S&W Model 10 - Grip Attachment


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Captains1911
October 10, 2012, 07:43 PM
What is the plastic thing in front of the grip seen in this photo? How does it attach?

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/310834000/310834195/pix205677020.jpg

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skt239
October 10, 2012, 08:10 PM
That's a Tyler T grip and it is used to give the skinny grips more purchase. They were very popular for a while, especially on J-frames.

Captains1911
October 10, 2012, 08:27 PM
If the adapter is removed, is it likely that the frame will show uneven wear marks from it?

skt239
October 10, 2012, 08:50 PM
I've never used one but I've read they are simple to install. I think it might be as basic as snapping on. I don't think they would leave to much of a mark considering where they connect but I could be wrong. Someone will chime in with more info.

doc2rn
October 10, 2012, 08:53 PM
I have bought a few S&W mod 10s with those Tyler T grips on them. I dont like them so I usually just take them off and cover the whole grip with a Hogue grip.

royal barnes
October 10, 2012, 08:53 PM
The T Grips are held in place by two copper tabs, one on each side, that fit on the frame and are held in place by the grip panels. I have used Tylers on various guns for years and have never seen wear marks, even or uneven, on the frame.

They are still popular with those who want a more hand filling grip on their handgun without resorting to the large combat style grips or those "awful rubber thingies" by Hogue or Pachmayr.:barf:

Iggy
October 10, 2012, 09:03 PM
http://www.t-grips.com/TGrips.html

rcmodel
October 10, 2012, 09:09 PM
They were very popular for a while, especially on J-frames.They are still popular today, with folks who know what works!!

Just try finding a used one at a gun show sometime!!

When Mr. Tyler died a few years ago, there was uncertainty as to whether or not they would ever be made again.

Prices went through the roof, and where you used to see cigar boxes full of them, now you can't find even one.

Fortunately, Mr. Tylers son begin producing them again a year or two ago.

rc

Captains1911
October 10, 2012, 09:15 PM
thanks everyone, I just bought the gun on gunbroker:) I'll be removing the adapter, if anybody wants it let me know.

ETA: the adapter is taken

royal barnes
October 11, 2012, 09:51 AM
Try shooting it with the T Grip in place. You may decide to keep it.;)

Captains1911
October 11, 2012, 10:42 AM
Try shooting it with the T Grip in place. You may decide to keep it.;)
I bought this gun a collector piece, not a shooter, and I don't like the way it looks with the adapter. Trust me, I'm not usually a form over function guy, but I am with this particular gun.

1madss
October 11, 2012, 10:52 AM
I'll take the t-grip if you are not going to use it. PM me and we can work out the details.

Thanks

Drail
October 11, 2012, 11:47 AM
Grip adaptors are absolute proof the S&W doesn't have a freaking clue about proper grip design.:scrutiny:

Captains1911
October 11, 2012, 01:15 PM
The grip adapter is spoken for, thanks guys.

ATLDave
October 11, 2012, 01:32 PM
Grip adaptors are absolute proof that what worked for many shooters in 1899, when that grip came into production, and when the dominant mode of shooting was one-handed bullseye-style shooting doesn't necessarily work for all shooters today.:scrutiny:

There, fixed that for ya'. ;)

moonman16
October 11, 2012, 02:30 PM
Try Googling BKGrips.

They attach with 2 clips instead of Tyler-T's one.

They ship very fast compared to Tylers.

Some claim the revolver frame and grip adapters matching fit is also better.

I have 3 BK's and no Tylers.

Cocked & Locked
October 11, 2012, 09:37 PM
Tyler T-grip fan here! They are aluminum...not plastic.

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6263277/402892409.jpg

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http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6486421/398335687.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6486421/328391445.jpg

Cocked & Locked
October 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
continued...

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6486421/299351744.jpg

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sgtstryker
October 11, 2012, 09:40 PM
I have a T grip on my 640 and on a Model 10. Yep, they are sorta nostalgic but they do work.. Wow, just saw the above photos, very nice..

Driftwood Johnson
October 11, 2012, 10:06 PM
Howdy

I don't remember where I picked up this Tyler T Grip, but I installed it on my Model 36. I don't much care for modern rubber grips, so I like the T-Grip much better. Works real well with a small frame 38.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/smith%20and%20wesson/model3601.jpg

Doc3402
October 12, 2012, 06:47 AM
I would try it with the Tyler adapter first. I've never seen one hurt the gun, and it allows you to keep a smaller profile grip on the firearm for concealment.

Captains1911
October 12, 2012, 09:01 AM
I would try it with the Tyler adapter first. I've never seen one hurt the gun, and it allows you to keep a smaller profile grip on the firearm for concealment.
Read #11 above.

