Gen 4 Glock 17 -- Made in USA


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KAS1981
October 27, 2012, 12:42 AM
Anybody seen many made in USA Glocks? Just picked mine up today and it has "USA" stamped on the slide where "AUSTRIA" is. The test fire date is 10-2-12.

Looking at all the Gen 4's on Gun Broker, they all say Austria.

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StrikeFire83
October 27, 2012, 12:46 AM
I'm interested in this. Could you post a pic???

tacxted
October 27, 2012, 01:01 AM
aftermarket lone wolf slide?

KAS1981
October 27, 2012, 01:30 AM
Found my answer!

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1445827

MachIVshooter
October 27, 2012, 11:16 AM
A smart move. Proud Americans who like Glocks can now have their cake and eat it too. Wish my 20 was stamped this way.........

ku4hx
October 27, 2012, 11:30 AM
Yep, good ol' Georgia folk. You should go meet them if you ever get the chance ... nice people.

MachIVshooter
October 27, 2012, 12:15 PM
Yep, good ol' Georgia folk. You should go meet them if you ever get the chance ... nice people.

I found the folks to be pleasant in general.

However, when you're used to the air in a dry, high-altitude mountain state, you'll find the East coast and South in general to be sticky/stagnant/musty. And it takes WAYYYYY too much liquor to catch a buzz.........

tarosean
October 27, 2012, 12:56 PM
So are they actually making all the parts here or just stamping assemblies imported?

ku4hx
October 28, 2012, 03:37 AM
However, when you're used to the air in a dry, high-altitude mountain state, you'll find the East coast and South in general to be sticky/stagnant/musty. And it takes WAYYYYY too much liquor to catch a buzz.........
Having lived here for nigh onto 67 years, I don't find the weather a problem. We all just refer to the climatic conditions as that which separates the men from the boys down South.

With regards to the difficulty in obtaining your buzz ..... you are most assuredly drinking the wrong stuff.

powder
October 28, 2012, 11:19 AM
Good on Glock!

More job security for American gunners!!

Fire me up some blue label G19s and another 34! Get some!

Thank You Glock!!

wild cat mccane
October 28, 2012, 12:08 PM
I would argue the point that the "proud American made"
idea is a bit off here.

What do you think those American workers are doing? I bet it is a pretty menial standard line job and non education is required. This is great for those people, but the company would just as soon purchase a machine that could do the same menial work for cheaper. The Glock certainly exemplifies the most standard and boringly non-intricate creation of modern technology.

The "proud" to purchase "American" products should be the DESIGN part. What is in a glock? machine mass produce slides and springs? a plastic mold? All automated procedures up to a cost.

These are not sustainable jobs.

And if you disagree, we can point out that the US's firearm importation restrictions essentially created these US jobs because Glock found it cheaper to producer here than to transport to the US.

Jaymo
October 28, 2012, 12:27 PM
Ed's is one of my LGSs. They have any flavor of Block you could want, except for used G19s. Nobody around here seems to have them, and when they do, they sell for nearly as much as a brand new one. Ammo costs have caused a huge resurgence in 9mm popularity.
I think I've handled every used 22, 23, 20, and 37 they've had, trying to find the right one for me.
If you need a Glock, new or used, they've got it.
Had I been looking for a .40, I would have been set. I just don't have a use for .40, when I already have 9 and .45. I don't need my ammo logistics to be any more of a Charlie Foxtrot than it already is.
I've gotten some great deals there.

351 WINCHESTER
October 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Folks, it's all about money for Glock. It has nothing to do with bringing jobs to America.

powder
October 29, 2012, 10:31 AM
I'm NOT a Glock fanboi, but I do love the Glock Company spirit:

Excellent products, support LE like no other pistol company I've experienced, organization for their Armorer's courses is second to none. GSSF-is there a comparable Organization for S&W, SA, or even say STI? Nope.

I'd even go one step further and say their education programs are SEVERAL steps ahead of the NRA's.

We all have personal preferences in brand names, calibers, hand size, etc..

So, lots of differences to look at. However, in these economic times, why are there Americans questioning a firearms company digging in with further commitments to American jobs, in Georgia? I don't see any stories about Springfield bringing jobs home to the USA, from Croatia or South America. People are jealous, angry about good paying jobs, or envious that their beloved brand name Xxx hasn't brought Production home to the U.S.?

Congratulations Glock, for making another excellent set of decisions and committing to the USA. Thank You.

MachIVshooter
October 29, 2012, 11:51 AM
we can point out that the US's firearm importation restrictions essentially created these US jobs because Glock found it cheaper to producer here than to transport to the US.

Which stands in start contrast to what has happened with most manufacturing jobs here.

I wish more industries were set up so that importing was more costly than domestic manufacture. Unfortunately, our tax system does just the opposite, and that's why this country is failing.

I'm one of those people who always looks at country of origin, and I'm willing to pay more for American goods, both because of patriotism and product quality. But often times, it's not even an option.

