Where Does Our Fear Come From?


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Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 11:42 AM
You know, I'm 24 years old. When I was a boy, my parents never locked our doors. Never needed to. In 24 years, there's never been a single break in to my parents' home, when I lived in the second biggest county, third biggest city in Maryland. Only Baltimore and Annapolis are bigger than our city. At least 80,000 people if I had to guess. Maybe even 100,000. This year marked the first shooting death in my city in years.

And hey, I know we're not New York, but honestly, it seems like folks around here aren't too afraid. So why are so many of us in the US afraid? Where does it come from? I don't think it's the guns, I shoot rifles. I like rifles and handguns. We have a couple ranges and gun shops here, we like guns over here. It's not "minorities". There's probably more black and latino here than there are whites.

You take a place like New York, they have more blacks and latinos, probably. But what do you guys think? My sister is in Canada. They've got 7 million guns for 30 million Canucks. They've got the violent video games and movies, just like us. They have a good mix of ethnicities just like us. But they don't lock their doors over there, either. They're not afraid. They even have more poor than we do, a higher unemployment rate, believe it or not.

Why are we afraid? Why aren't they?

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el Godfather
October 7, 2012, 11:55 AM
I am not afraid. I like guns for collection, sports, hunting and self defense (just in case). I do not keep them because I am afraid.

PS
I am not sure why you keep making references to Blacks and Latinos as if they are responsible. And whats up with term Canucks?

I also believe this thread does not belong in General Handgun Discussion.

Creature
October 7, 2012, 12:19 PM
Robbery and assault aren't anything new. What is new is the breadth and speed at which the news media reports crime. That, in conjunction with the shrinkage of rural America and the rapid expansion of urban and suburban America, I believe has changed the way Americans view their own security.

Rexster
October 7, 2012, 12:23 PM
You are posting in the incorrect forum; this probably belongs in ST&T, rather than here in General Handgun Discussion.

Regarding the topic, I am not afraid. What gave you that idea?

Regarding the locking of doors, well, people will walk in. It has happened to us, when my wife forgot to lock the door. Malcolm the Fur-Beast Dog chased the intruder away, giving the intruder a small nip on the arm, and thankfully, Malcolm waited on the front porch for us to
come home.

Another time, someone turned the front door knob, from outside, while I was home. The door was locked. By the time I got my ID, put on some shoes, and checked outside, the prowler was gone.

At our previous address, I heard footsteps on the roof, walking from the front to the rear. I went out the back door, shotgun in hand, with Malcolm the Fur-Beast, to see the prowler standing on the fence. The prowler very quickly decided to visit the neighbors, instead of us, for some reason.

At yet another previous address, I was burgarized twice while not at home.

Yes, I lock my doors, but simply becaus it is sensible. I do not live in fear.

smalls
October 7, 2012, 12:45 PM
Gun ownership, or carrying one for defense is not "being afraid" of anything. It's being prepared. Bad things happen to people every day, and it's a lottery.

They have a good mix of ethnicities just like us. But they don't lock their doors over there, either

This is a pretty broad generalization, and a poor one at that. I'm from Canada. They have people who lock their doors, and those who don't. Same as here in the US. My grandparents live like a mile away from their neighbors. They don't feel the need to lock their doors. My aunt lives downtown, she most certainly locks her doors.

They also have extremely poor firearms laws, that do not allow you to protect yourself with a firearm, so keeping one for self defense isn't generally a good idea.

OilyPablo
October 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
I'm not afraid, just prepared.

I like to know what is going on. What is the MO of the latest crimes....you know, like an innocent looking female knocks on door to see if someone is home (she pretends to be looking for Jane Doe) if you answer. If not she calls the goons and they go for the slider first, etc.............

22-rimfire
October 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
I do not live in fear. But the situation you allude to causes people to distrust each other. Hence when a person really needs help, sometimes there is nobody willing to help simply because they do not trust the person who seems to need help.

I keep the doors locked at night and mostly during the day if I am inside my house. If I hear a sound, I want to be reasonably sure that the source of the sound is not invited inside my home.

