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monotonous_iterancy
October 6, 2012, 11:22 PM
Today I was at a gun store checking out prices. I happened upon one of these in .45 ACP and was quite impressed. It's almost all plastic, lightweight, peep sights, it seems like a great carbine.

If you own one, or have fired one, what is it like?

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dprice3844444
October 6, 2012, 11:27 PM
http://mechtechsys.com/
they are not cheap.check out above units also

nwilliams
October 7, 2012, 01:44 AM
The CX4 is a great little carbine. They're reliable, accurate and lots of fun to shoot. I had to have one after I started watching the Battle Star remake a few years back but I got mine in 9mm because I wanted more mag capacity. They are very ergonomic little rifles, they point very naturally and despite being mostly plastic they feel very rugged and solid. Most people who you talk to that have CX4's really like them.

Buy one I doubt you'll have any regrets about it!

Jackal
October 7, 2012, 01:56 AM
I had one in 9mm. Good rifle, accurate enough and reliable. I sold it due to the annoying cheekslap I experienced under recoil. I think its due to the large mass of the bolt. Aside from being about $250 overpriced when new, I say go for it.

gpurp
October 7, 2012, 02:27 AM
I have one in .40 SW. Plenty accurate at 50 yards. Yes its a little over priced but you're paying for the Beretta name. Takes the same mags as their PX4 pistols. Works good if you like having the same cartridge in a rifle/pistol combo. My biggest complaint is the 2-ton trigger but that can be fixed.

mnrivrat
October 7, 2012, 04:42 AM
I inherited one from my brother in 45. It functioned well, and I can see why he thought highly of it.

It did not fit me however, and I past it on.

jakk280rem
October 7, 2012, 06:20 AM
Had one in 9mm. it was okay. accurate and reliable with full power ammo. Cycled federal red box but would fail to lock open on the last shot. i didn't really like the recoil. Was expecting a soft shooter but was surprised to find out it had more recoil than my 357 1894c. Don't get me wrong, it's no 12ga, but that 2 pound hunk of steel slamming into my shoulder was a revelation. It was also a bit plasticy. the bolt release loosened up over time and started flopping around.

pretty decent carbine. haven't handled the 45 version. My advice is if you have need of a 45 carbine go for it. but i think it makes a lousy plinker. the recoil and slightly industrial nature of the plastic kinda turned me off.

monotonous_iterancy
October 7, 2012, 12:20 PM
Overpriced? Well how much did you all get one for? I found this one in the $600 range. I don't like how small the capacity is on the .45 version. Only 8 rounds. Wouldn't 10 or 15 seem more reasonable?

I'm not looking to buy one, I can't really afford it, but I did think it was cool.

rallyhound
October 7, 2012, 01:12 PM
http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww15/rallyhound/cx4and336009.jpgget one, great fun. Trick it out and go Zombie hunting.http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww15/rallyhound/cx4and336012.jpg

Jackal
October 7, 2012, 01:28 PM
Overpriced? Well how much did you all get one for?

We are assuming new, retail. Anyone can find a steal of a deal occasionally on the used market. I got mine for $400 used years ago, it was well worth that. However, for new retail of around $750-$800, its just not worth it. There are just too many other/better choices in that price range in calibers from .22-.308.

mberoose
October 7, 2012, 03:12 PM
I had one in .45. Effective range was 100 yards tops, 50 was its' sweet spot. Ate any ammo I could throw at it...it was extremely reliable. Ergonomics were fantastic, it really was a comfortable, intuitive rifle to use. I like the platform a lot. Trigger isn't great, but Sierra Papa has trigger kits that supposedly make it much better.

Ultimately ammo costs and its' limited capacity (8 rds.) drove me nuts, so I got rid of it. Sierra Papa makes a mag extension kit that increases capacity to 15 rounds (if I remember correctly) but it's pretty expensive and protrudes from the magwell. Also - mags (Beretta Cougar/Stoeger 8045 mags) are expensive, the cheapest I was able to find was CDNN, who wanted something like $34 a piece...everybody else was about $43 and up. In all, I'd have gladly kept it if it was 9mm.

Also - be warned, if you ever decide to sell it, you'll have a heck of a time doing so for the same reasons I got rid of mine. The 9mm version (particularly the 92FS mag version) sells very easily.

