Spanish 25


murdoc rose
November 1, 2012, 11:38 AM
Its a 25 proofed at eibar in 1928 likely late in the year because of the b date code as well as ringed p (they switched to the ring p in dec 14 1928 I believe though most sources say simply 1929).
The slide simply says pistol automatic but there does look like a makers trademark on the frame but was drilled though for the grip screw. I can see only a small section of it.

Any one ever seen these grips before? Don't worry I know its not worth anything. (

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November 1, 2012, 03:50 PM
Looks like the grips say "Falcon", which was a model designation used by Astra. It's basically a copy of the .25 Baby Colt. Astra made another .25 that copied the Baby Browning called the "Victoria", but its grip screw was in the center of the grip, not the back edge like the Colt and Colt copies.
It looks like the grips from an Astra Cub/Colt Junior would fit what you've got there.

murdoc rose
November 1, 2012, 04:48 PM
The grips say cal 6.35.

November 1, 2012, 05:29 PM
The grips say cal 6.35.
The European designation for the .25 ACP. The big star on the logo made me think of Astra, but Star and Ruby also made knockoffs of the Colt and FN Browning pocket pistols.

Shadow 7D
November 1, 2012, 05:35 PM
take it to Gunboards forums, and post it on the spanish forum, they have some guys who are just amazing on spanish arms, generally speaking it's a simplified version of a browning/FN vest pocket, kinda a baby ruby, cute as hell eh.

murdoc rose
November 1, 2012, 06:55 PM
I'm 100% sure its not an astra though very similar.

I'll try that shadow

November 1, 2012, 07:12 PM
My sister's 49-year-old Astra for comparison.

November 1, 2012, 11:12 PM
IIRC, Star Bonifacio Echeverria made a clone too, but the logo on the grips don't quite match with other samples I've seen. Puzzling, but a neat piece.

November 2, 2012, 08:48 AM
Zhuk shows a pistol with this logo as an "Olympia", but with the maker unknown; HTH.

November 2, 2012, 04:03 PM
A lot of the Spanish gun makers simplified the BrowningFN/Colt design by leaving off the grip safety. The small makers often didn't put a makers' name on their guns, either, maybe to prevent lawsuits from patent holders of the original design.

Jim K
November 2, 2012, 08:34 PM
The main way the Spanish (and others) simplified the Colt/Browning design was by using a hammer with the safety above and behind the trigger, blocking trigger movement. The Colt Model 1908 and Browning Model 1905 use a striker and the thumb safety (when present - the first Brownings didn't have one) blocks the sear.

The fitting of that design is much more difficult, which is why the Spanish makers didn't use it even though it is theoetically safer. In fact, with a half cock notch in the hammer, the Spanish guns are quite safe; if the hammer is jarred off full cock, it will be stopped by the half cock notch.


November 5, 2012, 11:27 PM
Certainly looks like a clone of a Colt 1908 vest pocket pistol with a modification to a large external extractor.

Found this:

and this:

murdoc rose
November 6, 2012, 08:56 PM
There are plenty of similar guns out there but I've never seen these grips before.

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