Who got their "Grail Gun" & who is still looking


October 12, 2012, 12:28 AM
I thought I would never get a Remington 31 factory riot in reasonable condition.
But I was wrong.:)

This one from 1934 popped up in the mid-$300's and the only downside is serious flaking of the finish at the comb:


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October 12, 2012, 12:41 AM
Nice! What is right above it?

I don't know it is my grail gun until after I get it. I end up appreciating it to point I don't want to get rid of it. I have a couple of guns that found me that I ended up "getting it".

Of course there are some things I would enjoy owning. I am really more of a shooter than a collector though.

October 12, 2012, 12:45 AM
Ruger Redhawk 45 colt 5.5". It took years before I saw one in person. This is still the only one I have seen. It is a handloaders dream gun (IMHO)


October 12, 2012, 04:05 AM
I'm still waiting for an SVD, either Russian (not Tigr) or the Chinese NDM-86. That's my grail gun. I just have to wait until I can afford it.

October 12, 2012, 09:48 AM
My grail gun is a Gewehr 43; I had a chance at one a few years ago for $1800 (and I actually had the spare cash for it), but for 1/3 the price I opted for an M1 Garand from CMP.

October 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Still saving for a Barrett .50 BMG

Jim, West PA
October 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Just got my 'grail' 'bout a couple o' 4 weeks back.
5.5" high polished stainless ROA.
Got it for a song with R&D .45 LC conversion cylinder. BUT seller did not have original C&B cylinder.
Ruger hooked me up real quick.
So, for that 'song', i now have newly factory refurbished RUGER ROA with R&D conversion cylinder.
As bought......


Back from RUGER.....

Yep, i'm beamin' :D

October 12, 2012, 11:02 AM
Got my two grail guns years ago....I'm now content.

Browning 9mm Renaissance


Winchester 52B Sporter


October 12, 2012, 11:04 AM
My grail gun(s) are

S&W Triple Lock
Nice Model of 1917 30-'06
Nice M1 Carbine, orginal, maybe IBM
Remington 77 in 30-'06
Savage Model 99 in 250 or 300 Savage...or 30-30 or .308. Must have rotary mag (not sure all those calibers had rotarys...not rotary, not grail)...tang sight already installed as close to manufacture as possible by a real for sure competent gunsmith.

October 12, 2012, 11:25 AM
My grail gun? It has to be my "go to gun", my Krieghoff Semper,


It breaks down for easy carry or travel,


and not only is a joy to carry at just under 7 pounds, it's very accurate,


and works perfectly on everything i've ever hunted with it, from moose, bear and deer,


on down to small game like turkey, javolina, coyotes, foxes, pheasants and all kinds of other small game.





October 12, 2012, 01:07 PM
I have a number of guns that I want to buy, but these are for the most part "practical" in that they are readily available and easily within my budget. Personally, I would consider a "grail gun" as one that is either so rare or so expensive that I might never actually get one.

I'd say the closest to that on my wish list would be an older Smith & Wesson Model 41 .22LR target semiauto with 7-inch barrel and muzzle brake. Honestly, in my hands it probably can't do anything a Ruger Mk III couldn't do for less than half the price, but I've always wanted one.

October 12, 2012, 01:28 PM
Still saving, mine is going to cost me 50 or 60 K probably..............

October 12, 2012, 01:36 PM
My Grail has changed over the years. Currently it's a high-grade Shiloh Sharps with a standard weight barrel in .50-90. But really I'd be happy with any Shiloh

October 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
I just got mine last week :) I've been looking for a Scout M6 22LR/410 for about 5-6 years, but never found one that was either :
a- The right calibers
b- the right price!

I mentioned it at the local gun shop, and the guy behind the desk said, "I have a beat up one and have a line on a really nice stainless one. I'll sell you the beat up one!" So, $400 later for it (great bore, a little bit of surface rust through the bluing), and I'm a happy camper! I spent 2 nights this week with it and a roll of para-cord.

October 12, 2012, 03:20 PM
My grail gun? It has to be my "go to gun", my Krieghoff Semper

That's a nice gun DM.

I guess mine so far has to be the Saiga-12 with the 20 round drum and a few 12 round mags. Just an incredible amount of firepower. Need to make a wall an exit? No problem :D

October 12, 2012, 03:51 PM
Nighthawk GRP... Someday Somehow.... just not right now....