Remllez
October 7, 2012, 01:06 PM
Personal experience.

bassdogs
October 7, 2012, 01:19 PM
Afraid?? No!! Paranoid?? I don't sit and dream about bad guys. Ah, Someone said "Prepared" and that is where I think I fall. Moved to the country in a very rural area. Sheriff told me when I inquired about some break-ins out on my ridge and he told me I needed to put myself in a position to protect myself and my home. Said he had 3 deputies to patrol the entire county that stretches 30 to 40 miles from E/W and N/S. A typical response time would be 30 to 45 minutes [more if on the other side of the county and all deputies not on duty].

Can't help you with the Canada thing. I'm not a militia guy but do believe in our constitutional right to bear arms. Most of my handguns are not registered having been purchased in private sales. In Canada [and Ill] they tell you that you can't own this or that. There is probably some correlation to having fewer firearms in circulation in Canada, but I just don't want to live in a country that sits on its citizens prevents them from defending themselves with a deadly weapon. Last year I flew to Alaska for a motorhome road trip. I took a handgun for "camp" protection mostly from big furry 4 legged things. Considering driving thru Canada to Ak next time and can not do it with a handgun even one that is broken down and locked up in a case etc. I can take a long gun and will but it must be unloaded to be legal. You can load it when you are where you can reasonably expect to encounter dangerous wildlife and are far away from any population of people.

No I don't think Fear has anything to do with gun ownership any more than SPEED is why we drive cars that can go 100mph or more. There are times you need to GO and there are times you might need to defend yourself.

smalls
October 7, 2012, 01:28 PM
Most of my handguns are not registered having been purchased in private sales

NICS is NOT registration.

Considering driving thru Canada to Ak next time and can not do it with a handgun even one that is broken down and locked up in a case etc.

You can bring it in/out of Canada, you just need to go through the motions/procedure's. You may not have a loaded gun in your car there, though. I'd be very weary of keeping any gun for self defense up there, though, long gun or handgun.

MachIVshooter
October 7, 2012, 01:29 PM
Did you just watch "Bowling for Columbine" or something?

I am not afraid. My wife is not afraid. We are prepared to deal with a threat to our family. I am also aware that rural living reduces but does not nullify the risk of home invasion & other violence; My father and stepmother were murdered in their bed in a Montana town that had a nearly homogenous (98% white) population of less than 1,000 people at the time.

buck460XVR
October 7, 2012, 01:32 PM
Gun ownership, or carrying one for defense is not "being afraid" of anything. It's being prepared. Bad things happen to people every day, and it's a lottery.



That is a broad generalization also. Read the hunting forum here and read the fear many have acquired about bears and cougars. Folks that have never seen either in the wild are buying hand cannons they cannot afford or even shoot accurately enough for protection. That is not being prepared, but being scared. Same goes for SD/HD discusions here in most any forum. Many of the emotions that come from the caliber/bullet wars have nuttin' in common with preparedness, but are fear induced. Wearing a firearm 24/7/365 even behind locked doors as posted in many of the threads found here are also not about being reasonably prepared. While locking ones doors and exercising their 2nd Amendment rights is not a sign of being scared poopless, many out there doing that are. Fear is a great motivator. Within reason it can be a good thing. Anyone here that claims they are not afraid of being in a scenario where they need to use their guns in SD is lying thru their teeth. If there was no fear of a possible threat, none of us would carry concealed. If there was no fear of being attacked by a large predator while in the woods, there'd be no reason for anyone to ever carry a back-up gun. Just sayin'.

Rob0321
October 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
I've had one break-in. I was asleep for it but my wife was awake and luckily had a firearm within an arms reach. That apartment never got broken into again.

I would not ever say I am afraid. I am prepared. I didn't survive three nasty deployments to get greased back here on my own soil.

Arkansas Paul
October 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
I'm not afraid. But I'm not stupid either.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 01:43 PM
Why are we afraid?

who is the "we" to which you refer?
and why do you think that we are "afraid"?

Derek Zeanah
October 7, 2012, 01:46 PM
There's little fear here. One of the few times I felt fear when unarmed was when I took the wrong exit from the Underground in Atlanta and found myself in the middle of a street full of stopped traffic for Freaknik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaknik) in 1994. My girlfriend at the time (who later became my wife) and I were of the wrong skin color to be welcome, and were subject to some hostile attention. A pistol wouldn't have helped us and we successfully defused the situation and got to a safer place, but it's quite possible to end up in a dangerous area unintentionally. I'll leave out the time I tried to refuel my car in Compton while taking my teenage sister and her friends to also in the 1990's.

