Remington R1 1911?
marine 97-03
October 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
So I've been looking at 1911's again and the R1 looks like its for me...why you ask...well it looks to be a quality build and will be a good base to turn it into a nice custom gun sights are dove tailed so changing them out will be a snap what's y'alls thoughts on the R1??
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TennJed
October 12, 2012, 01:00 AM
Big fan of mine. No issues in 500 or so rounds. It shoots as accurate as my FIL's Colt and Kimber
Here is mine with some Buffalo horn grips
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7360669214_d215d8c7d8_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7232/7360669508_798fd3b82c_z.jpg
BCRider
October 12, 2012, 01:53 AM
I recently bought an R1 Enhanced as my "nice" 1911 and 200'ish rounds into it I could not be happier.
It was primarily due to handling and inspecting, but not shooting, a GI style R1 that I went with the enhanced model. For the money Remington put together a rather nicely done gun.
marine 97-03
October 12, 2012, 03:04 AM
Big fan of mine. No issues in 500 or so rounds. It shoots as accurate as my FIL's Colt and Kimber
Here is mine with some Buffalo horn grips
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7244/7360669214_d215d8c7d8_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7232/7360669508_798fd3b82c_z.jpg
Nice looking pistol !
Skylerbone
October 12, 2012, 03:06 AM
Unless they've stopped over cutting the VIS and started leaving the correct gap between barrel and feed ramp I'd say pass. You'll likely have feed issues and you'll assuredly have shortened barrel life. Ditto any replacement barrel short of a ramped one.
If you want a GI style 1911 buy a 1991 Colt and be done with it.
marine 97-03
October 12, 2012, 09:27 AM
They seem real nice
Creature
October 12, 2012, 09:42 AM
Aside from the rather large rollstamp, I do like the vertical rear serratings on the slide...they look 'right'. I have never been a fan of the canted serrations seen on other 1911's.
Series 70
October 12, 2012, 10:09 AM
My son has between 500 and 1000 rounds through his so far and loves it. The only issue is with the factory mags not engaging the slide stop when empty. That happens over half the time. Wilson mags do not have that problem.
Kyle M.
October 12, 2012, 10:14 AM
My dad and I have over 5,000 rounds through his without a single malfunction. It shoots just as good as the sigs, kimbers, and paras I've had.
Skylerbone
October 12, 2012, 10:44 AM
Read if you like: http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=354434. Several responses from some of the top 1911 smiths in the world. It may be possible that Remington has addressed the problem but I wouldn't count on it.
marine 97-03
October 12, 2012, 11:07 AM
Skyler do you know if all r1 are cut like that.....and are they still doing it that way?
1858
October 12, 2012, 01:05 PM
Skyler do you know if all r1 are cut like that.....and are they still doing it that way?
Read the thread below in which I posted numerous photos and comparisons rather than ask Skylerbone. He suffers from selective memory, particularly when it comes to discussing the R1.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=659460
Skylerbone
October 12, 2012, 01:58 PM
Ah, just revisited that one. So, to reply to the stocking Remington Dealer???: if you get a new one it should be corrected but I'd certainly ask to see first. I really didn't and still don't understand the defense of an obvious flaw, even Remington took steps to amend it. Saying the new one is not much worse than a Ruger means relatively little.
Still no word on the barrel to feed ramp issue...
cyclopsshooter
October 12, 2012, 02:00 PM
skylerborn +1
1858
October 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
So, to reply to the stocking Remington Dealer???
Is that supposed to be me? I have access to more firearms than most, but I certainly don't sell them for a living. For the record, I wouldn't buy an R1 for various reasons, but I'm not going to dissuade others from buying one with inaccurate information. I'll leave that to you and all that you've read since you seem to be so good at it.
Skylerbone
October 12, 2012, 03:00 PM
Then kindly pronounce the VIS and barrel length as both good to go, call me an uninformed Internet troll who can't read the print and we'll be done discussing things here.
Now to quote my original reply with emphasis on the first word:
Unless they've stopped over cutting the VIS and started leaving the correct gap between barrel and feed ramp I'd say pass.
To the OP: I'd love to tell you the R1 is a great pistol and a great bargain to base a custom build on but I simply cannot pronounce it so. More smiths use Caspians, Colts and Springfields than any other and many will not accept any other. As my local pistolsmith worked for both the Springfield Armory Custom Shop and Les Baer I can say Colt's small parts quality is decidedly better than SA's and comparing the price differences between a forged Colt made in the USA to the other two gives me no pause in recommending a Colt for your purposes. Truth be told I could care less about the name, what I care about is a decently priced, correctly machined (frame holes, trigger track length and yes VIS) that can be modified. If you had $1,100 to spare I'd recommend a DW Herritage as a well built 1911 that looks better and is fit better than any we have discussed to now.
marine 97-03
October 12, 2012, 09:40 PM
A friend was telling me to look at a Taurus pt1911.
MachIVshooter
October 13, 2012, 11:39 AM
I picked up an R1 standard last month. I wanted a US-made GI-style 1911 with decent sights. Basically, the two contenders in this arena are the Colt and the R1. Well, I already have a Colt (MK IV stainless), the R1 has better sights, and I didn't see anything that makes the Government model worth an extra $300 over the R1.