I'd personally skip the .45 version myself...the only reason I got mine is because it was dirt, dirt cheap, and was a fixer-upper of sorts. The first owner horribly painted it OD green, and I stripped it all off.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i423/mberoose/ber1.jpg

meanmrmustard
October 7, 2012, 03:48 PM
Quite accurate, quite slick, quite expensive. It does nothing a Hi Point can't, and its cheaper.

gpurp
October 7, 2012, 04:56 PM
+1 on the recoil. I was expecting the carbine to dampen the .40 more than it does. Not to say its bad. I'd say its close to a SKS.

desidog
October 8, 2012, 09:40 AM
The cx4 is a lot better than a Hipoint. Show me a hipoint that can be swapped out in under thirty seconds from left side to right side the charging handle, ejection, mag release, and safety. It's truely the most lefty-friendly carbine ever. And it takes the same mags as my 92FS.

Bridge
October 8, 2012, 02:42 PM
I'm a novice shooter. I bought the CX4 in 9mm that shares mags with the 92 pistol as a HD weapon that my daughter could use if necessary. (In NYS she can't use a pistol without a handgun license.) I absolutely love the fit and finish of the carbine. It fits me perfectly. Despite limited prior shooting experience, mostly with 22s at summer camp fifty hears ago, I was able to shoot very accurately--certainly adequate for HD--and found the recoil to be mild. The gun is heavy to hold without support for extended shooting at least for me but no problem using a bench rest. I added a Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 red dot which allows me to keep both both eyes open (plus it's cool). Beretta currently has stainless steel 10 and 15 round mags on sale around $25 on their website, though only in 9mm. My only regret is that the CX4 that pairs with the PX4 instead of with the 92 is impossible to find in 9mm. If the .45 Storm is available in both the carbine and pistol I think the price becomes even more reasonable.

BearGriz
October 8, 2012, 03:01 PM
I love mine in 9mm that takes 92FS mags. Accurate and cool. It was a bit pricey, even used, but it sure is fun.

ArfinGreebly
October 8, 2012, 04:47 PM
Mine's a 9mm.

I haven't shot it a lot, but so far all the rounds go pretty much POA = POI.

The sights are good, but I'll remark that they're not particularly cross-dominant eye friendly.

My daughter is right-handed, left-eyed when she shoots. Conventional sights work fine for her, the ones on the CX4 ... not so much. And of course shooting right-hand/left-eye isn't something I recommend in any case with a carbine, but she's just silly accurate with my Camp 9 using that technique.

That said, I do believe I paid too much for mine, by a hundred bucks at least. It's best to leave your emotions at home when you're shopping for bang-stick hardware.

Bridge
October 8, 2012, 06:59 PM
Red dot sight would allow your daughter to shoot with both eyes open. Not sure, but I imagine that obviates the cross-dominance problem. My sight (see above) was only about $90 on Amazon.

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 07:31 PM
The cx4 is a lot better than a Hipoint. Show me a hipoint that can be swapped out in under thirty seconds from left side to right side the charging handle, ejection, mag release, and safety. It's truely the most lefty-friendly carbine ever. And it takes the same mags as my 92FS.
Considering the charging handle unscrews from the bolt, and screws into the other side as easily, I'd say that bout covers lefty/righty duties.

How is it better? That's a substantial statement considering that either is neck and neck accuracy wise, the Hi Point jolts less, it costs less. Where exactly does it excel over the HP in anything other than the name it wears?

I don't use nor will most likely in the near future own a 92. So, the magazine corresponding to either pistol or rifle is not a selling point for me.

rallyhound
October 8, 2012, 08:58 PM
well for one thing, the Beretta takes 30 round mags.
It can eject left or right--your choice.
You can easily co-witness the sights with a red dot.

thats 3

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 09:23 PM
well for one thing, the Beretta takes 30 round mags.
It can eject left or right--your choice.
You can easily co-witness the sights with a red dot.

thats 3
1. Not everyone owns a Beretta. Some states don't allow hi cap mags.
2. Not everyone is left handed, and left handed folks shoot right eject just fine. Does the CX4 spit brass directly back along the right side of the receiver where this is a concern?
3. Magpul MBUS can be installed with an after market rail sold on EBay, making it not only more optic friendly, but lighter as well. Pretty sure those cowitness, don't they...and still be cheaper.

