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ArchAngelCD
October 8, 2012, 11:05 PM
I may change over from carrying a revolver to a semi-auto. That's right, the Earth is going to turn backwards!

Even though I have always felt well armed carrying a revolver things are changing around here and there are several gangs moving in to the nearby bigger cities. That added to the impending reports of doom on Dec 21st, well, a semi-auto or two just might be in line!

I'm thinking of buying a SIG P226 Mk25 (http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-mk25.aspx) as a main sidearm and a newly released SIG P938 (http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-equinox.aspx) as a BUG. The Mk25 holds 15+1 9mm rounds and the P938 holds 6+1 9mm rounds. I just might get those 2 pistols if I can scrape up the money without selling too many of my other guns.

My second or fallback plan is to go with S&W. I'm thinking about buying a S&W M&P9 and the S&W M&P Shield, both in 9mm. That combination will cost me about half of what the SIG combo will but then again, those aren't SIG's. The Shield comes with a 7 round flush fit 7rd magazine and a slightly longer 8rd magazine. It's a true M&P but with a single stack magazine and it's thin...

Any comments or suggestions are welcome but hurry before the Earth's orbit changes! LOL

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Droid noob
October 8, 2012, 11:24 PM
Just use your revolver as your bug. Sounds like your familiar with the platform. I have carried the Shield and it's the most comfortable of all. It's so thin.

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tarosean
October 8, 2012, 11:36 PM
That added to the impending reports of doom on Dec 21st, well, a semi-auto or two just might be in line!

How is a revolver or semi gonna stop the Apocalypse?

I'm not so sure bullets will even work, like computers after Y2K...

Can't go wrong with either choice thou

ArchAngelCD
October 8, 2012, 11:44 PM
How is a revolver or semi gonna stop the Apocalypse?
It can't stop the Apocalypse but if we are still around I will need a lot of ammo on tap with fast reloads to stop the Zombies for getting to me and the family! :neener:

David E
October 9, 2012, 12:14 AM
I vote for the M&P pair. Same trigger, same manual of arms between them. Can't say that about the two Sigs cited.

Use the savings to buy mags and ammo.

DNS
October 9, 2012, 12:23 AM
I carry a five shot revolver myself. I just started carrying a medium sized backpack with extra ammo, leatherman, extra knife, stone, extra meds, and some odds and ends. I admit its mostly left in the car if I'm at work or out but its always close.

Something tells me its a good idea.;)

sgt127
October 9, 2012, 12:49 AM
Another combo to consider is a Glock 19 and a Kahr PM9. I carry a revolver alot off duty, a 3" 65. Theres just something reassuring about a good revolver. But, often, especially if I am travelling by air, the Glock 19 and Kahr combo goes along. One box of ammo to feed both, high cap if I want, super easy to conceal and carry Kahr if I choose.

firesky101
October 9, 2012, 01:24 AM
I typically carry an EAA witness of 18+1 capacity. I have a KLCR as a BUG. I carry it in case of malfunction or loss of primary arm, I doubt I will be in a gunfight long enough to expend nearly 20 rounds.

Doc3402
October 9, 2012, 07:48 AM
I'm going to speed up that orbit change. I never thought I would say this, but for what you want to do I would go with Glah... Gul... Dang it! Glock. There, I said it.

I've had the M&P and it was very nice, if lacking in personality. I held a 9mm Shield once but they have since become extremely rare around here. The advantage Glock has over them is once they are broken in you have the ability to load the magazines without a magazine loader. With my hand strength I can't say that about the M&P.

The Glock will probably price out slightly higher than the Smith options, but much cheaper than the Sigs. It's also easier to get night sights put on them than it would be the Smiths, but the Sigs come with them.

If Glock is not what you want, and I can certainly understand that with the love them or leave them audience they enjoy, the Smiths would be the way I would go.

xnmw
October 9, 2012, 08:48 AM
Glock 17 and 26 share 17 magazines. Of your choices I would get the S&Ws. Or, more likely, shop for a full size semiauto and keep your revolver as the BUG.
In your position, shouldn't you be shopping long guns? :D

Manny
October 9, 2012, 09:06 AM
Massad Ayoob recommends a Snubby as backup to a semi and with good reason I think. Simple manual of arms and especially if hammerless, a better shape for drawing from a pocket.

That MK25 looks like an outstanding pistol, though I don't like DA/SA semi's.

SouthernYankee
October 9, 2012, 09:41 AM
Go with what fits your hand best, Big difference between a Sig and the S&W's in how they feel. Me, I know they are more expensive, but I love SIG's. Good luck

XTrooper
October 9, 2012, 10:36 AM
I may change over from carrying a revolver to a semi-auto. That's right, the Earth is going to turn backwards!

Even though I have always felt well armed carrying a revolver things are changing around here and there are several gangs moving in to the nearby bigger cities. That added to the impending reports of doom on Dec 21st, well, a semi-auto or two just might be in line!

