you to ignore what I said. He seemed to like a lot of things about the Norinco (lighter, etc.) but chose the Norinco because of the bayonet. I just pointed out there are bayonets available for the Norincos if he could work it out to get one instead of the Yugo. And I don't believe I have to explain myself to you. You worry about what you post.

[Swampman]

What I know is I've seen lots of people say that Yugos don't work or maybe it was they don't work well with detachable mags. As for Tapcos vs USA brand mags I'm not talking about just any "Made In The USA" mag. I'm talking about a specific brand of mags that was pretty much the only mag you could get for the SKS back in the 1990's when they were flying out the doors of the local gun shops. I had probably 10 of those mags at one time. I've never seen one fail to feed under any conditions. Never. I kept 5 of them. I've been using them in my Norinco since 1992 and I've never had a single malfuction with any of them through thousands and thousands of rounds. I understand that Tapcos are good but I understand also that they aren't that good compared to a USA brand mag.

As for my reading of the OP's post I was suggesting the "if" he could change his choice to the Norinco that he would be better off doing so. They are better rifles and yes, I have both. All that extra weight is a real drawback IMO and the Norincos are known to work better with detachable mags "if" he wanted to go that route. But since his wife doesn't care about the 30 round mags maybe it isn't important to him at all. It was a suggestion. Not a demand. Maybe you should try reading what I post Swampman before you go accusing me of ignoring what the Op said. It didn't seem to bother you to ignore what I said. He seemed to like a lot of things about the Norinco (lighter, etc.) but chose the Norinco because of the bayonet. I just pointed out there are bayonets available for the Norincos if he could work it out to get one instead of the Yugo. And I don't believe I have to explain myself to you. You worry about what you post.


Quote:
"He seemed to like a lot of things about the Norinco (lighter, etc.) but chose the Norinco because of the bayonet".:confused:
I'm not worried, I just have a hard time understanding some of the things you post.

Quote:
"I was suggesting the "if" he could change his choice to the Norinco that he would be better off doing so. They are better rifles and yes, I have both."

OK, let me get this straight. So you actually own a Yugo 59-66 and you have 5 detachable magazines, but instead of actually taking the gun out and shooting it, or picking up one of your five detachable magazines and actually trying to put it in your Yugo SKS, what you rely on to form your opinion is:

Quote:
"What I know is I've seen lots of people say that Yugos don't work or maybe it was they don't work well with detachable mags."

Very authoritative!

By the way, I'm actually pretty familiar with USA Brand magazines, when I said that USA went bankrupt I was actually referring to the company, not a generic made in the USA magazine going bankrupt.

The USA SKS mags were among the better mags available once upon a time, but I recall having to spend a good bit of time deburring and tweaking them to make them fit and function correctly.

What I said to the OP was:

Quote:
"If you feel that you absolutely MUST have detachable magazines, get the Tapco 20 round version, they seem to have the best track record for working "right out of the box" without a lot of tweaking."

I stand by that statement and believe it to be the truth.

This is "The High Road" so I'm not going to cast doubts upon any of your statements.

[savage1r]

I only suggest a high power green laser because I have one and you can see it a loooong way off at night. It doesn't wash out, but illuminates the target, making it easier to see in the camera. A low or high power red laser should show up fine on the IR setting of the camera though. Be very sure to set the focus on the camera to infinity (or as far away as possible) because autofocus is horrendous at night and you don't want to line up the perfect shot and suddenly everything is blurry. I don't hunt, but I don't know what spectrum of colors hogs are able to see. I know some dogs can see green and red lasers fine, other breeds can't see them at all so your guess is as good as mine.

[Storm]

The Yugo has milled rather than stamped parts and a threaded barrel rather than having it pinned in like most (all?) Chinese commercial SKSs.

Just as an FYI, "most" SKS would be correct as early Chinese SKS had threaded barrels and milled parts, most obviously the trigger guard. Then again, possibly that was military only. I do know that the switch to pinned and stamped was definitely with the commercial. No matter, it is possible to acquire a threaded and milled Norinco as I had one, my 1959.

As to layaways, with many shops it is possible to swap a layaway, so recommending a Norinco over the Yugo is a viable choice/recommendation depending on shop policy. Around these parts I don't know of any shops that don't allow layaway swaps.

Having owned a number of SKS I also have a preference for the Norinco (especially the 1959 that I recently foolishly sold) over the Yugo. The Yugo without the grenade launch front end might be a different matter as I suspect that the balance and weight of the rifle is more like a Norinco, Russian, or my 1958 Romanian.

[Cee Zee]

This is "The High Road" so I'm not going to cast doubts upon any of your statements.

LOL that's the only thing you have done. I didn't try to change the Yugo because I didn't want it to take detachables even if they did work. And I know what I've heard. You don't know what I've heard. And I've seen hundreds of USA brand mags and never once did I see one that needed work before it would function.

You seem to be an expert on all of this but you are clearly wrong about a lot of things. But I wouldn't cast doubt on any of the things you say. You do a fine job of that yourself. And BTW I make my living with words. Maybe the problem is that you can't read.