Nowadays any fear I have is warranted: my wife is a pediatrician, and one of her jobs is to facilitate the removal of vulnerable children from parents who beat them. There have been death threats, and we live in a small town and are easy to find. That's life in small town America, I'm afraid, where one can choose to live 10-20 minutes away from a police response.

I'll say this though: for reasons y'all can discuss on other forums, Americans are more violent than other cultures. When I was stationed in Germany my friends and I would typically go to the more questionable parts of town when off duty, and the only time we had a weapon pulled on us was by another American stationed there. Discussions with cab drivers indicated that many simply wouldn't pick up Americans -- in the previous year to my most detailed conversation > 12 cab drivers had been killed in Germany, and all had been killed by American GIs. We're just a violent people.

You can drive into [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_and_towns_in_Austria]Salzburg (]Knotts Scary Farm[/url), the 4th largest city in Austria, in the middle of the night and walk around unafraid without any knowledge of the area. Doing so in any similar-sized city in the US is foolhardy. This isn't fear; rather it's an honest assessment of the social situation we live in.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 01:49 PM
Did not mean to start a war here, guys. Sorry. I didn't accuse anyone of being afraid, there were no personal attacks at all, but I was referring to the news. I should have been clearer. Yeah, the news is full of violence and death that we don't usually see in our lives, and I wondered why. That's it. That's all I was trying to say.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 01:51 PM
Again...I don't know who "we" are

Americans? Gun owners? Humans? THRers?

Who is the "we" to which you refer?

Anothermiller
October 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
not afraid either,just know there are some oddballs wandering around that have nothing better to do than break in and steal things for money to buy their drugs..

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 01:55 PM
We, Americans, all of us that watch the damn news. I've come to be disgusted with the fear in the news anymore.

smalls
October 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
Anyone here that claims they are not afraid of being in a scenario where they need to use their guns in SD is lying thru their teeth

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be afraid of an attack. But to live in fear is completely different.

smalls
October 7, 2012, 01:59 PM
I've come to be disgusted with the fear in the news anymore

Ratings. That's what they're there for. Think of it like reality TV, because it's hardly "news" anymore. Same reason people go to see horror flicks.

Certaindeaf
October 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
I'm scared of the coming bacon shortage.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
That's what I'm saying. All the news, every news outlet, wants us to live in a culture of fear. Why? We're not buying it. Are we? Y'all don't seem to be, and I'm glad. I'm not buying it either.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Speaking as an American, I can say that I do not fear for myself or my own well-being.

I prepare for the worst but I expect the best.

Any fear that I have is for my daughters.

XTrooper
October 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Vigilance and fear are not synonyms.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
Guys, again. I'm not accussing anyone of anything. I'm not saying y'all are afraid. But there is an underdcurrent of fear that the news injects us with daily. That's what I mean by "our fear." It's like a virus that has infected our nation. I'm glad y'all aren't afraid. That's what I hoped.

Certaindeaf
October 7, 2012, 02:12 PM
Half the guys here are ex-military and or whatall. A certain tension within the bones might be a more apt description but I sure wouldn't say they/we are afeared of about anything.
I hear what you're saying though. We all just have to get by in life in our own way.
Have fun!

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
Kylaen,

I never suggested that you were accusing anyone. It is just that I am not so arrogant so as to speak for anyone but myself.

As to my observations, I see people wandering around unarmed, looking at their smart phones (texting) instead of looking around and generally not having ANY awareness of threats around them. They seem to see it on TV but not think it can happen to them.

I teach women's self defense and it is VERY difficult to get people to take it seriously until they have become a victim.

So in my experience the average person is not fearful. They are not paranoid. They are not prepared. Mostly, the masses seem to wander about ignorant of their surroundings and any threats that may be there.

This was a verbose way of saying that my observations differ from yours.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
Guillermo, I agree. If I could help women learn to defend themselves, I would. I certainly wouldn't like to be a victim of anything, myself, and neither would anyone here, I know. My interest in law enforcement is centered around protecting myself, my family, and innocent people. But like others pointed out, there's a difference between being prepared and being terrified of people, like the news wants us to be. I want people to be prepared, but not terrified of other people.

