Ok I don't really know how to title this but I have a double coach gun I'd like to keep ready in the bedroom just in case I ever need it. I won't keep it loaded but I don't want to keep it in the corner or easy to reach because I have kids.
I can imagine a wall mounted bracket that keeps the gun off the floor and the muzzle covered with some sort of latch that is not kid friendly, with ammo stored separately. As of now I keep the coach in the safe until I can figure a safe way to keep it more readily available.
Thanks in advance
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October 17, 2012, 10:09 AM
I have my M12 hanging over the bedroom door, loaded. Always have had & the boys never bothered it............
You have a double, how about like this & the kids can`t reach it.
October 17, 2012, 10:22 AM
Well, when my kids were growing up, I kept a 1911 with a trigger lock in a drawer. No way I would be able to get the gun operating fast but my kids safety was paramount.
Now with the kids grown and gone the same 1911 is in the same drawer but no trigger lock, loaded magazine with chamber empty, condition 3.
I just feel safer with it in condition 3, when stored but carry it condition 1. Please be careful, kids are curious and can get into trouble real fast.
October 17, 2012, 05:03 PM
No matter how you keep it stored, the most important thing is PROPERLY educating your kids about firearms. Simply telling them not to touch it is only going to make them more curious. I'm sure you already know that but a friendly reminder is always a good thing.
October 17, 2012, 05:11 PM
303tom I dig the above the door idea.
October 17, 2012, 09:06 PM
You have a double, how about like this & the kids can`t reach it.
Depends on how well a person has taught his kids. Since kids are extremely curious they can easily stand in a chair, climb up on a stool, or even craft a step ladder (stack things) from just about anything they find in a room if curiosity gets the best of them.
bubba in ca
October 18, 2012, 12:07 AM
I have a gun safe--one of the cheapies that claims to hold 8 rifles or so --in the bedroom closet. Room for the HD guns and a few odds and ends. At night or anytime I am alone in the house for any length of time the key is stuck in the lock and turned. Grandkids and grab and run thieves can't get in, cost is below $200 bucks. It also keeps dust and prying eyes off my HD guns.
Might be a worthwhile option... hidden in the wall behind the bedroom door etc. May be available from other sources, this was the first one I found.
October 18, 2012, 06:31 AM
One concern to remember is that with hammerless break action guns they cock on closing. There is no way to let the hammers down. So once you load it and close the action you have the gun sitting there, loaded, ready to fire- and a lot of the old guns didn't have much in the way of a safety, either. The safety didn't block the hammer or prevent the sear from moving. They just prevented the trigger from lifting the sear. So a good jolt, and it can discharge. Been there, done that, nearly killed a dog by accident.
I would recommend keeping an old double unloaded and leave a butt cuff or a bandoleer of ammo right with it.
Of course if you have rabbit ears you are good to go, just let them down.
October 18, 2012, 08:50 AM
Education is most important early-on with children. My grandchildren were brought up with guns at a very early age , here at the farm . Guns were always loaded and we never had a problem. I was also brought up that way with guns and passed it on to my children. If you can not do that, then the safe and most effective way would be to lock them or ammo up in a safe.
October 18, 2012, 09:25 AM
For $80 you can get a Stock On in-the-wall cabinet that will hold a couple of long guns like your coach gun. Mark the drywall, cut the hole to fit, attach to the studs and you have a flush fit storage container that looks a lot like a commercial breaker panel (or get a locking commercial breaker panel). Hang a mirror over it and it is concealed and locked against casual access.
October 18, 2012, 09:59 AM
Education is most important early-on with children.
Can not stress this enough.
October 19, 2012, 12:21 AM
........hsos idea coupled with the education. When I got my coach, I went with the rabbit ears so I could keep it loaded. If you shoot it enough, it's not much slower than hammerless. I've since got a Maverick 88 from the stepson that fills in for HD, but the Baikal coach is still the camping and fun gun.
BTW, you can sometimes get a long, flush mount electrical panel from places that are being renovated for free or dirt cheap. Something being redone like a school or a larger warehouse. I do the electrical thing for a living, so a heads up from someone who rips them out sometimes. You don't have to pay new prices.
October 19, 2012, 10:51 AM
Put it away when the kids are home alone. Have it loaded when you are home. An unloaded gun is no help when inturders break in. I use handguns in the house and have them loaded in 5 areas of the house and no you will never see them. They are all S&W revolvers, no jams.
October 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
Children need to be taught that guns are not toys or play things. When we were kids my father took us shooting and safety was the first and last lesson of every trip. I know he kept a shotgun in his bedroom and it was loaded. I remember him telling us never to touch it without his supervision and that he was willing to show it to us when and if we asked. I learned never to point a gun at anything I did not intend to shoot and the very first thing to do when first picking up a gun was to check if it was loaded EVEN IF I KNEW IT WASN"T. My parents room was off limints and I did not dare go in without his permission because I knew if I did that would be the end of my shooting trips with my father, oh, and a strappin too. Today, TV raises too many of our kids. If your kids are too young to understand I would use a trigger lock when Not in the bedroom.
October 19, 2012, 02:35 PM
One note for those talking about training kids well from an early age: I completely agree but when one is divorced and mom is an anti the safety message isn't reinforced as consistently so extra precautions may still be necessary since one can't always know what "training" is going on at Mom's house. It's my house/my rules, but I still keep the guns locked up and keys either on me or hidden near me when my young son stays with me.
October 19, 2012, 04:27 PM
One concern to remember is that with hammerless break action guns they cock on closing.
Most modern guns cock on opening- - which is why they tend to be difficult for some folks to open. In either case, leaving a double gun loaded with little kids can have disastrous consequences, especially if it is dropped.
October 19, 2012, 10:40 PM
One concern to remember is that with hammerless break action guns they cock on closing. There is no way to let the hammers down.
I no longer have kids to worry about. But, that has been addressed. I do keep my little 20 gauge Spartan decocked and loaded (has floating firing pins) with 3 buck. No exposed hammers, must open the action to cock the internal hammers, close action back, kick safety off, and you're ready to go.
All you need do to decock the gun with rounds ready (be sure it has floating firing pins), at least on my Spartan, is install snap caps, pull triggers, pull the fore arm off, open and replace snap caps with 3 Buck, close, replace fore end. Hammers are DOWN, gun must be opened to cock them WITH the fore end in place.