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menotseeu
October 10, 2012, 08:11 PM
Hello everyone. I'm not sure if this goes in this section, but it was the only one that seemed appropriate.

I bought a very nice unmolested example of a HRA Garand. All marked parts are HRA. As near as I can tell all the unmarked parts appear to be HRA. Stock is HRA, and is as it came out of the armory, very dark color to this one, with the DAS lightly stamped, non-serifed P. All metal shows very little wear in the usual areas that lose finish first. I would say 99%. It still had some cosmoline inside bottom of front hand guard. Throat is just a fuzz over 2, correct muzzle a little over 1. Bore looks great. I’m not sure if this one was ever fired after the initial firing, and put in the armory. The receiver by serial number is 1955. The barrel also is HRS and dated 1955.
When I picked up the rifle from my FFL/gunsmith, he told me I got a very, very nice rifle. He said it was CMP. I asked him how he knew because there is no paperwork saying such. He said, I know CMP’s and trust me, this is CMP. He was actually more excited about the gun than I was. He asked what I had paid, then told me I got it for a steal. Said, whoever sold the rifle had no idea what he had, or the value of what he had. This rifle also has, on the bottom (flat side) of the pistol grip an X-3 which I have been told is a Greek Return. It also has a four digit serial number in the right side of the stock. I assume the Greeks put that there as well.
The cartouche on the left side is hardly visible. I’m putting a picture up of it. I’m not sure how he got it to show as well as he did, because it took me a magnifying glass to see it. The stock is extremely rough, and extremely dark.
Now for the question. If I had the stock professionally refinished/restored and had the one cartouche re-stamped, would it loose its collector’s valve? Any suggestion from you pro’s out there as to what I can do to make it look better?
Any information about this gun would be extremely helpful to me.
Thanks in advanced!

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Coltdriver
October 10, 2012, 08:51 PM
Why don't you just get a replacement stock and have it finished to your hearts desire? Preserve your original stock. If you sell the rifle later, put the original back on and sell your replacement stock separately.

Jim K
October 10, 2012, 11:25 PM
I am not sure how much collector value an H&R M1 really has or that what is left of the DAS has to be preserved at all costs. I would say it is a shooter, and to refinish the stock as you wish.

Jim

VPLthrneck
October 11, 2012, 03:19 AM
Why don't you just get a replacement stock and have it finished to your hearts desire? Preserve your original stock. If you sell the rifle later, put the original back on and sell your replacement stock separately.

Ditto's on this.

Also I'd contact the CMP and see if you can get any more info. If you give them the serial number they can at least tell you if it went through them at some point in its life.

menotseeu
October 11, 2012, 08:12 PM
Also I'd contact the CMP and see if you can get any more info. If you give them the serial number they can at least tell you if it went through them at some point in its life.

Thanks for that info. I emailed CMP and the rifle is indeed a collector grade CMP.
I just need to send them $25.00 for the certificate. Thanks

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