Doc3402
October 12, 2012, 09:12 AM
Got it. I wish you had mentioned that in #1. We could have let all those poor electrons rest. <grin>

Cocked & Locked
October 12, 2012, 09:33 AM
I bought this gun a collector piece, not a shooter, and I don't like the way it looks with the adapter. Trust me, I'm not usually a form over function guy, but I am with this particular gun.

I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but a 4" heavy barreled model 10 with incorrect stocks does not fall in the collector gun category. Lots of them were made and issued for many years. Maybe someday, but not today. :scrutiny:

Captains1911
October 12, 2012, 01:17 PM
I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but a 4" heavy barreled model 10 with incorrect stocks does not fall in the collector gun category. Lots of them were made and issued for many years. Maybe someday, but not today. :scrutiny:
Thanks for clarifying that, I guess my ARs, 1911s, and everything else don't count as part of my gun "collection" either because there have been so many produced.:confused: Give me a break. I wanted the gun BECAUSE of its popularity, or it's iconic value if you will. Sorry if that's hard for you to understand.

Sam1911
October 12, 2012, 01:21 PM
Ok, ok. Ease up. Someone said "collector piece" which sounds a lot like "collector's item." Obviously a Model 10 isn't a "collector's item" in the traditional sense. It can certainly still be part of a collection.

No reason for this to get unpleasant.

[EDIT: LET'S DROP THAT ARGUMENT LEST THE THREAD GET CLOSED.]

Captains1911
October 12, 2012, 02:03 PM
I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but a 4" heavy barreled model 10 with incorrect stocks does not fall in the collector gun category. Lots of them were made and issued for many years. Maybe someday, but not today. :scrutiny:

What about the grips (stocks) is incorrect? Other than the adapter.

Captains1911
October 13, 2012, 09:36 AM
I'm still curious about the incorrect stocks. Thanks.

Husker_Fan
October 13, 2012, 09:47 AM
If you take the stocks off, one of them should have a number penciled on it. The stocks original to the gun will match the serial number of the gun. This was done at the factory because stocks would be sanded on the frame so they would match up then numbered so they could be put back on the right gun after final finishing.

There are a lot of variations of S&W magna stocks, and some are very subtle. The S&W experts may be able to tell that those don't belong on an HB model 10, but I can't tell you for sure.

Cocked & Locked
October 13, 2012, 10:13 AM
The serial number is more often stamped (as in pressed) into the backside of the right grip panel. Usually just the earlier guns had the serial number penciled in.

The ones on Captains1911 model 10 will be original to the gun if the numbers match. His are known as "modified magnas" or PC (plain clothes) grips since they have the rounded bottom. This style usually, but not always, were found on the shorter barrel K-frames. Size appropriate PC's were standard on the S&W N frame models 58 and the original 520.

Most 4" heavy barreled model 10's had the regular flat bottom Magna aka Service style grips.

No exact each and every time happenings with S&W revolvers though.

Captains1911
October 13, 2012, 11:02 AM
Interesting, thanks for the info, I will check for the number when I get it. Here is another photo of the grip bottom.

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/310834000/310834195/pix938730064.jpg

Cocked & Locked
October 13, 2012, 11:13 AM
No problem. In the 2nd photo it looks like your model 10 has a hole in the bottom of the grip frame? If so, it had a lanyard swivel there at one time.

You might have an interesting model 10 if the PC grips number to the gun and it originally came with a lanyard swivel!

I meant no offense in my earlier post on page #1. In reading it again I see how it was taken that way.

You have my apology Sir! :o

Captains1911
October 13, 2012, 12:32 PM
No problem. In the 2nd photo it looks like your model 10 has a hole in the bottom of the grip frame? If so, it had a lanyard swivel there at one time.

You might have an interesting model 10 if the PC grips number to the gun and it originally came with a lanyard swivel!

I meant no offense in my earlier post on page #1. In reading it again I see how it was taken that way.

You have my apology Sir! :o
No need for apologies and no offense taken, thanks again for the info. I'll update once I have the gun, hopefully early next week.

amd6547
October 13, 2012, 06:48 PM
Tyler T-grips are a fantastic addition to a shooting revolver...I like them much better than rubber grips.
It would be a shame to take a nice Model 10 and put it on a shelf without shooting it. Such a great shooter..load it with wadcutter target ammo, and it barely recoils...load it with +P SWCHP's and it makes an excellent HD weapon...all with terrific accuracy...and the combination of PC Magnas and the T-grip just fits the hand perfectly.
There is a reason the Model 10 is "iconic"...it is one of the best revolvers ever.

Frank V
October 13, 2012, 08:19 PM
Captians1911

Congratulations on a fine gun. The S&W mod. 10 was the carry gun all others were judged by for years. It was only the comming of the .357 that slowed down the popularity of the Mod. 10 & some of us think it's still one of the finest carry guns to be manufactured.
Frank

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