76shuvlinoff
October 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
I am afraid that I might not be right there when/if my wife and daughter need me to be.

We are indeed a violent culture, my "plan" would be to respond to violence with an overwhelming amount of same.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 02:27 PM
like the news wants us to be

give up watching the news

Your BP will go down. Besides...it is inaccurate. And I would respectfully argue that if you didn't watch the news you would not think that Americans are a fearful bunch.

Look around you and I think you will find that the average Joe is more likely to be clueless.

And BTW, I am a RAD Systems instructor http://www.rad-systems.com/ and recommend it highly. If you want to get involved, it is VERY rewarding.

Also, there is a child empowerment program that I am also certified to instruct called radKIDS http://www.radkids.org/. We have never had one of our kids abducted (I think over 80 saves). But it is much more than that. It teaches kids to take care of themselves...not just self defense.

If you want to get involved...I HIGHLY recommend it.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 02:33 PM
Guillermo, thanks for the info. I'll check it out, and see if I can get involved, and help. Sweet, Mt. Airy is closest to me. Awesome.

ritepath
October 7, 2012, 03:26 PM
We're not afraid...we're aware.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 03:43 PM
Kylaen,

Glad to help.

I hope you can join the fight.

G

tek610
October 7, 2012, 04:12 PM
Kylean-

I just bought my wife her first handgun, and she now has her Minnesota carry permit. I am white, she is black. 50% of my household is black. Should I be afraid?

You're clearly a racist. You can deny it all you want, but if a large percentage of blacks and latinos is reason to arm yourself, take a look in the mirror buddy.

Most of the mass shooting stories that garner national attention have been perpetrated by white men. Maybe I should be afraid of YOU.


Before I became a "gun guy", I was the victim of gun crime twice. Once in Maryland, once in DC. What on earth was I thinking marrying a black woman and arming her? I guess I'm just contributing to the "problem."

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 04:20 PM
tek610

You need to learn to read

He did not say what you say or even suggest what you say he said.

You owe him an apology

tek610
October 7, 2012, 04:32 PM
If I misread his post, I certainly do owe him an apology. But it's a bit convoluted. After a reread, I can't quite understand what he's getting at. "In NY, there's more blacks and latinos."

What does that mean? Why is it part of a post concerning fear?

Ky- If you were to clarify this statement, I will eat my words and humbly apologize, but when this is included as part of the conversation, something seems to be bubbling beneath the surface.

I see the line "It's not minorities." But- I'm still not clear on your post.

Pilot
October 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Not afraid, just wary.

JohnM
October 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
I could see this happening when I first saw this thread.
Time for a moderator to put the kibosh on this thing.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 04:39 PM
Tek,

I agree he should have put it more clearly (It took me a while to figure out who "we" are) but he also mentioned

"They have a good mix of ethnicities just like us. But they don't lock their doors over there, either. They're not afraid. They even have more poor than we do, a higher unemployment rate, believe it or not."

As to the whole issue of race, even if he WERE to have said what you allude to, that does not mean that he is a racist. Many folks understand statistics.

And NONE of it matters. Calling a fellow THRer a racist is not cool.

I strongly suggest that you edit that before a moderator comes along and you offer him an apology.

Certaindeaf
October 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
I'm third generation Oregonian - live in the biggest city here - but lived a good portion of my life down California way. Nice place to visit.
The last time I was there that I had time to watch the news was quite a while ago. It made me raise an eyebrow a little bit with just the amount of reported bad. It's a different world. It's not even on the news down there unless there's particular evil and or mayhem/scope.
Kinda an eye-opener/odd and glad to not be there.

tek610
October 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
Ky- I sincerely apologize if I misread your less than clear post.

Certainly, there is no way I can know you enough to accuse you of racism from one post on an internet forum.

My response was a knee-jerk reaction to your OP, which, as has been pointed out, I misread.

Enrolling in reading lessons as we speak.

Good luck with everything.

tek610

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 05:00 PM
For the record, my girlfriend is black, as are some of my cousins. I'm not mixed race, but certain family members are, and that's not a problem. You did misread my OP, tek610. I intended to allude to the fact that people in America who may feel afraid due to watching the news are likely to blame the crime on blacks and latinos, because when the news talks about a shooting, or violence, or car thefts, more often than not the perp is depicted as a "minority". A vague reference, indirectly suggesting that news outlets could be prone to racism. That's a little thing called sub-text, as in, you can figure out what I'm saying even if I don't directly say it.

