Does anyone still use buckshot?


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Kachok
October 22, 2012, 12:09 AM
So a friend of mine tells me that he is hunting this year with a 12ga and he is using 00 buckshot, this would not surprise me if he were a dog hunter but from a treestand I don't see the logic of it. Does anyone else still use a scattergun besides dog hunters? If so what is the appeal and what advantage would it have over a 30-06 or even a 12ga slug? Seems to me like quite a handicap, not to mention a good way to ruin a bunch of extra meat.

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R.W.Dale
October 22, 2012, 12:18 AM
I've used buckshot ONCE and I'll never use it again. Even at a range of 15 FEET I found its effectiveness to be severely lacking bordering on worthless.

If you can kill it with buckshot its close enough to hit it with a slug.


And this is before you get to my personal observation that every fatal hunting "accident" I've ever seen reported locally involves buckshot. I suppose sound shooters would prize its inaccuracies and indiscriminate nature.




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1911 guy
October 22, 2012, 08:10 AM
I believe New Jersey still requires buckshot. Other than that, it would be pretty far down my list of choices.

Sav .250
October 22, 2012, 08:24 AM
I`d check my DNR regs before I`d go that route. J s/n.

303tom
October 22, 2012, 09:04 AM
There are only a few states where you can use buckshot, then I think it has to be 00 or bigger.................

JohnM
October 22, 2012, 09:14 AM
A 12 gauge always sits in the corner of the living room loaded with 5 rounds of 000 for grizzlies.

T Bran
October 22, 2012, 09:23 AM
I have killed many hogs with buckshot from a stand and in some cases doubles and even one triple.
The big drawback is if they arent dead on the spot there is very little blood to track with.
The holes just seal up and dont bleed externally so if you dont have a good trail dog use something else.
A good slug like a Barnes expander or something similar leaves a blood trail that looks like something was dragging a paint roller thru the woods.
T

Cocked & Locked
October 22, 2012, 09:56 AM
Buckshot is the thing for dog hunting running deer (Southern Tradition.) I don't use it or slugs when stand hunting...give me a rifle every time for that.

This is the last deer I shot with buckshot...12 gauge 3" #1 buck launched from a modified choke barrel is my preference. One shot put it down...not DRT, but down on the spot.

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/8553770/120915664.jpg

12 gauge buckshot has awesome power within its limited range. If that is all I had to hunt with, I would do it...within range of course.

MCgunner
October 22, 2012, 11:15 AM
There are only a few states where you can use buckshot, then I think it has to be 00 or bigger.................

There are WMAs that REQUIRE buckshot for hogs in Texas. It's a rule of the WMA, not a state law. Buckshot sux for pigs, just hope you get one on the head. I'd carried 00, even some stuff called 0000 that a company has, carries 8 pellets and they're not stacked evenly in a 12 gauge shell. I haven't patterned 'em, will, but I ain't holding my breath on that. I've about decided that public hog hunting is okay for a nice day in the woods, but it sux having to take a shotgun. I wish they'd allow BP rifles. I'd take my Hawken, would be cool. :D

All in all, give me a rifle. This is Texas and we are riflemen....except in the duck marsh. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-009.gif

Patocazador
October 22, 2012, 02:21 PM
Some Wildlife Management Areas in Florida don't allow center-fire rifles during gun season. The areas are usually heavily wooded swamps or brush and quite a few hunters opt for buckshot so they have quick follow-up shots in tight areas.

I have killed about a dozen deer with 00 buck and about the same number of hogs. With hogs on foot I prefer a shotgun with 3" buckshot. I have killed 2 within 5 yards of me. One was so close it had 9 of 12 00 buckshot in his face. Only 3 missed him.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll33/docjawbraker/IMG_1011web.jpg

W.E.G.
October 22, 2012, 02:36 PM
Virginia allows ONLY BUCKSHOT for deer hunting in a number of the flat-land counties.

countertop
October 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
In Oklahoma a number of WMA's (well, at least two) require it for hogs outside of deer season.

In Virginia, the dog hunters use it. Used it for the first time last fall when I went out with them for the first time ever.

I was just drawn for a lottery management hunt on a state forest that abuts a national park and gets hunted a total of 3 days a year (I will be there each one). Your limited to buck shot out of a tree stand.

Kachok
October 22, 2012, 04:42 PM
So is it fair enough to say that aside from dog hunting, and hunting where it is required by law there is absolutely no advantage to buckshot over a good rifle or even a slug? I hate to have to claim ignorance on any topic of firearms, but I have never once used buckshot for anything other then home defense, always had a good rifle so I never felt the need for it.

41 Mag
October 22, 2012, 05:18 PM
To be honest I have only used it a few times for deer, and haven't dropped the hammer on one yet. I grew up shoot my shotgun more than anything and fully enjoyed being in the field with it.

