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mio
October 13, 2012, 09:26 PM
i ran into a dan wesson .357 at the lgs today. like an idiot i didnt pay attention to the model # the gun is blued and had factory grips no nicks dings or gouges in the grips. the 8in bbl had a touch of surface rust by the sight but the rest of the blueing looked great. the 6in and 4in bbls were pristine. the only other blemish was the ring around the cylinder. there were some tools mentioned and the serial # was in the 362k range although i doubt that helps without a model.

price was $600. i had him set it off to the side for me and told him ill call monday morning. this is the first time ive handled a dan wesson and was very impressed with the balance (6in bbl was on it) and how well the grips fit. the gun felt like it belonged in my hand.

all i know about these guns is that they are supposed to be very accurate so can anybody educate me a bit? is there a model i should stay away from? roughly what do they run in your neck of the woods?

im really leaning towards buying it and enjoying it with the 6in bbl and putting the 8in bbl on towards deer seasons.

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Wishoot
October 13, 2012, 09:57 PM
I've been looking for a good deal on a DW revolver on Gunbroker for a while. $600 seems a bit steep.

Lost Sheep
October 13, 2012, 09:57 PM
Buy it. Buy it now.

If you don't like it, I will take it and pay shipping, too.

Lost Sheep

SteelManCM
October 13, 2012, 10:04 PM
$600 for a Dan Wesson with 8" 6" AND 4" barrels steep???

I'LL TAKE IT! Seriously, if you pass, Lost Sheep gets 1st and I'll take 2nd dibs.

Lost Sheep
October 13, 2012, 10:09 PM
My very first gun was a Dan Wesson I bought new in 1974 or thereabouts for $150. You should have three more pieces with your gun. A special nut (a.k.a. adapter) for removing the recessed barrel nut, a wrench to turn the special nut and a feeler gauge to set the cylinder/barrel gap. The special nut should be about 3/4" hexagonal with a short .350" diameter post (that will fit into the muzzle) and two lugs or "spurs" to engage the notches or recesses you see in the round, recessed barrel nut (ring) that holds the shroud onto your gun. The wrench is just plate steel formed with a hex shape on one end and (if I recall correctly) another, smaller hex wrench pinned to the plate. The plate has a twelve point hole (socket) to turn the barrel nut on or off. The feeler gauge is .006" to set the cylinder/barrel gap when installing your barrel.

When installing the barrel, the torque you apply will make a difference to the gun's accuracy, but I don't remember the torque to apply. Just be sure to apply the same force each time and don't "muscle" it. Gentle firmness is enough. Always clean the barrel threads (and the corresponding inside threads on the frame) with a soft brush (toothbrush) any time you have the barrel removed. A thin (microscopically thin) coating of lithium grease couldn't hurt, in my opinion.

The action inside is much simpler than Smith & Wesson's and unique among all handguns as far as I know. To disassemble, you remove the stock by pulling the hex nut from the bottom, then pull the hammer back to compress the mainspring. Next, capture the mainspring to relieve the pressure on the hammer. Then, with the mainspring compressed and free, pull the trigger to free the hammer. Remove the sideplate and start removing parts. The advancing hand is held forward with a small spring. Take careful note of the direction it is facing because it is easy to get confused about how to put it back. It only goes in one way, but is is better to remember (or work from a photograph or drawing) than to try to figure it out with the parts in your hand.

The Dan Wesson had tight chambers (partly accounting for its phenomenal accuracy) and the short hammer fall made for a very fast lock time (between sear release and primer strike) which, in my opinion has more to do with the DW's accuracy than anything else. DA trigger pull is heavy for that reason, but SA trigger pull on mine at least is very light and crisp. There is a hex nut on the back of the trigger to control over travel (similar to the Colt Gold Cup except that on the Colt it is accessible from the front.) Don't back it out too far or you won't be able to press the trigger back far enough to release the sear. If you back it out JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT you can lock up the whole gun, with the trigger cocked single action, but up against the stop so you can't release the sear. Not good.

When you take the sideplate off, you will (hopefully) notice a small half-circle of steel formed of wire the size of coathangar wire, shaped in a semicircle of about 1/4" diameter. It is called the crane lock. It holds the cylinder crane in the frame. Don't lose it.

Shooting Times did a cover story on the "Dan Wesson Series 15 .357 Magnum" by Charles Twing (?) in September, 1976. If you can't get historical data from Dan Wesson (now owned by CZ) you might google the article or author.

If the gun was made in Monson, Mass, it is more desirable.