October 13, 2012, 12:06 AM
I've given up on "Grail" guns.
It seems that every time I finally get one, another one pops up on the horizon.;)

Pete D.
October 13, 2012, 07:32 AM
For many years, mine was a target rifle....an Anschutz biathlon gun with a straight pull bolt. I bought it when I retired.


hang fire
October 13, 2012, 10:01 AM
JM Marlin Ballard #5 Pacific in .45-70 (mfg. aprox. 1878-80) and Colt 1873 SA Frontier Six Shooter in .44-40. (mfg. 1886)




October 13, 2012, 11:40 AM
Found two of mine, both quite recently.

A Browning A-Bolt in .257 Roberts, 1985 vintage. That was an 8-month quest, and even though it's a short action it shoots like a dream and has way more panache than a new M77 would.

An FN-Beretta-Browning BDA in .380 with the now un-acquirable old style "B" medallions, 1979 vintage. This was not on my grail list for very long, but once I handled one it replaced the PPK as my "one gun in .380" choice.

I guess if there's still one out there that could fit my "grail gun" criteria, it would be a Belgian Auto 5 in 20ga Magnum. There are a few out there, but their owners apparently don't really want to sell them...

October 13, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mine is at Chambers Custom being turned from a Colt Govt .38 Super into a retro fighting gun.

October 13, 2012, 11:58 AM
Got it. 1979 Remington 700 BDL 8mm Rem Mag. It's certainly not my most expensive or most useful firearm, but it's the one I was in pursuit of the longest. One in acceptable condition at a fair price turned up a little over a year ago. $700 shipped, gun is 95%+ condition and had a nice US-made Redfield 2-7x on it.

3rd from left (my "700 club")


October 13, 2012, 12:10 PM
Hmmmm. Seems like everytime I find what I thought was THE "Grail" gun that I was looking for,...it seems I am proven wrong. Therefore it must still be out there. I will continue to look for it. :-)

October 13, 2012, 12:12 PM
DM, I'm not going to lie, that is pretty good. Talk about versatility.

I'd like to buy a Grade VII Citori. Probably when I retire in 30+ years.

October 13, 2012, 01:23 PM
Grail guns are like mirages, there's always another one on the horizon.

October 13, 2012, 02:00 PM
My "grail guns" all showed up in places I didn't expect at reasonable/acceptable prices. I'm not much of a collector, butthere were just a few that I really had a strong desire to have and to shoot.

Grail rifle was a Browning 1885 in .30-06. Found one NIB for a reasonable price ($900) 2 years ago. At a gunshow of all places!

I like revolvers more than auto pistols for some odd reason, and I have always wanted a Python. Three years ago just before Christmas I scored a 6" Python LNIB (original box, original papers) $1100 - on GunBroker. It's easy to find a nice Python on GB, just not for $1100.

Lastly, I have always wanted a Browning Auto 5, Sweet Sixteen. I was killing time between business meetings cruising the used long guns at Cabellas' last spring out of plain curiosity - not looking for anything in particular - and - 'Lo an' Behold! I find a Sweet Sixteen stuffed in the rack, in very good shape (approx. 90%) from 1966 for $410!


October 13, 2012, 02:19 PM
Still looking for a russian M44 mosin in good condition.

Vern Humphrey
October 13, 2012, 02:25 PM
My grail guns are:

Pre-64 Model 70 Winchester
Colt Woodsman
Colt SAA
Colt New Service
Kimber M82 (in .22 LR and .22 Hornet)

October 13, 2012, 03:48 PM
I probably wouldn't have called them grail guns, but that's an apt description...I always seem to pull back from paying the price for anything that costs more for either rarity or sentimental reasons. But here goes- I'd really like a pre-64 Model 70, in .270 Win, or 30/06...and a Smith and Wesson model 17, 6" barrel. A nice Ithaca 20 guage...and some sort of high grade .22 bolt action. I've been content to browse local gun shows and walk out with my wallet intact...

1-1 Banger
October 13, 2012, 05:50 PM
I have several, in no particular order
1) M60 machine gun, because I love belt feds but can't buy my beloved 240B
2)LeMat revolver
3)M3 "Grease Gun"
4)an original Mac 10 with Sionics suppressor

October 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
Not sure who "Grail" is..............

