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nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 12:40 AM
Curious , any of you guys shoot wild hogs with your cap and ball?http://youtu.be/AGq3Wslk1S0

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nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 12:51 AM
Sorry about my camera mans thumb.
This is a 275 lb boar that we trapped then fed out for a bit , first time he ever saw anybody in his pen and boom!
1858 rem. shorty .457 ball 30 grains fff goex

Hellgate
October 31, 2012, 01:43 AM
I finished off a doe mule deer with my 44 Sheriff's navy 44. 30grs FFFg + .454 ball sure did the trick. Besides the BOOM and smoke, it peeled back about 2 inches of hide off her forehead. Obviously it was very close range; one of those "Stand back & plug your ears" sort of things.

rodwha
October 31, 2012, 11:00 AM
Ear shot?
I bought some 240 grn bullets and T7 for hunting because I may run into one of those, though I certainly hope not to be that close!!! :what: If so I sure hope it drops like that!!! :eek:

Patocazador
October 31, 2012, 11:48 AM
This was from a tree stand at 35 yards with my Ruger Old Army and cast 210 gr. minie balls in front of 40 gr. of 4FG.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll33/docjawbraker/IMG_0406web.jpg

nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 11:57 AM
Center of the forehead right between the eyes

josiewales
October 31, 2012, 01:43 PM
dude, you look like Trace Adkins. :)

nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nope just NOBODY !

Crawdad1
October 31, 2012, 04:50 PM
I hunt groundHOGS with mine but a wild hog, now that would be a blast!!:cool:

nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 04:56 PM
If I'm hunting I carry my .45 cal longrifle , shooting them I carry my remmys

nobody1369
October 31, 2012, 05:01 PM
10-31-12 01:50 PM - Post#1207880 ***

****In response to bamaboy

Yes head shot, when we cleaned , skinned him you could put the water hose in his spinal column and water squirted out his bullet hole!
That was # 4 for the Remington , I quit carrying .357 magnum , I ve had to shoot one 4 times at that range to get same results!
.45 acp same distance hog coming fast one shot center forehead they sit down then fall over and quiver.
.457 roundball same results each time.
Most hogs 250 or better but in our large trap and pissed, gates 4 ft I'll stand and let them charge fire right before they jump or ram it!

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Pancho
October 31, 2012, 08:44 PM
Patocazador, What size minnie-ball do you use? Do you get the lead waste ring when you set the minnie?

Patocazador
November 1, 2012, 06:22 AM
Patocazador, What size minnie-ball do you use? Do you get the lead waste ring when you set the minnie?
Pancho,

I switched bullets since then. I was using the cone-shaped .456 210 gr. that my mold put out but switched to a Lee mold bullet that is flat-nosed and weighs 255 gr. It's more accurate and more deadly to the game. I used it to kill a small buck about a week ago.

Yes, they both left the lead ring when loading them.

Jim, West PA
November 1, 2012, 10:42 AM
So how much meat do you git out o' one them ?
I 'spect they taste nuthin like storbot ?

loose noose
November 1, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jim, I hunted wild bore up around Monterey, California, back in the late '70s, I shot a 250# bore and we got just over 160#s of meat off it. The bacon was really good, however the chops, were rather tough, and the hams were really fat, but tasty if I remember right. Further we had the entire bore smoked, before we took 'er home. I believe that is the only way to prepare a wild bore, but I may be wrong, it's happened here before.:D

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 11:23 AM
I've shot 'em in the head with a .22LR from a mini revolver and killed 'em. They ain't bulllet proof. I'd hunt with the ROA and may in the future. Loaded up with a 220 grain cast Lee HP to the max with 777, it rivals a magnum revolver, well, .357 Magnum, for energy.

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:25 AM
Bacon? Your correct not the amount of meat as store bought , but way better!
We cut the ribs off and deep freeze the spine for a week or so, then over to the 12" chop saw, inch and ahalf pork choPs! Do the same with the hams. Out back grab some mesquite and cook away. We smoke our own summer sausage too

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:29 AM
I quit carrying my .357 cause .457 roundball out performes big time, my shots arnt over ten ft away always coming at me

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 11:31 AM
I mostly grind pork for sausage. I do keep the hams for smoking and the backstrap, of course (AKA pork loin). I keep the ribs for BBQ, also. The rest makes sausage. :D

I trapped this one last year. 9x19 killed it quite dead. I had my CVA Wolf I'd been in the stand with, but didn't wanna clean it. LOL! I normally shoot 'em in the trap with whatever I'm carrying that day. I always have a CCW on me, is part of my clothing whenever I'm dressed. :D

http://i39.tinypic.com/107nclh.jpg

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:34 AM
All you need in that roa is one these fancy new soft roundballs and some goex fff , it cleans up with water!

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 11:36 AM
Goex is not available here. Where are you getting real BP? I've not seen any in 35 years on a shelf anywhere and I refuse to order it and pay a hazmat fee. Besides, my ROA loves 777. :D I shoot a lot of Pyrodex P and RS in the rifles.

