The HP looks ridiculous on a handgun. It's made for long guns.
The standard TLR is still incredibly bright, it just won't project as far. Still, you can get silhouettes at over 200 yards with the regular TLR-1.
If you can only afford one right now, go with the standard, get the HP later.
I have both, just did a quick review on this board. You definietly can't beat the TLR line for the money, and I'm honestly not sure you can beat them at any price point without going substantially larger and heavier.
I use the TLR-1s on an AR and a Glock. I'm sure the HP works great, but I like the more compact 1s. Lights up my back yard, which is pretty large.
October 10, 2012, 01:55 PM
The guys at EAG Tactical have found after running through a bunch of shoot houses that 250 lumens is minimum, 500 is preferred. That puts you at a Surefire X300 Ultra, ~$220. I've got a TLR1 on my duty gun but the strobe feature can easily be activated by accident. It will be replaced as soon as I can get my hands on the Ultra.
October 10, 2012, 02:36 PM
I don't prefer any strobe action.
I agree the surefires are good, but I'm not paying $200 for one.
I think surefire, like 5.11 tactical stuff and many other products get popular in the LEO/military community (for good reason) but then have not only individual people buying, but the buying and inflating power of government contract buying.
October 10, 2012, 03:39 PM
I run an M20 Olight R2 with an upgraded smooth reflector on my AR15. It throws light out to 275-300 meters. The new M20s have XP-G gen 2 LED's which throw 25 meters further and 100+ lumens brighter. Torches that were designed for pistols just don't do it for me for rifle applications.
The Streamlight TLR series are awesome. But I would spend my money on the slightly older TLR LED's that have a 100 lumen output and floods well for my pistol or shotgun. Use the extra money for an Olight or equivalent, for my rifle I want an LED that is meant to throw light down range so I can clearly see what I'm shooting at, at a distance.
About 150 bucks in 2 weapon lights and 5 bucks for a viking tac mount for the rifle.
(tested Olight against Fenix TK series & PD series, a couple surefires and Stream lights. Overall preferred the Olight m20 with the AR15 for quality, size, price, brightness, beam quality, throw, etc.)
October 13, 2012, 07:24 PM
Surefire knock offs all the way!!! :rolleyes: I have one that is probably close to 10 years old and still going strong on my HD set up. At work I splurged for the real deal though. I like the Streamlights, I had one under a Mossy 500 for a good while
October 15, 2012, 12:14 AM
I went with the TLR 1.
I am very impressed.
I'd describe it as an excellent backyard light. It won't reach as far as the HP version, but that's ok.
It's excellent on the pistol. Really good on the rifle. Need to figure out how to mount it on the shotgun now.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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