Imr 4198


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Sniper66
September 29, 2012, 07:46 AM
I'm going to an auction that has a substantial quantity of IMR 4198 for sale...several 8-lb containers. I am fairly new to reloading and have only used Benchmark, Varget, and H110, but see in my manuals that 4198 is used in a number of loads. What do you guys out there use it for and what does it typically sell for?...I'm guessing somewhere above $20 per lb. I'm also assuming it is a good powder, but want some guidance before I buy a large quantity. What do you say? I would use it mostly for .223 and p-dogs if that helps you answer my question.

Tom

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powell&hyde
September 29, 2012, 08:16 AM
Imr 4198 is a good all around fast burning powder for rifles. I use it on my .223 as well as Varget. Around here I'm paying $26.99lb.

kingcheese
September 29, 2012, 08:26 AM
I just paid 30 for a pound two days ago

steve4102
September 29, 2012, 08:35 AM
It's on the fast side for the 223. Some have trouble getting it to properly cycle their AR actions.

FROGO207
September 29, 2012, 08:54 AM
In the .223 it is used with the lighter bullets from 40 to 60 grains. I also use BLC-2, Reloader 10X, and X-terminator with good results in the 223. If you are going to reload 55 grain bullets by the boat load then get some. As of late I have been using WC 844 that is available from Pats Reloading for around $11 a pound. Yes there is a Haz-Mat fee but when I buy 24 pounds and 10K primers in one box the price becomes really reasonable IMHO. The WC 844 is the almost same as H335 for all practical purposes. Also the WC 846 is like BLC-2 and will work in the 223/308 and a host of other calibers.I would draw the line at $15 a pound for larger quantities if I were bidding and be more apt to bid at $10 tops. Good luck whatever you do.:D

FYI Powder Valley has IMR4198 for 19.95 a pound today not counting a Haz Mat fee.

joecil
September 29, 2012, 09:03 AM
I paid $24 for 1 pound recently. I will be using it with a 405 gr cast bullet in a 45-70. I also use IMR 3031 and Reloader 7 depending on the game I hunting.

7.62 Nato
September 29, 2012, 09:04 AM
Hi-techammo.com has the WC844, and WC846 military pull down powders listed for about $10-11 a pound for 8lb. containers. I'll probably be ordering some this weekend for 5.56x45, 6x45, .243, and (of course) 7.62 Nato. ;)

Ditchtiger
September 29, 2012, 09:45 AM
It see's a lot of use in my .222 Remington, works with my 444 marlin and jacketed bullets also.
Back in the 50's the .222 - IMR4198 combination was king of the bench rest hill.

243winxb
September 29, 2012, 11:17 AM
I used IMR 4198 (Dupont) for years in the 223, still do. Does not go thru a measure well. Expect as much as .4 gr variation. If theres lube in the case neck, powder may bridge from some measures. There was a post on this forum, where it did not work well in 1 Ar15 with very light bullets, 40gr if i remember correctly. Best with bullet 50-55 gr for me. IMR4198 will not produce the maximum velocity, for most cartridges. My old Dupont was $10 per pound, by the case years ago. Worked well in the 222 Rem also.

ArchAngelCD
September 30, 2012, 02:30 AM
An 8lb jug of IMR4198 goes for $164 here.

I would not use it in the .223 especially in a semi-auto rifle. I use 4198 for my 45-70 ammo and sometimes for lead bullets in the 30-30.

Bio-Chem
September 30, 2012, 04:06 AM
works great in my 444 marlin

MARKMALL
September 30, 2012, 08:50 AM
I have used it in 270 Win. with 100 gr. bullets. Around here it sells for $21.50/lb or $135.00/8 lb.

Sniper66
October 1, 2012, 01:21 PM
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Well the auction is over and I came home empty-handed. The 8-lb containers of powder sold for $110-$140; the 4198 sold for $110 with one guy buying all 3 containers. So he got a pretty good deal. There were lots of good bargains on ammo. One guy bought 100s of rounds of several different calibers, but I am reluctant to buy reloads. You know the old saying, "never shoot another man's reloads". I passed up a Winchester '97 in 16 ga. It was the best gun at the sale...went for $525. Still, it was lots of fun.

PapaG
October 1, 2012, 05:59 PM
Used to use it in my 308 and 30-06 with cast bullets in postal match competition. Also use it in my 444. Didn't like it in my 45-70 but that was just me......I use FFg black in it now.

FROGO207
October 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
In my limited exposure to public auctions the prices are usually above retail if there are any motivated buyers there. Or they sell things for dirt cheap. Never a middle ground for sure. At least you did not get caught up in a bidding war and spend too much.:cool:

Sniper66
October 2, 2012, 10:13 AM
Hey Frog....You are right about the auction issue. In fact, I had quit going to auctions because I would have to wait around for hours to bid on the one or two items I was interested in, only to have them sell for well above the price I was willing to pay. For this auction, the guns, ammo, and reloading components were the big draw so they sold all of it first. Locally, guns are always a big draw. All too often, they sell for full retail or more. People are eager to own unregistered guns, especially handguns. The only pistol there was an off-breed semi auto 22 mag, worth maybe $300-$400 and it sold for $525. It was a good day for the widow that was selling her deceased husband's collection.

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