Anyway, I never carry a BP revolver, usually have the 9 or my .38 or my .357 magnum on me. I've taken several HUNTING with a .357 blackhawk, too, 165 grain Keith style SWC at 1470 fps. It's deadly, too. Longest shot was 60 yards from a tripod stand.

Here's a .357 kill, little pig, I shot out of the trap as I was walking, about 17 yards, head shot.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1zzj2g3.jpg

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:41 AM
Mc brides in Austin . 3 to 4 hrs away so I buy 2 lbs at a time , about 4 times or so a year. 22 bucks each last month

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:44 AM
What part of tx you in

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 11:49 AM
Moving. Was in Port Lavaca for 30 years, Corpus for 2, now moving to between Sheridan and Rock Island....which is between Hallettsville and Eagle Lake....which is north of Victoria. :D I'm currently in an 18 ft travel trailer in Port O'Connor waiting to close on my house. Sold the one in Corpus over a month ago. I'd be going crazy, but my land is just down the road and I've been shooting a lot. :D

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:53 AM
And mcbrides won't tell you over the phone you have to go upstairs to the muzzle loading area and ask then you gO back down stairs and they ask you what your going to use it for then they put it in brown paper sack away from your caps I get a kick out of it!

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 11:55 AM
I live in south coleman county not far from Colorado river, 75 miles from Abilene

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 11:59 AM
Well, I'll be in Colorado county, just down stream.....two or three hundred miles...:D The Colorado cuts across 90A between Altair and Eagle Lake. Lotsa hogs in them woods and I have a few acres there with the house, enough room for the trap and a box blind/feeder. I'll probably tote my 5.5" '58 Remmy some and maybe shoot a pig with it at some point. :D That thing is accurate and toteable. The ROA is a bit of a brick on the hip. All my BP stuff is in storage at the moment except for the guns which I've kept with me. I haven't gotten to shoot a front loader in 2 months, mostly just .22s, but I like my .22s. :D

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 12:06 PM
My 100 yd range is 25 ft from my door , have a 500 yd range 5 miles away! My Remington shorty s are m. O. H. Minute of hog up to 100yds
Sand bags of course , only actually shoot hogs at 5 to 10 ft no sights just wait till they turn and charge And boom! Drops em like a rock, .357 mag required 4 shots so like I said it stays home now

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 12:13 PM
My pair of shorty s are always loaded but so is my 51 sheriff , walker , combat commander, Kentucky pistol, ....
Now if I'm hunting or scouting my remmy is on my hip my Stevens 311 is in my hand! 18.5 " barrels night time might be 13" barrels

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 12:15 PM
Never shot a hog with anything but a handgun

Jim, West PA
November 1, 2012, 12:37 PM
Thanx Noose, i figgered there was smokin involved in there somewhere.
I've tasted non smoked pork before and, well, there jist wernt no flavor to it.
Suprising that yer chops were tough.That area of an animal is the tenderest meat.

I bet bore huntin is a very exciting undertaking.
'specialy with a soot maker :D

Jim, West PA
November 1, 2012, 12:50 PM
McGunner and Noose,
You guys can be makin yer own black powder very easily and far cheaper than buyin it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=664864

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=672851

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 01:51 PM
Hmm, shot a buncha hogs with .357 and never needed, but one. The wounding is impressive. Heavy bullet for hunting. The little one in that pic I shot with my carry load, 140 grain Speer JHP bullet and from the 3" barrel of my carry gun, about 600 ft lbs. I load it over 17.0 grains 2400. It's hot. The pressure from it in that pig's head blew out his right eyeball 3" out of its socket. Kinda gory, didn't take the pic of it's right side. One thing about that little 3" carry, its sorta hard on the ears without hearing protection, but I guess if your life depends on it, I can get over the ringing eventually. LOL But, that's a price to pay for the horsepower. I don't even practice with .22s without hearing protection, though.

I've got a 180 grain XTP load pushes 1403 fps out of my 6.5" Blackhawk for 785 ft lbs. I've got a .45 Colt Blackhawk, too, that pushes a 300 grain XTP to 1120 fps for 800+ ft lbs from a 4 5/8" barrel. I need to kill one with that. I've shot a few in the trap with a cast 255 at about 950 fps, less than impressive compared to the .357, but it killed 'em. I'm sure the hot load will work better, just normally don't carry that load.

Then, I've shot 5 deer with my .30-30 handgun, a 2x scoped Contender. That one will put 1000 ft lbs on target at 200 yards and is 1.5 MOA accurate. My old eyes need the scope for that sort of precision. I'm not averse to modern technology, but I do like my black powder stuff. I will do more with it when I get settled. I have been thinkin' about killing SOMEthing with that ROA for 30 years and just haven't done it. It's a bucket list item, though.

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 02:03 PM
McGunner and Noose,
You guys can be makin yer own black powder very easily and far cheaper than buyin it.