PabloJ
October 29, 2012, 01:13 PM
I prefer to buy quality products made in USA. When in Europe I was able to buy fine Swedish-made strap for my Ithaca 37 for same price as Chinese-made one would cost me here. It's nice to know there are some countries out there where people make products in their own countries and are able to sell them.

powder
October 29, 2012, 10:47 PM
I'm one of those people who always looks at country of origin, and I'm willing to pay more for American goods, both because of patriotism and product quality. But often times, it's not even an option.

Right, so it's nice to support US jobs when we can.

jakk280rem
October 31, 2012, 05:44 AM
you wanna run that by me again.

there were some gen3 locks marked us. from what i understand only the injection molded frame is made in the us. the rest of the pistol is still imported.

both of my locks say "made in Austria" on them and i could care less. my smith & wessons all said made in usages on them and my Springfield armory .dm days made in Croatia and I'm okay with that too.

mgmorden
October 31, 2012, 09:17 AM
Generally I don't care where its made, but if they're truly making them here then this makes having a Glock 25 in this country a much more plausible thing. I'd think they could do at least a limited run of them that they could easily sell given how long people haven't been able to get them here.

Kyle M.
October 31, 2012, 09:20 AM
My g34 had a usa frame with an austrian slide and barrel. I knew they were starting to produce the entire pistol in the U.S. but I didn't realize they were available yet.

JoeMal
October 31, 2012, 09:36 AM
I'm interested to see if the US versions hold up and shoot as expected as a non-US Glock

JShirley
October 31, 2012, 10:35 AM
There have been some VERY silly political posts in this thread.

First, the statements made have been utterly ridiculous, and make the posters look like raving lunatics, no matter which side of the political spectrum you shine in.

Second, you are, apparently deliberately, injecting politics into the dialog. It's one thing to say a simple, "I prefer buying US made products" (America of course being a continent), or "I don't care where it's made as long as it's quality and good value". It's something else entirely to start sounding like the wackier talk radio hosts.

Don't do it again.

John

PabloJ
October 31, 2012, 12:22 PM
If quality is good I will buy American-made products first because I live HERE. Glock 29 Made in USA.....I can hardly wait. I want one.

HKGuns
October 31, 2012, 11:30 PM
I think WildCat nailed it. The well paying jobs remain in Austria for pretty much everything, you can bet on it. In addition, they are probably saving themselves a lot of money and trouble with importation of firearms.

Regardless of your politics, you need to follow the money and most of the money off that product, is flowing back into Austria folks. They are NOT an American company. Neither is Honda, Toyota, Nissan or Mazda.

StrikeFire83
October 31, 2012, 11:35 PM
Wow, this thread went from interesting to stupid pretty quick.

Walking Dead
October 31, 2012, 11:45 PM
I think WildCat nailed it. The well paying jobs remain in Austria for pretty much everything, you can bet on it. In addition, they are probably saving themselves a lot of money and trouble with importation of firearms.

Regardless of your politics, you need to follow the money and most of the money off that product, is flowing back into Austria folks. They are NOT an American company. Neither is Honda, Toyota, Nissan or Mazda.
It don't matter if you think the good jobs are in Austria or whether the money flows back to Glocks bank account there. When that Georgia Glock employee cashes his check on Friday. That's really all that matters. Having an entry level manufacturing job at a company like Glock is a great stepping stone to a better job in manufacturing. You have to start somewhere.

wild cat mccane
November 1, 2012, 12:06 AM
Thank you for the endorsement. I am working on my PhD in economics right now. Glad I could make some sense out of the study.

It *does* matter that the worker gets a paycheck. Absolutely right. However, that is where it stops. Menial work alone (which no doubt assembling a Glock is) does not sustain worker growth. These types of jobs just hold until technology can replace. Auto industry is a great example. China is a great example of a country with menial jobs. They raise a lot of people out of poverty but that alone is where it stops. High skilled jobs (design) creates more high skilled jobs AND the menial jobs.

Education in universities and trade tech is about the largest multiplier effect, dollar for dollar, than anything available to increase a countries income.

Glock made in USA? great. Don't bet America's future on that nor assume you did America a huge favor by purchasing it. That gun would have been purchased regardless of origin.

tarosean
November 1, 2012, 01:14 AM
When that Georgia Glock employee cashes his check on Friday. That's really all that matters. Having an entry level manufacturing job at a company like Glock is a great stepping stone to a better job in manufacturing. You have to start somewhere.

They have been assembling parts in GA for many years for export to countries that do not have trade relations with Austria. So that's nothing new.

Im still thinking they are not producing anything other than a stamp on imported parts.

High skilled jobs (design) creates more high skilled jobs AND the menial jobs.

We are talking about Glock here... LOL. Their idea of design is take the same thing shorten a little here, a little there, and give it a new number.

Kiln
November 1, 2012, 05:09 AM
They have been assembling parts in GA for many years for export to countries that do not have trade relations with Austria. So that's nothing new.

Im still thinking they are not producing anything other than a stamp on imported parts.



We are talking about Glock here... LOL. Their idea of design is take the same thing shorten a little here, a little there, and give it a new number.
Exactly. New and innovative ideas haven't really came from Glock since they actually designed the original Glock 17.

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