That's 0.

mberoose
October 8, 2012, 09:32 PM
A Colt 1911 does nothing that a Hi-Point pistol can't either, doesn't stop people from buying the nicer gun for a multitude of reasons, nor does it make it less relevant.

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 09:45 PM
A Colt 1911 does nothing that a Hi-Point pistol can't either, doesn't stop people from buying the nicer gun for a multitude of reasons, nor does it make it less relevant.
What reasons, exactly, would those be? Where's there a rule that says it has to be relevant to waste money? You can spend your hard earned dollars on whatever you want, even when there's things that do the same thing for cheaper. :rolleyes:

mberoose
October 8, 2012, 09:49 PM
It's entirely up to the person putting the money down. And my point was that just because the Hi-Point exists and does almost the same thing for cheaper, it doesn't make the Beretta any less relevant. But again, it comes down to the person.

Zebraranger
October 8, 2012, 09:51 PM
I bought the CX4 .40 because I am a lefty and its easy to change the side of ejection, charging handle, safety and mag release pretty quickly. I have dual charging handles on mine so it can be used from either side. It also uses the same mags as my Beretta 90-two .40 making it nice for a pistol/carbine combo. At under 30", its perfect for an HD carbine (which is the role mine is used for). As others have stated, its ergonomics make it very comfortable to shoulder and a natural pointer. Its a very fun and enjoyable range gun too. I've had mine for a couple of years and I haven't had any issues with it. The down side is the factory trigger is pretty bad and should have been better considering the price of the gun.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb204/zebraranger/Collection/010-1.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb204/zebraranger/Collection/004.jpg

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
It's entirely up to the person putting the money down. And my point was that just because the Hi-Point exists and does almost the same thing for cheaper, it doesn't make the Beretta any less relevant. But again, it comes down to the person.
I'll give you this: I'd take a Hi Point over a CX4 any day ending in Y, but I'd take either over a Sub2K in a heartbeat. Which, is a shame, I like the idea that they take Glock mags, but not that it jams like Michael Jackson in the 80's.

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 09:57 PM
http://mechtechsys.com/
they are not cheap.check out above units also
These are great also. I've shot the 1911 system, want a Glock upper myself.

mberoose
October 8, 2012, 09:59 PM
I'll give you this: I'd take a Hi Point over a CX4 any day ending in Y, but I'd take either over a Sub2K in a heartbeat. Which, is a shame, I like the idea that they take Glock mags, but not that it jams like Michael Jackson in the 80's.

Do they? I've been really interested in those for a while, but refuse to pay what they're going for right now. But that shatters my hopes & dreams to pieces, if they have issues.

OT, pologize :)

meanmrmustard
October 8, 2012, 10:02 PM
Do they? I've been really interested in those for a while, but refuse to pay what they're going for right now. But that shatters my hopes & dreams to pieces, if they have issues.

OT, pologize :)
Mine did. It was the 9mm Glock model. No matter ammo, or what mag I used (10,17,33 rounder) it was unreliable. Stories are mixed, but that's my experience with them.

The .40 cal version, IME, is the better buy. Owned one, friend owns one, and it had no issues of any sort. Ammo is costlier, but no failures to note. Maybe research the .40 Glock model, that may be your winner.

mf-dif
October 8, 2012, 10:46 PM
Overpriced IMO. Many other pistol carbines id buy before this one. Suomi, Sterling or Uzi are readily available.

gpurp
October 8, 2012, 11:04 PM
I'm glad we at least have a few choices left when it comes to pistol caliber carbines. So that each can go his own way.

ApplePie
October 8, 2012, 11:22 PM
To me, reliability is the most important thing. My Hi-Point 9mm carbine has never jammed, and I've fed it all kinds of factory ammo and reloads. I can afford the Beretta, but chose the Hi-Point after researching the Beretta and finding too many reports of the Beretta jamming. I also heard that the Beretta has more plastic parts than the Hi-Point. Saving about $500 was just an added bonus.