I'm thinking of buying a SIG P226 Mk25 (http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p226-mk25.aspx) as a main sidearm and a newly released SIG P938 (http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-equinox.aspx) as a BUG. The Mk25 holds 15+1 9mm rounds and the P938 holds 6+1 9mm rounds. I just might get those 2 pistols if I can scrape up the money without selling too many of my other guns.

My second or fallback plan is to go with S&W. I'm thinking about buying a S&W M&P9 and the S&W M&P Shield, both in 9mm. That combination will cost me about half of what the SIG combo will but then again, those aren't SIG's. The Shield comes with a 7 round flush fit 7rd magazine and a slightly longer 8rd magazine. It's a true M&P but with a single stack magazine and it's thin...

Any comments or suggestions are welcome but hurry before the Earth's orbit changes! LOL
Though I prefer H&K pistols, you can't go wrong with either of the possible choices you mention. I've owned SIGs and Smith & Wesson M&Ps and I would trust my life with either. As a testament to this, I just bought my daughter a Smith M&P9c.

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2012, 01:15 AM
Another combo to consider is a Glock 19 and a Kahr PM9. I carry a revolver alot off duty, a 3" 65. Theres just something reassuring about a good revolver. But, often, especially if I am travelling by air, the Glock 19 and Kahr combo goes along. One box of ammo to feed both, high cap if I want, super easy to conceal and carry Kahr if I choose.
As you can guess I also carry a revolver and have done so ever since i was "allowed" to carry.

As for a Glock, the only way I would shoot a Glock is if it was the only gun available and the Zombies were within 10 feet of me!! :p
Sorry, I just do not like Glocks AT ALL...

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2012, 01:18 AM
In your position, shouldn't you be shopping long guns? :D
Thanks for the thought but I have that covered quite well thank you... ;)

JEB
October 10, 2012, 02:20 AM
of the two listed i would go with the sig combo. they are very nice guns and the SA trigger on the 938 should be a BIG help in the way of accurate shooting with such a small gun.

JERRY
October 10, 2012, 02:34 AM
nobody sticks around to see who gets shot next.....but carry what makes you feel better.

Alaska444
October 10, 2012, 03:01 AM
I carry a five shot revolver myself. I just started carrying a medium sized backpack with extra ammo, leatherman, extra knife, stone, extra meds, and some odds and ends. I admit its mostly left in the car if I'm at work or out but its always close.

Something tells me its a good idea.;)
+1, extra ammo no matter what you carry is the name of the game. I likewise carry a 5 shot revolver as my primary carry. Hopefully never need to put it to the test, but for the most likely CCW scenarios, it should be enough.

The Lone Haranguer
October 10, 2012, 08:17 AM
I'm thinking of buying a SIG P226 Mk25 as a main sidearm and a newly released SIG P938 as a BUG.
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you can transition from a double-action with a decocker to a single-action with a thumb safety that has to be disengaged first.

XTrooper
October 10, 2012, 08:59 AM
nobody sticks around to see who gets shot next.....but carry what makes you feel better.
Don't ever bet your life on that.

MCgunner
October 10, 2012, 09:30 AM
I've got both. I get in a revolver mood now and then and if I can belt carry, I really like the .357 magnum from a 3" or longer barrel. It's a butt kicker. :D But, I will carry my .38 snub, too, when the mood strikes. All my guns have one thing in common, no safeties, fire DA at LEAST on the first shot. My .45 is a decock only Ruger. My pocket subcompact 9 is a DAO. I occasionally carry a little Radom P64 which is a DA gun, but I rarely carry that one.

Hey, I can live with both platforms! :D

340PD
October 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
Shoot, field strip, and re-assemble the 938 before you buy it. Nice gun, but there are a lot of other options for a lot less money. Short barrel semi's do have their limitations. Racking slides, jam's,ammo sensitive, etc. This is coming from a guy that owns abd carrys a Shield, Kahr PM9, or Seecamp LWS .32. All function perfectly but s**t happens.

The 226 is a great gun and with a Mec-Gar mag, will hold a couple more rounds and they are totally reliable. If I was confronted by a gang and needed lots of firepower, the SIG is for me. My Shield is also a great gun but not a pocket gun. If your revolver is a small one, keep it as your BUG. Also you can save a lot of money by buying a older W.German 226 and get arguably one of the best firearms ever made. The only difference is the lack of night sights. Cutting your replacement needs to one gun will let you look at the SIG catalog in a whole new light if you want a new one.

warhwkbb
October 10, 2012, 04:15 PM
A full sized and a compact that can share magazines has merit.

David E
October 10, 2012, 06:28 PM
In 45 years of intense study, I have found exactly zero cases of a US citizen needing to HIT more than 2 attackers....

How many cases have you actually looked at in those 45 years?

JERRY
October 10, 2012, 06:54 PM
How many cases have you actually looked at in those 45 years?


ive looked at a few, and the only two i can think of off the top of my head where two bad guys were shot from not drive bys were when their co-criminal was shot and they tried to help them get up and got shot too.

i cant think of a shooting im familiar with where one bad guy was shot and his buddy kept going on the attack and had to be shot too. hell, even the hollywood bank robbers with body armor were trying to get away from the firefight. but i wasnt involved in that one.

