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jrbaker90
October 10, 2012, 12:35 AM
anybody has any custom h&r handi? I have been thinking about one for awhile and just was wanting to know if anybody else has custom one thanks

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303tom
October 10, 2012, 11:00 AM
I have almost a dozen of them, what do you mean by (custom) ???????????

RPRNY
October 10, 2012, 11:23 AM
It is the source of allure for an otherwise rather mundane firearm.

The construction of the Handi Rifle barrels and SB2 receivers allows safe chamber pressures of up to 65,000psi. The Handi is your oyster. Not only can you rechamber an existing barrel at home with a rented reamer (.357 Max being a popular example, my own .454 Stutzen another), rebore and rechamber in a wide variety of options (I have a 35-30/30 project on the burner) but with barrel stubbing (use of a shotgun barrel stub to seat a custom or take-off barrel from virtually any other rifle you can imagine) you can resurrect the 8mm Lebel, wildcat the 6.5x74R, or invent the .50 Annihilator.

Here's my .454 Stutzen. It started life as a Classic Carbine in 45LC, was reamed to .454 and I built a Mannlicher style full stock for it.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/LRDG/Turkey/454%20Stutzen%20Build/001-5.jpg

303tom
October 10, 2012, 03:39 PM
Now that`s cool, might have to try something like that with one of mine............

jrbaker90
October 10, 2012, 05:34 PM
rprny that is what i am talking about i love that stock! I am just thinking about one in 7x57 or 257 roberts or my favorite 6.5 creedmoor just dont know. I have a good gunsmith that's would do the work thanks

RPRNY
October 10, 2012, 07:11 PM
I am just thinking about one in 7x57 or 257 roberts or my favorite 6.5 creedmoor just dont know

All great choices. As I said, anything below 65K psi is safe in the SB2. I prefer rebore to stubbing because I like to maintain the barrel contour, but stubbing seems a cheaper option.

If you choose something in the .35 - .38 Cal range, I highly recommend JES Reboring. Jesse has done quite a few Handis and is universally well regarded as well as cost effective. http://www.35caliber.com/

Walkalong
October 10, 2012, 07:12 PM
Now that`s coolSure is. Very nice.

johnnydollar
October 10, 2012, 10:24 PM
D&T Custom Rifles out of Vinita, Ok does some of the nicest customized Handi-Rifles around. They specialize in barrel stubbing.

jrbaker90
October 10, 2012, 11:59 PM
What I am want one for is a light woods gun I have a 30-06 and a 243 abolt action and just needing a good reason to get another. I like the 6.5 caliber also have looked at the 6.5x55 swiss mauser thanks

303tom
October 11, 2012, 12:32 AM
What I am want one for is a light woods gun I have a 30-06 and a 243 abolt action and just needing a good reason to get another. I like the 6.5 caliber also have looked at the 6.5x55 swiss mauser thanks
The 6.5x55 is Swede, not Swiss.................The 7.5x55 is the Swiss.

conhntr
October 11, 2012, 06:24 AM
Ive been thinking about building a superultra light handi rifle.

Eithe a 357 or maybe 30-30 cut down to 16"-- maybe even have barrel flutted/ lighten stock a bit. Put on a peep sight, i think i can end up in the mid 4lb range. I have had much more luck with them in rimmed catridges/ definently stay away from anynchambered in 243!

jrbaker90
October 11, 2012, 03:03 PM
I have also thought about 338-06 or the 338 federal. how would a 260 remington? Like I said before I want one for wood and some mountain hunts I will be mosty around here (west tn) but I would like to used in northeast arkansas to. would love to have one with a with a 20 inch barrel thanks

mnrivrat
October 12, 2012, 06:08 AM
definently stay away from anynchambered in 243!

OK - I'll bite Reason ?

conhntr
October 12, 2012, 06:18 AM
Mine wasnt unique in that a cleaning rod was required to knock empties out ~30% of the time!

RPRNY
October 12, 2012, 09:44 PM
As per above, Handis in 243 have not been particularly loved. For whatever reason, tight chambers, short throats, just not a success. As a single shot breech loader, they tend to do best with rimmed cartridges. 30-30's are renowned for accuracy. The 35 Whelen and 7mm-08 are very well regarded. I had a 30-06 that shot very well.

Win73
October 13, 2012, 01:51 AM
I have a Handi Rifle in .30-06. I shoot 150 grain Remington Corelokt in it. I have fired it nine times at deer ranging from 25 to 125 yards and killed nine deer. I have never had any problem with it ejecting the empty case. I have a buttstock shell carrier on it and can reload almost as fast as with a bolt action.

mnrivrat
October 13, 2012, 03:10 AM
Mine wasnt unique in that a cleaning rod was required to knock empties out ~30% of the time!

Thanks for reply. I had not heard of that problem. I have had a couple in 223 and my friend has a 243 that hasn't displayed that problem. The extraction of rimless cases do require that special feature built into the extractor and perhaps had something to do with your particular gun . I'm not sure why it would be caliber sensitive however ? Interesting observation at any rate.

black_powder_Rob
October 13, 2012, 08:06 AM
I recently got me a handi in 223 and love it so far no extraction problems yet. When I did my research the problems removing the spent shells was with the spring ejectors. Some claimed that if the springs got too dirty or too much oil that they would not work properly. I personally have not seen this as I have the extractor type on my rifle.

josiewales
October 13, 2012, 09:00 AM
I have a friend that has one in .243 and loves it!