Over the past years I haven't done much with my scatterguns other than keep one up at the farm for hogs and a few squirrels. When our pear tree has fruit, the hogs come right on up in the yard after the ones that fall off. The following picture is one reason I like to use it on them, while it wasn't under the pear tree, this same sounder did visit several times, and on more than one occasion left short a member or two.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Game%20Cam%20Shots/Nov%20-19%202011/PICT0066.jpg

Buckshot is no different than any other shotshell, it has to be patterned to be effective for hunting. Simply throwing a round in the chamber under a full choke usually doesn't result in the best overall performance. In fact in one of my 12's the Improved Cylinder does the best with 00 and 000, where in another the Modified does better. Neither do well with a full. Also the velocity can and does wreak havoc on the pattern as well. I found out by total accident that the darned Remington Reduced Recoil 00 shot better than everything else, keeping all of the pellets on an 8" paper plate at 25yds with the Modified choke. That is now my backyard load for up at the farm, and also if the oldest grandson and I can get our schedules together with the hogs under a double person ladder stand I put up over a feeder we're gonna have a field day.

Cocked & Locked
October 22, 2012, 05:54 PM
That right there is a bunch of good backstrap!

wyohome
October 24, 2012, 09:56 PM
The only thing I have used buckshot for is geese. No. 4 works well.

Captcurt
October 25, 2012, 08:28 AM
Do they make steel buckshot?

LeonCarr
October 25, 2012, 08:57 AM
The only buckshot I trust for deer and hogs is Dixie Slugs Tri-Ball. Good stuff.

www.dixieslugs.com

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Captcurt
October 25, 2012, 01:29 PM
I used OO buck several years ago when we had a shotgun only area. I took 2 deer out to 40 yards and never had an issue. Both deer were hit by multiple shot and dropped on the spot. My shotgun handled it best with modified choke.

RhinoDefense
October 26, 2012, 12:10 AM
I've hunted deer with 20ga and #1 buckshot. On the ground, 20y from a bait pile, it does the job.

627PCFan
October 26, 2012, 10:05 AM
i use it for still hunting, 30 yards or less. 3.5 inch 00 Buck :) Over kill but I dont eat lungs :) No problems so far.

DammitBoy
October 26, 2012, 10:20 AM
I use buckshot on deer and hogs to good effect. Don't be hatin'...

CharlieDeltaJuliet
October 26, 2012, 10:35 AM
I have killed deer with buckshot 20+ years ago, but now only use it for home defense..it is still my favorite home defense round.

Captcurt
October 26, 2012, 02:25 PM
Just bought 20 boxes of RIO #4 buck for $2 a box. Just for HD.

TexasPatriot.308
October 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
I save my buckshot in 00 for vermin trying to break into my house...pump 12 gauge, if the racking of the slide dont scare em off, getting hit with a lethal dose of buck should do it,

thomis
October 31, 2012, 08:57 PM
hell yes, i use buckshot. works for me every time.
Biggest 8-pointer I killed was with Grandad's 870 Wingmaster with only 2 3/4" shell chamber. Shot one dead on the spot with a standard 12 gauge 00 buck at 22 yards from my stand oct 10, 2010 never forget the way it dropped = dead

DammitBoy
October 31, 2012, 09:04 PM
I was on a drive hunt in Livingston, Alabama where those on stands were only allowed shotguns with buckshot because of the beaters behind the deer driven to our stands.

I dropped a 6 point buck in his tracks at 65 yards with three buckshot to the heart. That buck dropped like a truck had hit him.

JohnB
November 1, 2012, 09:16 PM
Within 10 miles of Livingston, AL. Remington 1100/Federal #1 Buck. DRT. Never moved.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Johnny_B/11pointa.jpg

DammitBoy
November 1, 2012, 10:15 PM
Nice ten point John!

Roll Tide!

Alaska444
November 1, 2012, 10:29 PM
I save my buckshot in 00 for vermin trying to break into my house...pump 12 gauge, if the racking of the slide dont scare em off, getting hit with a lethal dose of buck should do it,
That appears to be the best usage of buck shot at this time in many ways. Spread and penetration limit it to close quarters only. For home defense, it has much more knock down power than a handgun but it does not have the over penetration issues of many hand guns. I have two 20 ga shotguns in my bedroom and my .357 magnum in SP101. The shotgun should be my first choice if God forbid I ever need it.

JohnB
November 1, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nice ten point John!

Roll Tide!
Thanks. Bad camera angle that I had not noticed until you said 10. Actually 11 points. There is a 3 incher on his right side near the horizontal tine. I guess I need to make a better picture so I can brag to the fullest extent. ;)

DammitBoy
November 2, 2012, 10:03 AM
Thanks. Bad camera angle that I had not noticed until you said 10. Actually 11 points. There is a 3 incher on his right side near the horizontal tine. I guess I need to make a better picture so I can brag to the fullest extent. ;)

Blame it on living near Auburn... :D

JohnB
November 2, 2012, 09:57 PM
Blame it on living near Auburn... :D

Boy, I live 250 miles from Aubrun. :barf:

ROLL TIDE!

Kachok
November 2, 2012, 10:15 PM
Roll tide!!! :D

red rick
November 2, 2012, 10:20 PM
I just patterned my new SG today for buckshot.

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