The only gun I really really want is a replacemnt for my two-tone .357 Desert eagle I stoopidly traded away

October 13, 2012, 06:41 PM
I am a simple man of simple needs. I want to find a nice old Belgian Browning T-Bolt in .22LR.

October 13, 2012, 06:48 PM
Each time I get a gun, that was the grail gun of the moment.

My most precious are those that were given to me by my Father and Grandfather.

October 13, 2012, 07:23 PM
"I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do, so a little got more and more". -G&R

That is like my grail gun quest. I wanted a P7M13 so bad that I could taste it. I got it, love it and now I keep dreaming of the next one.

October 13, 2012, 11:51 PM
Nice! What is right above it?

Winchester 97 from 1937:


October 14, 2012, 08:54 AM

Long time coming. I found it in a local gunstore. I've wanted one of these rifles since I was little. This one was made when I was 5 years old. Such a high quality firearm. The only "flaw," if it is a flaw, is the recoil pad which was installed by the previous owner, and which causes the LOP to be such that it fits me perfectly.

Wish I could see the sights, but since I can't, I'm installing a scope. IMO, this is probably the perfect hunting rifle for what I use it for, coyotes or deer. In a pinch it could be used for prairie dogs, assuming it is accurate enough for that. The accuracy is something I don't know about yet as I haven't shot it with a scope yet.

The rifle is so light and well balanced. It just points naturally. The comb is the "compromise" monte carlo stock which is useful with a scope and also with the iron sights. The sense of satisfaction and pleasure when I hold it outweighs its obviously antiquated design, horrible single stage (non set) trigger, long striker fall, and long lock time. Just a neat rifle, made by people who were true craftsmen, before CAD machining. To my way of seeing things, this is the pinnacle of the mass produced gun maker's craft. Every piece on this rifle is a marvel to examine. The finish is unlike any rifle I've held before.

I think the slickest aspect of it has to be that if one holds the trigger to the rear and tilts the muzzle towards the floor the bolt slickly slides into battery and closes.

I guess that's it. The sense of satisfaction, of accomplishment, which I feel when I hold this rifle is what makes it such a prize to me.

October 14, 2012, 11:01 AM
I don't have a "Grail" gun because my tastes change regularly. I'm not looking for old weapons because I just want to shoot the cr@p out of any gun I buy! They are better left to collectors who will appreciate them.

I guess I'd have to say my "Grail" gun would have to be an M1A just because it brings fond memories from my Navy days...but they are readily available so not much of a hunt or wait, just a money issue!

October 14, 2012, 11:08 AM
I thought I would never get a Remington 31 riot because the ones for sale were all "military" guns in high condition selling for about $1800.

Then this popped up.

The finish on the butt was in dreadful condition.

But now, with stripping, sanding and only two coats of Watco Dark Danish Oil on the butt it is getting close to where I want it to be:


October 14, 2012, 10:17 PM
I've given up on "Grail" guns.
It seems that every time I finally get one, another one pops up on the horizon.;)
Aint that the truth. I got my grail gun a few months ago,a S&W 610 and now I have another grail gun to acquire. My new grail gun is the S&W model 16-4 with an 8 3/8 barrel.

captain awesome
October 16, 2012, 01:14 AM
many of my guns have been "grail guns" but I currently don't have the grail gun I want right now. seems that's how it always is.

October 16, 2012, 12:56 PM
+1 on another Grail gun popping up. More like a Bucket List. Picked up a Smith 52 last month so my list is one shorter.
Still on the list:
Winchester 52 sporter
Winchester 70 Hornet
Winchester 86 45-90
G 41 M
Any DSM 34 I don't have an example of

As you can see, my tastes are all over the place. I have been accused of having ADD. Can't seem to stay focused on one topic!

October 16, 2012, 03:01 PM
still looking for these
two winchester 54's one in 9mm mauser and one in 7.65 argentine
rigby 303 slant box mauser cased takedown rifle
winchester model 51 imperial takedown rifle

i have a papered unfired type two national match garand, so i guess its a grail to garand collectors. it will be used as trading fodder when one of the above rifles comes up

October 16, 2012, 03:05 PM
My two Grail Guns
1) Smith & Wesson Model 41
2) Springfield trap door carbine model 1873

*Someday I'll have both.....someday.

October 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
I've wanted one of these since I was a kid.



I was gonna get one earlier this year with my tax return, but everyone was sold out so I got a shotgun instead.