303tom
October 13, 2012, 09:41 AM
I have never had a extraction problems (yet), I do keep my chambers buffed...........

osprey176
October 13, 2012, 02:58 PM
303tom,do you do your own trigger work on your Handi-rifles?I have a .243 that shoots pretty well,but the trigger is awful on a good day.Would like to do it myself but would consider farming it out.

Arkansas Paul
October 13, 2012, 03:53 PM
I really like the stock and forearm in the above pic, but I'm not a fan of the Handis.
Mine is in .280 which is my favorite caliber. I bought it and had a very hard time finding ammo that it would group. Finally I found one it liked, Winchester ballistic Silvertips. At thi point I liked the rifle. Then I started hand loading and I've spent a couple hundred bucks trying to find a load it likes. Then I realized another issue. The headspace is awful. Two loadings usually result in complete case head separation.
I'm thinking about selling the damn thing because I've grown to loath it.
Sorry for the rant. I really do like your stock an full length forearm RPRNY.

riomedinamike
October 13, 2012, 10:02 PM
I had a 223, 243, 308, 30-30, 357, and 44 Mag.

Yes they were ejector rather than extractor models.

I got tired of H&R/NEF telling me I did not clean my chamber, was using out of spec ammo, the ejector was dirty, they had "never heard of this problem", etc, etc, etc. I sent one rifle in for warranty work three times, and it never did work. And NEF made me pay for the shipping.

I have their shotguns in all gauges, too many to count, and I have never had an ejector problem, ever.

Sold all the rifles, and I will never buy a rifle from them again.

RPRNY
October 13, 2012, 10:28 PM
I had a 223, 243, 308, 30-30, 357, and 44 Mag.

Yes they were ejector rather than extractor models.

I got tired of H&R/NEF telling me I did not clean my chamber, was using out of spec ammo, the ejector was dirty, they had "never heard of this problem", etc, etc, etc. I sent one rifle in for warranty work three times, and it never did work. And NEF made me pay for the shipping.

I have their shotguns in all gauges, too many to count, and I have never had an ejector problem, ever.

Sold all the rifles, and I will never buy a rifle from them again.

I like Handi rifles. I like H&R Shotguns. Lots of people do. But...I don't think the poster above is unique in his frustration. Handis are not for everyone. If you like tinkering and are inured to post purchase FreedomGroup customer service, or can do some basic basement gunsmithing, then go for it. If you want a no hassle, works as intended out of the box rifle: Winchester (FN), Ruger American, TC Venture, Savage Axis, and several others will more likely make you happy at similar price points.

PO2Hammer
October 13, 2012, 10:31 PM
I'll agree that they do best with rimmed cartridges. My older 22" 30-30 .357 .410 bore ejector model is real sweet and very accurate out to 100 yards with my lead handloads in .357 and 30-30, but it is a bit on the heavy side.
Check out Frank Churches mod's (http://www.milesfortis.com/church/akc02.htm).
My newer .45 Colt classic carbine is much lighter and is a real hoot to shoot. Shoots a wide variety of power levels from quiet round balls to some serious thumpers. Quite a few people have reamed these out to .454 Casull. (not me)
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo205/FF1063/ff%201063/HR.jpg

RPRNY
October 14, 2012, 07:28 PM
What a great looking Classic! My 45LC/454 Stutzen shoots 185 gr cast lead over Trail Boss okay but loves the heavies: 250 FTX & 300 gr XTP over hot H110. It seems to eat just about anything. Groups with the 185s and TB are fairly open (3" at 100 yds) but the FTX and XTP loads (particularly in hot Casull loads) are generally 1.5" at 100 yds.

I've been meaning to look into rifle powder loads for these to see if there is additional benefit from having the 20" barrel. Not sure how to go about it though. Big bore, medium burn rate?

PO2Hammer
October 16, 2012, 07:53 PM
Thanks, I love that little gun.
I don't go any faster burning than Unique or Universal with lead.
Your H110 loads sound about perfect for hot rodding a Colt carbine/rifle. I've never tried rifle powders, I don't think there would be enough gain.

BTW, 3" at 100 ain't half bad for the .45 Colt and light bullets.

I've been doing a lot of plinking with the 200 Hornady LSWC over 7 grains of Trail Boss (pictured) and the Hornady .454" round ball seated deep over 3 grains of Trail Boss in un-sized cases. The SWC's will do 1" at 50 yds, and the round balls surprised me by doing 3" at the same distance. At 25 yards they are 1 hole accurate from a rest. Not as quiet as I had hoped though, but still far quieter than any other load.

I lube all my lead bullets with liquid alox and also butter the bore with it. The SWC's also get a .452" X .060" vegetable fiber wad at the base (not down on the powder). Smoke and leading are non-existent and the bore cleans up with a few patches wet with mineral spirits.

My next trial will be with 230 LRN (Hornady of course) to take advantage of their much better aerodynamics (compared to the SWC's). I think they should do a little better at 100 yards and have an improved trajectory.

Have fun.

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