Thanks for the assist, Guillermo. Much obliged.

Guillermo
October 7, 2012, 05:04 PM
order is restored

:D

I am now going to strap on a gun and head to the gas station and the grocery

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 05:07 PM
I'm sure we all have heard things on the news, depicting a suspect as a "black male, approximately 6 feet tall, who was last seen wearing a hoodie/afro hairstyle." How many black men could that describe? Way too many. Hence, sub-text. Or maybe I should just spell things out, when I'm asking people about the effect the news has on a broad number of social issues in America.

Red Cent
October 7, 2012, 05:21 PM
"Fear is an emotion induced by a perceived threat that causes animals to move quickly away from the location of the perceived threat, and sometimes hide. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of danger. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear

"To be afraid is to have the emotional response of fear to threats or danger."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afraid

Semantics. It is interesting to see that not one of you is fearful or afraid.

About ten years ago three men with stockings on their head burst through the front door of the bank with shock and awe. One came for me, one vaulted the counter in the face of my tellers, and the one with the sawed off pump took position just to the side of the door.
When the guy came through my office door with his Bersa 380, I was not afraid. Some old training kicked in and I scanned him. I was not fearful when he grabbed my arm and forced me down on my stomach. When he put his hand in the middle of my back, it scared me, almost, to death. i thought I was about to be shot in the head. I cannot define that second of helplessness and fear.
And they got away.
Now I lock any and all doors at the home (retired). I carry a weapon when I take the trashcan to the end of the drive. Forty yards maybe. I am not paranoid (I think) but it has been said you do not have to reload in my house. There is always loaded guns around.
When I am out in the dark and something startles me, those hairs on the back of my neck means fear. The reaction to fear. It is impossible to have never experienced a symptom of fear. Impossible. Unless you have had a lobotomy.
Afraid? It is a simple word that "we" brave souls would never admit to anyone. BS. I was afraid.

460Kodiak
October 7, 2012, 05:22 PM
There is a big difference between living in fear and using common sense. If your home gets robbed and the insurance company finds out that you don't even lock your doors.... I wonder what the outcome would be. I'm seriously wondering not making a snide coment.

I grew up in a major US city. More population = proportionally more crime. Thus, you always lock your doors. I lock my doors when I'm home in broad daylight. If it becomes something you just do and don't think about, you have less to worry about.

When I was a kid, the neighbors across the street moved out and drug dealers moved in. They were also selling stolen guns. One day the swat team was out on the street arresting them all. We found out that they had an armed guy sitting in the spruce trees when they were conducting business just in case one of their clients tried to grab and run. That's really creepy when I think about how many times I was likely watched when I'd get home at night.

I now live in a tiney town in the middle of nowhere, population 1800. Last year a young vet with PTSD went nuts and started shooting up the town. He shot up the high school, senior center, sheriff's office, and then crashed his truck into the front doors of the sheriff's office. He fled on foot and the cops shot him down 4 blocks from my home.

Bad things can happen anywhere. Don't fool yourself. Lock your doors. It's a simple deterent that requires very little effort, and if someone is trying to get in your home, it may buy you those couple of seconds you need to get to a gun or knife or whatever you have.

Do I have to tie my shoes? No, I could walk around with them untied and probably not trip. Do I tie them anyway? Yes.....

It is impossible to have never experienced a symptom of fear. Impossible. Unless you have had a lobotomy.
Afraid? It is a simple word that "we" brave souls would never admit to anyone. BS. I was afraid.


That sounds like a very tramatic experience you went through and I'm sorry that you had to go through it Red Cent. I don't think anyone is saying they don't ever feel fear though, unless I missed that post. Anyone who says they are never or have never been afraid is simply lying to themselves and others. However some people are very good at remaining rational and proactive while still feeling that fear, and are capable of acting. Soldiers and LEO's are good examples, but anyone can learn to do this with practice and mental dicipline. It doesn't mean the fear isn't there.