Mostly you're just a troll though. So goodbye troll. I feel sorry for anyone that takes advice from you.

[Cluster Bomb]

Can anyone tell me why this norinco is $400?

http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/classifieds/ad_detail/4082786?_next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclehenrys.com%2Finit%2Fclassifieds%2Fby_seller%2F347995%234082786

[TheLostOtter]

Can anyone tell me why this norinco is $400?

http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/classifieds/ad_detail/4082786?_next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclehenrys.com%2Finit%2Fclassifieds%2Fby_seller%2F347995%234082786
That's a Yugo

[Cee Zee]

It appears it is a Sino-Soviet model Norinco which is what the stuff about it having the Russian "brand" is about. The early Chinese (Norinco) models were made under supervision of the Russians and are considered to be better quality because they had the trained Russians there instead of the peasant Chinese they used in the factories being there alone. That and the model in question is more rare (and rare costs more) and the one on that page appears to be in good shape. Add that to the fact that prices vary around the country and you end up with a $400 Norinco. Even the Type 56 Norincos are $300-$350 in a lot of places and those are heavily used rifles (used by Americans after being taken out of their storage crates a long time ago). I haven't been able to find a Norinco fresh out of the crate for a very long time in fact. I did find a Yugo still packed in cosmoline for $250 about 18 months ago. I bought one of those. But those are long gone too. That $400 price is probably pretty fair although I'd have to check harder to know that for sure. Back in early 2009 that rifle would likely have brought $600 or more.

[Swampman]

@ Cee Zee,

"Troll?"

Really?

"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”
----- Elbert Hubbard


Tell you what, if you can just give a sensible and coherent answer to the question that I asked you after your first post, I'll acknowledge that your knowledge of SKSs far surpasses my own. I will also apologize for all my "trolling".

"Yugos are good rifles. But the Chinese rifles have some advantages like being lighter and you can add detachable mags if you feel like it. The Yugos have a piece that has to be modified before you can use detachable mags. And it's hard to find the info on how to do it. Most people will tell you it isn't even possible but it is. It just isn't easy. It is very easy with the Norincos. You can change over in less than 10 minutes."

WHAT IS THE MYSTERIOUS PART ON A YUGO SKS THAT HAS TO BE MODIFIED BEFORE YOU CAN USE DETACHABLE MAGAZINES?

While you're at it, please give us detailed step by step instructions on exactly how this arcane process is performed.

Respectfully Yours,
Swampman

[savage1r]

To get mags to fit in a yugo, you have to take just a little bit of wood off the sides of the mag well, but then you need to switch out parts to be 922r compliant. Otherwise, you get a new stock and compliance parts.

[Swampman]

@ savage1r
I don't really need any help, there's nothing to it. In fact I've done it before. I just wanted CeeZee to enlighten us on the mysterious part that has to be modified (that almost no one knows about).

Maybe he can do that after he explains all about the "Sino-Soviet model Norinco" that Cluster Bomb posted a link to. (the one that was correctly ID'd as a Yugo by TheLostOtter) It's the super secret one that almost no one knows anything about. You know,the one that has a NATO spec 22mm grenade launcher and looks just like a Yugo 59-66!

He can also no doubt explain how the Soviet technicians (who actually DID help set up Chinese SKS production in the 50s) were able to work with the peasants from Norinco through some sort of time warp, since Norinco wasn't even established until 1980!

Your turn master CeeZee...
Fondly,
The Ignorant Troll

@TheLostOtter, You had best watch out saying anything to contradict Master CeeZee, he makes his living with words and he might declare you an ignorant outlaw Troll too.

[savage1r]

Ah, he Gecko45'd you, got it.

[mookiie]

It's not exactly legal but neither is modifying a Yugo without using 10 US made parts (from a specific list of parts that can be changed) on the rifle. The laws are detailed and confusing.

The above is False you do not have to have 10 US made parts you just need to have less than 10 compliance parts (Stocks, Triggers, Sear, Disconnector,gas piston, muzzle device, magizine and follower etc, etc) that are foreign made.

[Swampman]

I believe that mookiie is 100% correct here. If the law specified that the weapon had to have 10 US made parts and you used a US made magazine with 3 compliance parts (magazine body, follower and floorplate), to help you meet the total, the instant you removed the magazine, you'd be in violation of federal law since your weapon would now contain only 7 US made parts.

Good catch mook!
It's been almost six years since I modded a weapon to meet 922r, I didn't catch that until you pointed it out.

WHERE ARE YOU MASTER CEEZEE? ANOTHER TROLL HAS REARED THEIR UGLY HEAD BY DOUBTING YOUR SACRED AND (supposed to be) UNCHALLENGED KNOWLEDGE!

COME QUICKLY AND SMITE HIM SORE WITH YOUR MIGHTY (professional) WORDS!