I just got a new job with a huge pay raise and was gonna get one as a sort of present to myself (been going to school for this job for years), but it looks like pretty much any gun going for a reasonable price has already been bought up due to the election, including these. :(

October 16, 2012, 03:53 PM
1918A3, just missed one. Don't like the idea of ordering and waiting, want to walk in and buy.

October 16, 2012, 05:13 PM
I read Grill Gun at first.

October 16, 2012, 05:37 PM
Still looking (since 2008 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=395574))

Star Arms "Megastar" in 10mm with at least two full capacity (14 round) magazines.

I've found a couple of .45ACP ones but no 10mm that I could afford.

October 16, 2012, 10:50 PM
I read Grill Gun at first.

I had two grill guns but I let the blond get away:


October 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Further thinking on the subject reminds me of the desire for a 30-40 Krag.

October 17, 2012, 10:31 AM
Mine has to be a S&W 625 Model of 1988. I will probably end up with a 625JM just because of availability, but the former has a certain extra appeal to it.

Kyle M.
October 17, 2012, 10:40 AM
I got one of them Ruger No.1 Tropical .375 H&H, but theres a few I'm still looking for.

October 17, 2012, 05:31 PM
+1 on LeMat Revolver. I still remember seeing one in the Smithsonian. I could not stop talking about it to my wife and parents. They had to drag me away from the display case. With only a few thousand made probably wont ever be able to find an original. Though I recently found a reproduction model that may someday fit the bill.


762 X 54r
October 17, 2012, 07:54 PM
The gun that I would call a ''grail gun'' would be a fal or some other semi-auto .30 cal. rifle.:cool:

October 18, 2012, 11:03 PM
.........there's always a Grail gun. I thought I was done when I finally got the Speed Six I wanted. When I got a blued one, a 2 3/4 Security came up in stainless, got it. Then a stainless Speed with a heavy barrel came up, was finally happy. The wife has the Security, gave the stepson the blued ( Boy was he happy!) and kept the stainless Speed for myself. Not hard to find mind you, just hard to get at a decent price.

Bought a FEG Hi Power clone. True SA, not their later S&W type models. Only bought it because I wanted a high cap something in the event of politics going the wrong way. This was long before the debate. Love it! Of course, now I want true Browning or FN. Again, not hard to find. Just want to get one on a construction workers wages in a bad economy. I keep watching Coles Distributing on GunBroker. And again saving my pennies.

My point is that there is always going to be something. My wants are easy and mundane except for one. I'd like to get my wife a High Standard Sentinel Mark IV in .22 mag with the three inch barrel. I know she would love it! But those suckers are always priced super high. There's one on GunBroker now for $500! C'mon, that's a $350 gun at best! Are they really that good or just that collectible? Never seen one less than $400 unless it was a hunk of rust. Bummer, perfect fit for her. Oh well, I'll keep searching.

Phantom Captain
October 19, 2012, 08:23 AM
I was lucky this year to have actually found and picked up two deals that I've wanted forever. I'm very much a Walther guy so these were much needed in my collection.

The first is the Walther P5 9mm. This one was made in 1993. I put the walnut grips on it as soon as I got it. Love this beauty.


The second, and this one is my TRUE grail gun, is a lovely little Walther PPK .32 made in 1938. I've longed and lusted for a real pre-war forever. Since I was a kid even, and finally ran across this at a price I could handle. I jumped on it. Of all the guns I own I really do list this little jewel right at the top. I still can't get over the fact that I actually OWN one now. And they only appreciate! Not that I'd ever sell it.


October 19, 2012, 09:20 AM
Found/gift Grails: Winchester Model 1886 in 38-56, inherited from my Grandfather, handed down to him from his Grandfather. More inherits: collection of Ithaca 37s in varying models and 12/20s, Rem. 552 Speedmaster, 700 ADL in '06 w/Timney and Nikon.

Cool Finds: S&W 12ga. riot gun, Br. M-1000 Eclipse in .300WM, Caspian Custom that P.O. had blinged out for IPSC, DW 5" fixed barrel .44Mag., S&W 1076, and an STI TargetMaster in .45.

They all have build differences and characters of their own. That Model 1886 just has a special feel though, between the real feel of hefty steel and the balance it somehow has along with the memories. The Grails seem to come along w/o my planning and have a recipe of: opportunity, timing, price-point, and a good story. Good times!

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