.327 Federal Carbine


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Crowman
October 17, 2012, 11:12 PM
Has anyone seen or had a lightweight short, handy carbine made/purchased in .327 Federal Magnum? I want one as a companion to my 7-shot Ruger GP-100 for trail carry and small game/predator hunting. I've been writing Marlin, Ruger, Puma, etc., asking for one.

Rim Rock sells a nifty 115 grain cast flat point bullet that would make up a great hunting load in a .32 H&R/.327 Fed case.

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SlowFuse
October 17, 2012, 11:56 PM
I've pondered this myself, love the cartridge. It seems the most obvious route is Handi Rifle or Thompson Center.

To get a lever (which I would prefer) seems like it would be very involved and expensive.

303tom
October 18, 2012, 01:48 AM
I hear Ruger is considering a 77/327..............Don`t Quote me on that.

Crowman
October 18, 2012, 09:29 AM
Then why don't we start a letter campaign to Ruger, Marlin, Legacy, etc., to get the ball rolling?

Cosmoline
October 18, 2012, 06:19 PM
I've been wondering about this since the cartridge was first announced. It's the natural successor to the .32-20 with an easier-to-reload cartridge and interchangeability with the .32 S&W line. It's power is mostly lost in the short guns.

Someone must be doing some custom chamberings by now. There was a Marlin lever in .32 H&R Mag, wasn't there? Out of a carbine it could easily start taking thin skin medium game.

Crowman
October 18, 2012, 06:56 PM
Marlin no longer chambers a .32 carbine; however, I did write the company asking them to come out with a .327 model. I also e-mailed the Turnbull company and asked whether they were/would turn out a lever gun in that chambering, and they responded no. Taurus, Ruger and Legacy Arms (Puma) said they would forward to marketing, Henry has no plans yet. I am not interested in a single shot in that chambering, want a repeater, either lever, pump, or bolt.

Folks need to start writing them to stir up some interest.

Cosmoline
October 18, 2012, 08:32 PM
It's weird. They'll chamber all sorts of bizarre new ultra-ultra short magnums that nobody ever seems to buy but when something this logical falls into their laps they get reluctant.

SlowFuse
October 18, 2012, 09:30 PM
I would gladly write up a letter.

I've got a lot of $ into loading this one and would really like to see ballistics out of a 16" bbl.

Texan Scott
October 18, 2012, 09:34 PM
It's a nifty idea ... I'm not sure what I'd do with it though.

splithoof
October 18, 2012, 11:23 PM
If enough shooters clamor for it, the marketing folks will convince the designers to produce. It does not have to make sense, be useful, or any good for anything. It simply must meet a perceived need. Start the writing!

Crowman
October 18, 2012, 11:45 PM
And while we're at it, let's add Speer and CCI to the list for some .32 shot shells!

W.E.G.
October 19, 2012, 12:11 AM
Sell the .32 revolver

Buy a .357 revolver and carbine

peyton
October 19, 2012, 06:37 AM
I had my Marlin 32 mag converted to 327 and love it!!

Crowman
October 19, 2012, 10:30 AM
Note to W.E.G.,

Already got'em, L-frame & 1894C. Sooooo been there, done that.

The .32's are the cherry on top of the sundie!

303tom
October 19, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sell the .32 revolver

Buy a .357 revolver and carbine
Ain`t no way in hell I would trade my Blackhawk in .327 mag. for another one in .357 mag. hell I would be losing 2 rounds + my .327 will do anything my .357 will & faster............

Detritus
October 19, 2012, 03:58 PM
They'll chamber all sorts of bizarre new ultra-ultra short magnums that nobody ever seems to buy but when something this logical falls into their laps they get reluctant.

That's Because there are a lot more gun buyers out there whose focus is "I need more power" than there are (more knowlegable/informed/having a better grasp of physics/ballistics) folks looking for a light handy repeater in what is veiwed by the industry as a niche revolver round.

the gunmakers know that for every one gun in .327 Fed they'd sell, probably 10 rifles chambered for one of the newest crop of "Uber-elkslayer" rounds.


I think that for the foreseeable future that a repeater in .327Fed is going to come down to finding a .32Mag rifle and getting a knowlegable smith to convert it.

Cosmoline
October 19, 2012, 06:52 PM
I had my Marlin 32 mag converted to 327 and love it!!

More details please! Who did it?

