The back-up, to the back-up knife, to the BUG


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rcmodel
October 9, 2012, 09:54 PM
O.K.
Just thinking out loud tonight.

How about an unobtrusive, legal, butterfly ice-pick as a backup to your back-up knife??
One that no-one could accuse you of being an ice-pick, or a dangerous weapon of choice?
It's just a sharpening steel, O.K.??

I give you the DMT DiafoldŽ Serrated Sharpener (Blue course).
The (Red - Fine) & (Green - Extra Fine) are too fine for most everyday sharpening.

http://www.dmtsharp.com/sharpeners/folding-models/diafold-serrated/#

http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/DMTFCS7C/DMT-FCS7C-732-inch-Diafold-Diamond-Chain-Saw-File-Coarse

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/DMT1.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/DMT2.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/DMY3.jpg

This thing weighs next to nothing, and puts an edge with just enough bite to shave with, on just about anything made of steel, in short order.

Even Attila the Hun would not be able to pull it out and shrug it off, if it was stuck in his temple up to the handles I betcha.

rc

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hso
October 9, 2012, 10:37 PM
Ice picks are more of an assassin's weapons instead of a defensive weapon. The reason being that they do very little damage unless applied to very specific small targets. That mean the victim has to be pretty much unawares or otherwise restrained to get to those specific small targets.

I sure wouldn't hesitate to use a sharpener like that as a defensive tool, but a Bic stick pen is easier to carry and would do the same job without attracting any attention.

rcmodel
October 9, 2012, 11:14 PM
I fully understand what ice picks are capable of, and how they are used.

But still, I wouldn't want one stuck in my chest and wiggled around, or up my nose hole to the hilt by someone who couldn't access or legally carry his "any other weapon".

All I was saying is, if you want to carry a knife sharpener in addition to your EDC knife?

Might as well be that one right there!

rc

zhyla
October 11, 2012, 03:27 PM
legal

Eh... I would hesitate there. I can see a path thru CA weapon regulations that a DA could use to claim this is a "dirk".

USAF_Vet
October 11, 2012, 04:38 PM
I would bet Michigan would have a similar outlook on that. I've got one myself, but wouldn't consider carrying it. With a gun and a knife, if I ever had to use it, it would look very questionable.

9mmepiphany
October 11, 2012, 09:16 PM
To avoid any gray area when dealing with LE, I'd also advise that if you really want something like this that a plain BIC ballpoint pen would be a better choice

icanthitabarn
October 12, 2012, 06:16 PM
I think RC made a good point and no one is playing. :)

rcmodel
October 12, 2012, 09:00 PM
Like I said, it's a freaking diamond sharpening tool.
A TOOL to sharpen other tools with!!!

If you had to use it for a back-up, to a back-up knife, to the back-up gun?

Well, you probably got more serious things to worry about then what the law calls it, if you survived.

rc

hso
October 13, 2012, 12:17 PM
Just thinking out loud tonight.

How about an unobtrusive, legal, butterfly ice-pick as a backup to your back-up knife??
One that no-one could accuse you of being an ice-pick, or a dangerous weapon of choice?

RC,

You brought it up as a weapon and not as a simple sharpening tool. Others have taken issue with that idea. That's the nature of discussions about stealth weapons.

Madcap_Magician
October 13, 2012, 11:32 PM
I would certainly avoid using it to pick my nose.

USAF_Vet
October 14, 2012, 02:17 AM
Like I said, it's a freaking diamond sharpening tool.
A TOOL to sharpen other tools with!!!

If you had to use it for a back-up, to a back-up knife, to the back-up gun?

Well, you probably got more serious things to worry about then what the law calls it, if you survived.

rc
I hear you, RC.

However, I'll relent that in a complete 'Holy Cow I'm in a bad situation' situation, it would be a decent fourth string weapon. But, I try like hell to avoid those situation whenever and where ever possible. If my situational awareness has failed so badly that I find myself in Beirut or Benghazi, I made a wrong turn a long way back. ;)

JERRY
October 14, 2012, 02:59 AM
id prefer an edge weapon that can both stab and slice.

JimStC
October 14, 2012, 08:59 AM
Jerry,
Initially I felt the same as you. Then I got to thinking about the "raking" Eskrima strikes. This tool could effectively be used for a raking strike across the forehead which would, in short order, affect the sight of the opponent.
RC I get the dual purpose characterization. Sorta like the huge wrench on my truck floorboard and the pry bar and the.........

Jim

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