I had an angry land owner think I was trespassing, when in fact I wasn't, approach me with a shotgun in hand, I've been bit by a dog and harassed by several others, I've taken falls from over ten feet and been badly hurt, I was chased by two domesticated bulls (I've never ran so fast in my life!), I've had a grizzly bear encounter and a black bear encounter, I've nearly been run over by white tail deer on a few occasions, I've nearly been trampled by elk that a coworker spooked up, I've been in a few car accidents and one boating accident when I was a kid, I've been running around with mountain lions for a long time,.................. and I will admit truthfully, that in every one of those situations, I've felt genuine gut twisting terror.

But those were specific experiences that induced intense fear. I don't live in fear. I believe in being prepared and taking proper precaustions, but I don't feel the need to arm myself at all times. I keep loaded guns in my house just in case, I CCW when I'm allowed to just in case, but if I'm taking my trash out, I don't give it a second thought. I just do it.

Lawdawg45
October 7, 2012, 05:56 PM
Someone who chooses to leave their home unlocked can replace most things with insurance if they're robbed, unfortunately their is no second chance when someone decides to take your life for a wrist watch or car. Preparation is not fear, and leaving your family and valuables open to harms way isn't a wise choice.;)

LD

Rexster
October 7, 2012, 06:35 PM
The news media uses fear-mongering as a tool to get people to watch the news more often. I seldom view broadcast media, as it seems to sensationalize everything.

OilyPablo
October 7, 2012, 06:39 PM
There are much better ways to be informed than watching the TV news. Kill your TV.

BSA1
October 7, 2012, 06:40 PM
It seems to me that before you asked a baited question like this you should at least get the facts right on where you live.

You say "Only Baltimore and Annapolis are bigger than our city."

The 2010 population of Baltimore is 620,961.

The 2010 population of Annapolis is 38,880.

A Google search listed a lot of cities in Maryland with populations between 38,880 and 620, 961.

Your liberal roots are showing .

TennJed
October 7, 2012, 07:38 PM
It seems to me that before you asked a baited question like this you should at least get the facts right on where you live.

You say "Only Baltimore and Annapolis are bigger than our city."

The 2010 population of Baltimore is 620,961.

The 2010 population of Annapolis is 38,880.

A Google search listed a lot of cities in Maryland with populations between 38,880 and 620, 961.

Your liberal roots are showing .
What does any of that have to do with being liberal? Did you bother to read his follow up post in the thread?

Vern Humphrey
October 7, 2012, 08:26 PM
I used to work at General Motors and had an apartment in Utica, MI, but kept my residence in Virginia, where my wife lived and worked. I'd go home every other weekend.

Coming into the Detroit area, there's a tricky exit, and if you aren't paying attention, you wind up in downtown Detroit. And right now, the Detroit police are handing out fliers saying, "Enter at your own risk."

The lesson is, you never know when you'll suddenly find yourself in the wrong place. So if you can carry a gun, why would you not carry one?

SharpsDressedMan
October 7, 2012, 10:03 PM
After carrying a gun for over 30 years, i don't view my mental condition as fearful, paranoid, macho, etc. I have developed a strong proficiency with firearms and knowledge of WHEN to use them, too. I view packing a concealed weapon to be a more noble aspect of civic duty. I am prepared to intervene if someone innocent is being threatened by someone not so innocent. I am extremely confident, and I also believe that confidence is born of experience and wisdom from the years. I believe that most citizens ought to consider being armed, as a deterent to crime. Instead of viewing law abiding armed citrizens as abnormal, the public should see us as citizens that go beyond normal civic duty, with intent to protect us all. I don't ask for a medal; nor do I expect to be persecuted for carrying with honorable intent.

Kylaen
October 7, 2012, 10:31 PM
SharpsDressedMan, I agree with everything you just said. That is what I hope will come of my eventual law enforcement training. Thank you.

gspn
October 7, 2012, 10:33 PM
So you are 24 years old and you dont understand why people lock doors on their homes?

Furthermore you are taking your parents experience with no breakins and extrapolating that to the entire population?

You need to get out more...read more...learn more. Seriously...that is one of the more naive posts i think ive read.

Sam1911
October 7, 2012, 10:36 PM
Seems like there's a lot of misspeaking, misreading, and misdirected anger here. I think the question is pretty well answered, so let's move on to other topics for now.

Write as clearly as possible. Read twice before you post.

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