[VVelox]

In regards to scopes, they need to be mounted to the receiver and not the receiver cover. For that, I would suggest using a rail like below.

http://kalinkaoptics.com/firearm-accessories/side-rails/sks-mosin-nagant-other-rifle-double-connection-universal-side-mounting-rail-for-ak-sks-svd-side-mounts.html

http://kalinkaoptics.com/firearm-accessories/side-rails/molot-sks-original-rail-with-rivets.html

[mf-dif]

The yugo will increase in value faster than a Norinco. I have a Chinese and its build and accuracy are pretty good. I shoot mostly off hand, and after 10rds holding that beast up my arm likes the rest of reloading. :lol:

[mljdeckard]

Tech-Sights.

[Swampman]

mljdeckard,
The increased sight radius and the fact that they're peep sights is intriguing to me. I just can't really figure out from their pictures and descriptions exactly how they mount. I've never even handled one of the sights before, let alone seen one mounted on a rifle.
The description on their website says that no drilling or tapping is required. It appears from the photos that the sight is held in place by the pin that holds the receiver cover on and then stabilized by a couple of screws that go from the rear of the sight and push against the back of the receiver. Is that correct?
Does the sight stay put and hold zero well?
Does it return to zero after the receiver cover has been removed for cleaning?

I ask because there seems to be a serious problem with the stock sights on my Yugos. They seem to be getting more blurry the older they get! I've never heard of Steel getting blurry with age, but I'm pretty sure that's what's happening.

Either that, or my wife is right and I need to get glasses...:cuss:

So, can anyone explain to my wife why the Yugo sights were made from such poor quality, "blurry" steel?

[David Sinko]

I recently grabbed a Yugo that is in practically new condition. I never had any interest in these, but I already handload 7.62x39 and the price was all of $150. How do you pass that up? Unlike my AKMs which can be a bit particular in terms of accuracy with certain types of ammo, my Yugo shoots everything I have tried in it to minute of man accuracy at 100 yards without having to readjust the sights. It feeds FMJ, hollowpoints, softpoints with exposed lead and even the 110 gr. RN meant for the .30 Carbine. Even the .308" bullets I have tried produce very good accuracy, always to the sights at 100 yards. It's a bit on the heavy side and the trigger requires a bit of acclimation, but otherwise it's one of the most nicely made and useful rifles I have ever bought. I had considered removing some of the gadgets hanging on the front end and maybe changing the stock to lighten it up a bit, but I'll probably just refinish the original stock and keep everything else original.

Dave Sinko

[rugerdude]

Here's what I did with mine, inspired by the M14:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/rugerdude/DSCF4308.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/rugerdude/DSCF4307.jpg

If you would like to know the particulars of this rifle, I can link you to the thread I made about it.

The tech sights are great. They mount by replacing the take down pin at the rear of the receiver. They also use 4 set screws that are tightened against the REAR of the receiver to provide the needed tension to mount securely. It is a pain to take them off, but the quality of the sights makes it well worth it.

You will have to cut your original takedown pin in order to remove it from the rifle IIRC.

Playing the parts game is really lame and confusing but like others have said it's unlikely that the ATF will bust down your door for it. I believe that the spirit of the law was really only meant to be applied to importers. That said, it is only my OPINION and regardless of it as the law stands not playing the 922r game is ILLEGAL.

[VVelox]

rugerdude, what magazine is that? I don't recognize it as one of the standard duck bill ones.

[happygeek]

http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/classifieds/ad_detail/4082786?_next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclehenrys.com%2Finit%2Fclassifieds%2Fby_seller%2F347995%234082786


Maybe he can do that after he explains all about the "Sino-Soviet model Norinco" that Cluster Bomb posted a link to. (the one that was correctly ID'd as a Yugo by TheLostOtter) It's the super secret one that almost no one knows anything about. You know,the one that has a NATO spec 22mm grenade launcher and looks just like a Yugo 59-66!


$400 is horribly overpriced for a Yugo 59/66 as well. I got one from Classic Arms in mint condition soaked in cosmoline for $300 about 6 months ago.

[Zoogster]

Swampman said: If the law specified that the weapon had to have 10 US made parts and you used a US made magazine with 3 compliance parts (magazine body, follower and floorplate), to help you meet the total, the instant you removed the magazine, you'd be in violation of federal law since your weapon would now contain only 7 US made parts.

No that is not how it works. The actual rule is no more than 10 of certain foreign counted parts. Not a minimum number of US parts.
Since some rifles have more or less of the parts which are counted the actual number of parts that need to be swapped out depends on the specific firearm.
Removing US parts on a compliant firearm has no impact on the parts count until replaced with foreign parts. So if you removed the US magazine and put a foreign one in then you would be non compliant if the US magazine had just barely brought you into compliance. Using someone else's foriegn magazine at the range for example (many of the best magazines for certain firearm types can be foreign surplus so relying on the 3 parts of a magazine can be a limitation).But simply removing it would have no impact.

[rugerdude]

The magazine was made by someone named John Mason. It's a 10 rounder and is really only good for looks. No bolt hold-open, not compatible with stripper clips, and you have to hold the bolt back in order to remove it.

[Swampman]

Zoogster,
I'm fairly sure that what you just said is pretty much the same as what I said...

happygeek,
I think I paid 89 bucks each for mine back in 2005.
There were a few electropenciled parts, but the barrels looked brand new and the Tritium in the sights was still bright enough to be usable.