Lost Sheep

p.s. I am serious about my offer. Send a picture. I had a 4-barrel pistol pack which I sold for $500 when I was desperate for money. Had the belt buckle, shoulder patch, original custom briefcase and all the tools. Kicking myself ever since. I still do have my original gun but it has only the 6" barrel and the finish is ruined, but still my most accurate gun. That, and my 22 rimfire Dan Wesson.

mio
October 13, 2012, 10:12 PM
did a search and checked a couple threads. its not the porkchop shroud and it did have adjustable sights so i think it might be some kind of 14 variant. very pretty anyway. im going to bed ill see if i can narrow it down a bit in the morning.

mio
October 13, 2012, 10:17 PM
i did see the feeler gauges but not the other tools. ill be asking when i call monday morning.

Lost Sheep
October 13, 2012, 10:23 PM
did a search and checked a couple threads. its not the porkchop shroud and it did have adjustable sights so i think it might be some kind of 14 variant. very pretty anyway. im going to bed ill see if i can narrow it down a bit in the morning.
Adjustable sight, .357 Magnum. That's a Model 15.

Four different barrel shrouds were available. Plain. Heavy (full length underlug). Vent rib no underlug. Vent rib with underlug.

I forgot about the interchangeable front sights. Mine had White, Yellow and Red. Small allen screw held them in place.

Lost Sheep

bikemutt
October 13, 2012, 10:37 PM
No matter how you cut it you can only shoot one barrel at a time. I own a nice model 15 6" barrel DW, it's a great gun, I really enjoy shooting it, I'm happy to leave it the way it is. For me, the barrel length swap has a value proposition which is lower than the price of entry.

Mike J
October 13, 2012, 11:15 PM
I only have the 4" barrel with my model 15. I got mine cheap out of a pawnshop back in the 90's because the bluing is rough but it shoots good. Any information you might want on these guns is available at www.danwessonforum.com


The value of being able to swap barrels is just up to the individual. I don't have but one but I always thought if I had a longer barrel for it I'd like to take a deer with it.

Steve CT
October 13, 2012, 11:33 PM
S/N 362xxx would be 1985 or so.

$600 is a "buy it now and don't look back" price.You hear correctly about the accuracy, they are also pretty strong.

We're waiting to meet you

http://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/new-members-introduction/

Wishoot
October 14, 2012, 12:47 AM
$600 for a Dan Wesson with 8" 6" AND 4" barrels steep???

I'LL TAKE IT! Seriously, if you pass, Lost Sheep gets 1st and I'll take 2nd dibs.

Oops. Didn't read the op close enough. Thought he was just talking about a single barrel.

DWFan
October 14, 2012, 03:44 PM
There was also a heavy shroud without a sight; drilled and tapped for a scope mount for IHMSA Hunter Pistol and a slab-side shoud with a full-length rib sight for PPC. EWK Arms sells a near duplicate of the PPC shroud and 1:12 twist barrels.

zoom6zoom
October 14, 2012, 03:50 PM
Run, do not walk, back to the shop and take that sucker home.
I paid about the same for a full pistol pac (all four barrels and the case) a few years ago.

Some folks prefer using a set of automotive feeler gauges over the factory tool, as you can set the gap to your own liking.

mio
October 19, 2012, 07:32 PM
i went back to the gun store tuesday and gave it a good look over. proving that the memory can play tricks on you it was a fixed sight so im assuming model 14. it was made in monson so i bought it anyway. dont know what the value difference is or if its still as good of a deal but its next years deer rifle anyway. dang that thing is smooth and best balance ive ever found in a pistol.

mio
October 19, 2012, 07:36 PM
oh and it does have the wrench as well as the feeler gauges.

C5rider
October 19, 2012, 08:42 PM
Pics!

We need PIX!!!!

Congrats on buying a GREAT gun! I really enjoy all three of mine!

Jaymo
October 19, 2012, 09:49 PM
I always hated the way DWs looked. Then, I shot one. I quickly learned the error of my prejudice.

robhof
October 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
The 2nd pistol I ever shot was a DW 357 model 15 with a 6" barrel. My brother bought it and we took it out to the local clay pit and had a dozen water filled milk jugs, 12 rounds later we were looking for more targets. I've owned a DW ever since and rate them as excellent pistols, I also own Ruger and Beretta pistols so I'm not speaking as a 1 gun person and I've had S&W's in the past. Their accuracy is legendary. Good luck.

Peter M. Eick
October 20, 2012, 08:30 AM
Sounds like a reasonable price for a multi-barreled model 15. If I did not have one like it, I would be interested. Good guns, accurate and easy to clean is my summary.

Captcurt
October 21, 2012, 06:01 PM
I would give $600 for it and I'm so tight that I squeek.

Black Horse
October 21, 2012, 11:35 PM
I have owned a Dan Wesson 15-2 for many years. It has taken deer, hogs, and a feral dog. It is tremendously accurate and naturally w/different length of bbls you cannot make a better choice. Good luck w/your DW.

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