ParChaser
October 10, 2012, 03:56 AM
fired one in 9mm and it was extremely accurate. could almost write my name. I chose a HK ump .45 conversion and haven't looked back. by it and have fun.

guyfromohio
October 10, 2012, 06:00 AM
It's important to put as many rails on it as you can. Seriously, what's the point of a pistol caliber carbine if you can't fit a scope, maglight, laser pointer, bipod, grenade launcher, bayonet, fork, and jet pack? Go tactical or go home!

DammitBoy
November 12, 2012, 11:21 AM
I just traded for one in .45 and I really like it - with the exception of the ten round mags.

Any chance somebody is going to start making aftermarket extended round mags for the PX4 anytime soon?

barnbwt
November 12, 2012, 09:08 PM
Maybe if they ever make a 92FS in 45ACP ;). I mainly wonder why no one's either making 3rd party extended mags or cobbed together an extended floor-plate thingy. It's not like there isn't a demand or market for CX4 goodies at this point. Anyone wanna let me borrow their injection moulder? :evil:

TCB

michael5446
November 12, 2012, 09:15 PM
get rid of it, the thing weighs just as much as a normal hunting rifle and still kicks....

DammitBoy
November 12, 2012, 11:36 PM
Seems fairly light to me, but the only thing I've got on it is a small laser. I understand the SierraPapa kits greatly reduces recoil and makes the trigger group much better.

Anybody have experience with ordering from/customer service with SierraPapa?

DammitBoy
November 15, 2012, 07:29 PM
I've started upgrading my CX4, starting with a Moerse Lekker Industries solid barrel shroud that looks great and is slightly shorter than the Beretta factory shroud.

I still have the small red laser under the barrel on that pull out picatinny rail system under the barrel (how cool is that?) which I plan to replace with a much better green laser system (later).

I added a Tasco Aimpoint on the top rail and it co-witnesses perfectly with the factory sights.

Decided to remove the side rails and the bottom third rail kit to clean up the lines on the gun and I'm not adding any more bells and whistles, so I really don't see a need for them.

The carbine came with two 8 round factory mags and I've bought two 10 round factory mags off of gunbroker.com as well as the Beretta factory cleaning kit.

Mine came with the backpack soft case and everything fits in it perfectly. Now I just need to go to the range and see how she runs. If I'm not satisfied with it's performance, I think I'll go for the whole Sierrapapa upgrade kit from Brownell's.

MachIVshooter
November 15, 2012, 07:45 PM
I had one in 9mm. Good rifle, accurate enough and reliable. I sold it due to the annoying cheekslap I experienced under recoil. I think its due to the large mass of the bolt.

Pretty much mirrors my experience. I held onto it for about 3 years, but found myself shooting it less and less because the little gap between the stock and cheek pad liked to remove facial hair under recoil.

Ultimately, I like my Marlin Camp 9 and Camp 45 a lot better than the Storm or other PCCs. Plus they use S&W 59 series and 1911 mags.

Jericho_223
November 15, 2012, 07:52 PM
Copied from an older post of mine, with some additions:

I think it's a pretty fun little carbine! Haven't had any problem with the sights, recoil is pretty light, and I'm finding that follow up shots come pretty easily. Overall the carbine is very controllable. The rifle was very well maintained, and the guy I got it from barely ever used it, hence why he was selling it. It's very comfortable to shoulder and aim, and I haven't really had any problems with the trigger, then again I've also become accustomed to the factory trigger on a Saiga, so take that as you will.

Mine is chambered in .40 and takes 90- series magazines. I've put a couple hundred rounds through it, but so far I'm really liking it a lot! I've used Federal 180gr FMJ, and Fiocchi 165gr JHP and the Cx4 likes both pretty well. With the Federals That thing may as well have been a laser gun at ~75 yards. I also have some S&B 180 FMJ here that I haven't had a chance to try out yet. Love the ability to configure the carbine how I like it, as it already has all the rails, and the guy threw in a couple magazine holders as well as a pretty nice Surefire light and mount. Loving it!

DammitBoy
November 30, 2012, 09:48 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8206/8233944928_34d5172430_c.jpg

Here's mine. Changed out the Aimpoint red dot for a Bushnell Trophy I had sitting around...

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