I'm very happy with mine. I took it out of the box, wiped it down inside and out, put some clp on the contact surfaces and went shooting. It has run flawlessly thus far.
awfulkanawful
October 13, 2012, 11:43 AM
You might want to know something......The R1 is a 1911 style , but alot of parts are not interchangeable with a regular 1911 but are proprietary only to Remington R1's. Thats why I didnt buy one. Get a Ruger SR 1911 instead...Its built AS a 1911 , not some factorys version OF a 1911. RUGER got it right ! Remington got it wrong ! Just my 2 cents.
marine 97-03
October 13, 2012, 01:47 PM
what about the STI Spartan ??
JTQ
October 13, 2012, 02:50 PM
what about the STI Spartan ??
They have a good reputation.
Per your original post about the R1,
dove tailed so changing them out will be a snap
The sights on the Spartan are adjustables. It is a different sight cut than most fixed sights. If you want fixed sights at a later time there are very few options.
http://www.stiguns.com/the-sti-spartan-v-2/
TennJed
October 13, 2012, 02:52 PM
You might want to know something......The R1 is a 1911 style , but alot of parts are not interchangeable with a regular 1911 but are proprietary only to Remington R1's. Thats why I didnt buy one. Get a Ruger SR 1911 instead...Its built AS a 1911 , not some factorys version OF a 1911. RUGER got it right ! Remington got it wrong ! Just my 2 cents.
What parts are those?
awfulkanawful
October 13, 2012, 05:29 PM
The barrel for one , check it out yourself
TennJed
October 13, 2012, 06:06 PM
The barrel for one , check it out yourself
I did some searching and can't find anything. Everything I read tends to say parts are interchangeable. I am not trying to be argumentative I am honestly curious. What parts are different? What is the difference between the R1 barrel and a standard 1911 barrel?
mjsdwash
October 13, 2012, 06:22 PM
someone said not interchangeable parts? not sure how they figured that since all parts between my r1 and springfield gi seem pretty interchangeable. The extractor from the factory worked, but would not extract live rounds unless they were very very short. A hardcore extractor fixed that, no fitting, just dropped in. Thats my only complaint. The new extractor is slightly below flush, but not too bad. The Grips are very well made, and from a good pattern or wood on mine. Finish is very good. Fit could be better, but is still decent. The sights will work themselves loose after a few hundred rounds, so youll need to locktite them down when there sighted in. My barrels are interchangeable.
marine 97-03
October 14, 2012, 12:38 AM
The barrel for one , check it out yourself
I think I seen somewhere that the lugs are different ..and like skylerbone stated THE VIS is..or was cut different at one time but I think that has been corrected
MachIVshooter
October 14, 2012, 02:14 AM
I think I seen somewhere that the lugs are different
Nope. I can swap all top end parts between my Colt Mk IV and my R1 in any combination. I'm not inclined to break them down further to check additional compatibility just for curiosity's sake, though.
awfulkanawful
October 14, 2012, 09:31 AM
Ok....When I was considering buying one , the DEALER pulled two guns , stripped them down and SHOWED me the barrel being different. He said remington R1 was basicaly a clone , and Springfiels , kimber , etc were to spec......meaning all the parts were interchangeable ! They talked me out of it ! So , since Im by far NO authority , Im only going on what I was told/shown by Murphy's gun room in Tucson.......and they know their stuff ! The thing that sticks out in my mind was the lugs were diffrent , and the roller on the barrel was larger ???? I SAW it against a springfield "spec" 1911 ! Maybe they did change something ???
TennJed
October 14, 2012, 02:54 PM
Ok....When I was considering buying one , the DEALER pulled two guns , stripped them down and SHOWED me the barrel being different. He said remington R1 was basicaly a clone , and Springfiels , kimber , etc were to spec......meaning all the parts were interchangeable ! They talked me out of it ! So , since Im by far NO authority , Im only going on what I was told/shown by Murphy's gun room in Tucson.......and they know their stuff ! The thing that sticks out in my mind was the lugs were diffrent , and the roller on the barrel was larger ???? I SAW it against a springfield "spec" 1911 ! Maybe they did change something ???
No offense but Murphy's Guns in Tucson does NOT know their stuff (or they were trying to sell you something). After doing some research the Remington R1 is interchangeable with 1911 parts. It is a true 1911 (not a clone).
I might call Murphy's guns myself and talk with them. This is exactly how false info gets started
awfulkanawful
October 14, 2012, 03:02 PM
Look. Im not trying to dis any model or any make. But what was SHOWN to me was what influenced me to NOT buy one. I do have my own issues with Murphys gun room , was a very good customer and they could give a hoot less. I guess I just opened my mouth and said something that seems to now be incorrect , but none the less i only posted as to my one experience:banghead:
TennJed
October 14, 2012, 03:20 PM
I understand and sorry if I came across harsh to you, I meant it to Murphy's not you. I see too many gun clerks giving false information and it irks me. It is either done to sell something in particular or because of ignorance. No disrespect to you. I apologize
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