Swing
October 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
An ultra-light, levergun in .327 would be very sweet indeed. :)

peyton
October 20, 2012, 02:31 AM
I sent mine to Brockmans Rifle and he reamed out the cylinder plus I had him put peep sights on it. Cost around $200 for the conversion when I did it and love the results!! Here is his website:

http://www.brockmansrifles.com/

Here is the contact info, I have 3 more to send to him!!

Jim Brockman brockman@brockmansrifles.com

February 08, 2011 12:58 > Subject: Question about converting 1894
We do the conversion . The cost is $165 plus return shipping.
Thank You & Have a Nice Day!
Brockman's Rifles
208-934-5050

My son and I had a hoot shooting the K-32 my wife had bought me two years ago. It was sad it took two years to get to shoot it. The range faces due south so we had problems with the sun in our eyes.
I also had my Marlin 1894 32 Magnum converted to 327 Federal magnum so I shot it at 50 yards. Brockman's did the job and functioning was great, he also put the sights on. My groups were strung horizonally, I attribute that to the sun.
I included a comparison picture of the .327 versus the .32 long. We had the range to ourselves and got to practice good marksmanship, gun safety and checking out the targets frequently. My son got pretty good calling his shots.
We also verified our zero's with our deer rifles, both are in 270. He outshot me, with a 1 inch group.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt145/peyton197/2011-11-06_16-42-16_530.jpg
http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt145/peyton197/2011-11-06_16-35-10_397.jpg
http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt145/peyton197/2011-11-06_16-38-01_304.jpg
http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt145/peyton197/2011-11-06_16-45-51_452.jpg

Cosmoline
October 21, 2012, 03:21 PM
Thanks Peyton! That's actually very reasonable pricing.

Now if only I can get ahold of one of the .32 H&R leverguns to convert, and some actual .327 Federal ammo ;-)

P5 Guy
October 21, 2012, 04:24 PM
A slide action (pump) 327 MAG would be killer!

meanmrmustard
October 21, 2012, 07:58 PM
Off topic (a bit) but I'd like to see a carbine other than the MechTech uppers, chambered in .357 Sig.

Crowman
October 21, 2012, 08:26 PM
I can't find a Marlin 1894 CB in .32 H&R anywhere...they've already been sold, months ago. Marlin should take note!

Ray P
October 22, 2012, 02:28 AM
I did follow Peyton's conversion progress on another site. Think though, given the scarcity of 1894CBs I'd go with a Martini Cadet re-barrelled to .327. Just so happens I have a spare Franken-tini (mismatched receiver & .310 bbl) laying around :-)

JustsayMo
October 23, 2012, 06:58 PM
The Marlin 32 1894's are uncommon and their owners tend to hold onto them. It took me a few years to finally find one for sale and I had to pay a ransom for it.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k542/WhitSpurzon/Marlin003-001.jpg

32-20 top, 32 H&R bottom

Mine's only been to the range twice. Shoots the ammo I load for my Single Six very well but I'm certain it would benefit from some custom loading.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k542/WhitSpurzon/Marlin005-001.jpg

If I had more time I'd take it out more often but those 32-20's are very addictive too.

CraigC
October 24, 2012, 01:06 AM
I'd be first in line for a .327 levergun!

What I'd also like to see is for Ruger to produce a scaled-down #1 in an appropriate size for not only the .327 but the .22Hornet, .218Bee, .25-20, .32-20, .38-40, etc.. Get it down to 6lbs and I'll buy several!

peyton
October 27, 2012, 05:30 AM
The problem with the 32-20 conversion is the cartridge base is to large compared to the 32 Magnum, so a single shot would need the barrel and a new chambering.

kBob
October 27, 2012, 07:28 AM
Not what you guys want, but.... Does anyone make a "shell shrinker type chamber insert for a .30-30 or .308 that handles the .327 and .32 H&R et al?

Might be a way to sort of get there as a single shot.

I know that todays chamber adaptors feature a long free bore which plays hob with accuracy. I have to wonder if there would be a market for the old Marble (of Game Getter fame) adaptors which featured an adaptor that unscrewed in the middle to allow the chosen pistol round or rim fire round to extend from the front of the adaptor long enough to at least come close to reaching the lead and rifleing. Tjhis meant they needeed theor own firing pin in the base so machining cost would be up there compared to todays typical one piece adaptor. They HAD to have been more accurate though.

As a single shot somthing like a TC might be doable.

-kBob

CraigC
October 27, 2012, 09:29 AM
Contender barrels are readily available but I don't think that's what folks here are wanting.

peyton
October 27, 2012, 09:41 AM
They do make chamber adapters for 308 and 30 06 that will allow you to shoot 32 long and 32 magnum.

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