David E
October 10, 2012, 09:38 PM
ive looked at a few......

i cant think of a shooting im familiar with......

No disrespect, but having only "looked at a few" in one hour or 45 years hardly qualifies one as an expert on the subject.

Doc3402
October 10, 2012, 09:55 PM
If things like that interest you, you should study the shootouts during the Prohibition years. I find them very interesting and very telling.

One of my favorites is the Hawthorne Inn shooting. Good planning, great diversion, ample manpower, shotguns, sub-machine guns, handguns and a restaurant with around 60 people in it including Al Capone. The ultimate drive by shooting except for one thing.

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you can transition from a double-action with a decocker to a single-action with a thumb safety that has to be disengaged first.
That was a concern when I looked at that combination. I'm guessing the P938 would be a better companion to a 1911. That just might prevent me from buying the P938. I just might buy the Mk25 and use my current carry S&W M442 as a BUG. (although I would like ammo compatibility)

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
CAN WE PLEASE TRY TO STAY ON TOPIC AND NOT ARGUE ABOUT WHO KNOWS WHAT ABOUT SHOOTING MULTIPLE ASSAILANTS OVER THE PAST 45 YEARS!

I'm asking about pistols, nothing else so lets not degrade into another pissing contest. Lets talk about SIGs, M&Ps or a different set of pistols. Thank you all so far...

JERRY
October 10, 2012, 10:48 PM
David e, i either investigated them or helped investigate them. I didnt read about them on the internet, BUT I WONT CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT AT ALL.

AS FOR ARCHANGEL, CARRY WHAT YOU FEEL SUITS YOU, YOUR SITUATION, YOUR SKILL.....

David E
October 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
David e, i either investigated them or helped investigate them.....

Well, that's an important tidbit you left out!

ArchAngel, I cited the same concern about different manual of arms regarding the Sigs waaaay back at Post #5, which you ignored until Post #29 where you responded to someone else raising the same concern in Post #19.

I echo Jerry's advice: pick what you want.

ritepath
October 10, 2012, 11:10 PM
Sounds like a pretty good plan....unless...

You wanted to go with a p229 instead.

A friend picked up a 938 about a month ago...what a sweet pistol.

Madcap_Magician
October 10, 2012, 11:14 PM
I don't believe there actually IS a double action/single action semiauto that actually qualifies as 'compact' and is comparable to the SIG manual of arms. The SIG 239 or the Beretta 92 Compact are probably the closest, and they're both Glock 19+ size, for half the ammo in the former case.

So it might be pretty hard to find a matching backup gun to a P226. CZ makes some compact-ish DA/SA guns, though.

sgt127
October 10, 2012, 11:53 PM
As for a Glock, the only way I would shoot a Glock is if it was the only gun available and the Zombies were within 10 feet of me!!
Sorry, I just do not like Glocks AT ALL...

Eh...
I can't disagree. The only reason I decided that Glocks are OK is because I was allowed to carry any handgun I wanted, as long as it was the issued Glock 35 and after 11 years, my newly issued Glock 22. Every two weeks a paycheck showed up, so, I couldn't really bitch too much about the gun.

Glocks are just kind of really good tools. But, thats really all they have going for them. If it needs to go bang with pretty good reliability, they do that well. Personality? Pretty much zero. Class? Not really. Ergonomics? Well, not really again.

So, I can't really fault you for wanting a personal gun that tickles your fancy a little more, I understand. And, you did qualify it with the whole zombie attacking thing, so, you kind of admit they generally work pretty well. :)

ArchAngelCD
October 10, 2012, 11:54 PM
Well, that's an important tidbit you left out!

ArchAngel, I cited the same concern about different manual of arms regarding the Sigs waaaay back at Post #5, which you ignored until Post #29 where you responded to someone else raising the same concern in Post #19.

I echo Jerry's advice: pick what you want.
So first off you need a pat on the back for mentioning something first? I thought better of you.

Second, you are actually getting upset because I didn't want anyone arguing in a thread I started? (along with Jerry)

I can't believe this is happening again! I rarely start a thread because crap like this always happens. Grow up and don't get so offended and then get nasty when someone calls you on it.

Mods, please close this thread. It's just not worth the headaches and childishness just to talk about a few pistols!

sgt127
October 11, 2012, 12:00 AM
I might add, I've got several Sigs. I think very highly of them. If I were going to do what you want to do, I would get the P226 and a P239. Both in the same caliber, either DAK or traditional DA/SA but, the same for both. I think that would make a dandy package.

David E
October 11, 2012, 01:32 AM
So first off you need a pat on the back for mentioning something first? I thought better of you.

No, but it does show me that you're not reading the responses you asked to receive.

Second, you are actually getting upset because I didn't want anyone arguing in a thread I started? (along with Jerry)

I don't get upset over Internet threads.

I do refer you to my response above.

Al Thompson
October 11, 2012, 06:21 AM
Closed per OP's request.

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