Yeah, I know, have several spots bookmarked. But, I'd rather just buy it...or a suitable substitute. The ONLY thing I don't like about the subs is that they're tougher to ignite. I won't even GO there with Blackhorn 209. Takes a blasting cap to torch that stuff. I know, I know, clean out the breach block hole, NAH, rather shoot 777 anyway. Can see absolutely NO advantage in the Blackhorn 209. 777 is accurate and powerful and goes bang without the hassles.

If I could easily get BP, I'd shoot it a lot due to the ease of ignition, so long as it was accurate in my gun. I would probably still hunt with 777 in the iinline, but I'd shoot BP in lieu of Pyrodex in my sidelocks and my revolvers. Where you can get it, it tends to be a little cheaper, too, but the ease of ignition is the deal with me. It performs no better otherwise. Caps torch Pyrodex just fine in my revolvers, but in sidelocks, it's an iffy deal. I converted one Hawken to fire number 450 magnum small rifle primers. THAT did the trick. :D The other, I just pull the nipple and dribble a little powder under it, insures ignition. With 2F, I wouldn't have that problem. But, I ain't drivin' to Austin just for powder. I mean, if it was 30 miles away, I'd avoid the traffic. Besides, I'm an Aggie, am allergic to that town. :D

Once I get out there in the woods and if'n I get real bored, I might mess with the BP synthesis thing. I can probably find willow along the river somewhere. One can order KNO3 and Sulfur online for the production of BP, high purity. I know about the feed store sources, too. I don't have any sieves, would prefer to screen it for proper granulation if I got into that. I've found sieve screens on ebay for about 40 bucks. Yeah, I've researched the subject.

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oh, and you don't even need a gun of any kind to kill hogs. I've killed 'em with a filet knife. :D

nobody1369
November 1, 2012, 04:43 PM
Just finished skinning a 250 # sow trapped this morn

Jim, West PA
November 1, 2012, 06:02 PM
Do you jerk any Noose ?
Is it possible to jerk pork ?

Hellgate
November 1, 2012, 06:06 PM
You can jerk anything but you had better be sure it is COOKED or brined well. Pork is famous for tapeworms and trichinosis. Cooking kills the parasites.

MCgunner
November 1, 2012, 07:44 PM
You can jerk anything but you had better be sure it is COOKED or brined well. Pork is famous for tapeworms and trichinosis.

I do NOT jerk pork for this very reason. That's what venison is for. :D

Jim, West PA
November 2, 2012, 01:05 AM
Tapeworms and tricky noses ??
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=171571&d=1347459327

tom e gun
November 2, 2012, 03:44 AM
on the subject of black powder availability, someone put a link up recently to grafs and sons, that had pretty reasonable prices for real BP. plus if you were to order a few pounds at once it would lessen the impact of the hazard fee since they only have the one charge. i believe it was around $10-12 a pound for their BP. i kinda want to order me a few pounds as i have never shot the real stuff :(
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/3501?grafs_vendor_filter=&grafs_sorting_flydown=price_asc&_swat_form_character_encoding=%C3%A4%E2%84%A2%C2%AE&_swat_form_process=grafs_sorting_form&_swat_form_serialized__swat_form_process=auRBAfJoHpPQd2FWx7MVIQ|s%3A18%3A%22grafs_sorting_form%22%3B&_swat_form_hidden_fields=fDk71VXcXJddn45*bdDhwg|a%3A1%3A{i%3A0%3Bs%3A18%3A%22_swat_form_process%22%3B}

MCgunner
November 4, 2012, 12:23 AM
I shot plenty of BP back in the day when gun shops kept it on the shelf with the other powders. DuPont was mostly what I got back then. I don't really notice ANY difference in BP and Pyrodex EXCEPT BP ignites more easily and that's kinda a big deal in a sidelock. A FLINTER of course, MUST have the real stuff for proper ignition.

Yeah, I've thought about ordering it. I might in the future once I get settled and the UPS guy knows where I am, only house 2 miles down a dirt road off the highway at the end of the road. No one has found it, yet. :rolleyes: Well, we finally found an electric company to hook us up that has serviced the house for the previous owners. LOL Suffice to say, when I get there, I'll be able to shoot my BP stuff on my own range whenever I want. :D THAT will be way cool. I might have to get me some 2F for my CVA caplock rifle. I like shooting PRBs in that gun. :D

Oh, and I'll have some acreage with the house and the woods are infested with hogs and deer. :D

Fatelvis
November 12, 2012, 07:25 AM
I like this bullet in my ROA.
http://http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=71852f19-e55b-4d6f-aadc-4f3b186e6e27 (http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=71852f19-e55b-4d6f-aadc-4f3b186e6e27)

Patocazador
November 12, 2012, 10:42 AM
I like this bullet in my ROA.
http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=09d6fdda-c105-4c87-b269-68ebfdaba982
link is no good.

Fatelvis
November 12, 2012, 08:04 PM
Try it now, I think I fixed it!
http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=71852f19-e55b-4d6f-aadc-4f3b186e6e27

7.62 Nato
November 12, 2012, 08:39 PM
Link still not working.

Patocazador
November 13, 2012, 12:04 PM
canceled post

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