Duracoat, armacoat, KG cote, whatcoat?


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Rustle in the bushes
October 12, 2012, 01:07 AM
Overwhelming amount of products out there right now. Im looking to do an m1a receiver in matte black, stock in sage. Which of these do yall suggest and how to apply- I have a shop compressor and dont wanna spend 200 on a fancy air gun

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creeper1956
October 12, 2012, 01:37 AM
$180 will get you a 6 color kit from Ceracote (http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/) that includes the HVLP spraygun. Do a few of your guns, then do a few of your buddies for "the cost of materials"... and they'll pay for the kit. ;)

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taliv
October 12, 2012, 01:51 AM
also highly recommend cerakote. skip the duracoat. it scratches way too easy

Sam1911
October 12, 2012, 06:53 AM
We just had an oddly contentious thread about this (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=680091&highlight=duracoat). My preference is for KG Gun Kote, though some really do like DuraCoat and say it can be applied so as to avoid the scratching/chipping issue.

fatcat4620
October 12, 2012, 09:16 AM
High temp grill paint.

bodam
October 12, 2012, 10:23 AM
We just got the $180 kit from Cerakote yesterday, and the HVLP gun is junk. We actually went to HF and bought their afforable .8 spray gun, it seemed way better quality.

Gonna try the Cera this weekend. I've done some Durocoat, and it applied easily, and is pretty forgiving. Fairly simple to do. But it seems fairly fragile. I would recommend it for light duty applications.

But that's just my opinion. I will report back once I try the Cera

Bear451
October 12, 2012, 10:56 AM
I've done several guns with various colors of duracoat. Easy to apply, looks good. I think the problem alot of people have with it is not prepping correctly, or not allowing it to cure fully before heavy use. Duracoat dries quickly, but needs about 6 weeks to cure enough for severe duty. Did my buddies Ruger pistol and one of mine on the same day. I put mine up to dry for 4 weeks before using, and it is holding up great. He started carrying his a week after we finished them and he had obvious wear marks on the side.

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Uncle Grinch
October 12, 2012, 07:02 PM
Bodam... take a look on youtube for info on the HVLP guns. There's some very good info on improving them.

nwilliams
October 12, 2012, 10:45 PM
I had my P225 cerakoted and I could be happier with how it came out, extremely durable finish, if it's done correctly.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb264/nwilliams27/Sig%20P225%20Refinished/P225-3-before.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb264/nwilliams27/Sig%20P225%20Refinished/P225-3-after.jpg

bodam
October 12, 2012, 11:34 PM
That looks great. I can't wait to try this tomorrow.

nastynatesfish
October 13, 2012, 01:56 AM
Kggunkote with a 40 dollar HPLV gun from napa.
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w369/tabascoman79/d9af00e2.jpg

carbine85
October 13, 2012, 09:31 AM
The Brownells Gun Kote in the rattle can works great. No special tools need and it leaves an awesome finish. I have used the Matt Black and OD Green. Make sure you have enough room in the oven for the large parts. These finishes have to be baked so plan ahead for that stage.

meanmrmustard
October 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
High temp grill paint.
Horrible, horrible suggestion. I've done this on AKs before to no avail. It is still just a paint, and even shot peening does not get that stuff to bond properly. Even CLP takes that crap off. One must remember, your grill isn't getting handled, fondled, and chemical cleaned.

I second KG Gunkote and cerakote. Heck, I've had great luck with Alumahyde II, so long as you don't get bore scrubber on it. CLP won't take it off. But, cerakote is better still.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
October 13, 2012, 03:23 PM
Moly resin all the way.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii545/TheMulletBullet/DSC_0026.jpg

Rustle in the bushes
October 13, 2012, 05:08 PM
Interesting variety of responses. any of these will likely work for me as it isnt going into intense military duty just some hunting + the odd exposure to Canadian cold. Since Im new about this how about receiver painting? I can imagine the aperture sight and receiver parts not taking well to being painted. How do you smart folks work around this as I would like to camo the receiver as well and not mess with the tolerances and action.

1858
October 13, 2012, 05:21 PM
Moly resin all the way.

What color is the slide and thumb safety on your 1911? I'm going to paint one of my Kimbers with Cerakote and haven't decided what color(s) to use but I do like your choice.

Rustle in the bushes, I've painted numerous parts with GUN-KOTE and Cerakote and my experience has been that Cerakote is more durable, but both are capable of providing very nice finishes. I use an airbrush at about 20psi with really good results. I painted the barrel, action and bolt handle of my Remington/Krieger shown below using GUN-KOTE.

http://thr.mcmxi.org/rifles/remington/rem700_308win_aics/photos/rem700_308win_aics_01.jpg

aubie515
October 14, 2012, 04:07 PM
I concur that Cerakote and KG Gunkote/Norrells Moly resin are much better than Duracoat...Duracoat is crap.

Cerakote is more durable than KG/Norrells.

the count
October 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
OK, Duracoat is not crap. If you do the right prep, just like with any other gun coat. There are a ton of videos on youtube on how to prep and apply Duracoat. You want good results, use a decent airbrush, shake the stuff for a loooooong time, apply thin coats (dont try to cover everything in one coat, sure way to get runs), and then let it dry for a couple of days before doing anything.

PS Ceracote is very good but needs much more prepping as in degreasing baths, blasting with aluminum oxide, etc.

My Duracoated Glock 78

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/44723422/glock78.jpg

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
October 14, 2012, 08:25 PM
It's flat grey/black.

taliv
October 14, 2012, 08:49 PM
You want good results, use a decent airbrush, shake the stuff for a loooooong time, apply thin coats (dont try to cover everything in one coat, sure way to get runs), and then let it dry for a couple of days before doing anything.

done all that many times, including proper prep. it still scratches easy.

the count
October 14, 2012, 08:57 PM
done all that many times, including proper prep. it still scratches easy.
I have SOG titanium nitride finished blades and they too will wear. Guess nothing is perfect.

bodam
October 14, 2012, 10:02 PM
Here is my LCP that I did up for my wife. Used Ceracoat. .8 HVLP gun. It worked out pretty well, she loves it, and I'm happy with it.

We followed the instructions exactly. Blasted with 200 AO, Acetone soak, etc.

I can't attest to the durability yet, but the finish came out pretty good. We practiced on an old throw away first, just to test the spray etc.


http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff509/Bobdamaral/LCP.jpg

codypage76
November 1, 2012, 10:19 PM
I am having my ar15 duracoated in foliage green and then putting more matching furniture on it. My guy called me to look at the coat in progree the other day and when i saw it he had coated the whole barrel instead of just the upper receiver. i wanted to leave the barrel black so does anybody know if you can paint over duracote?

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