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raa-7
November 2, 2012, 12:38 PM
I have a 1858 New Army Remington Replica and this is my first black powder revolver and I get good accuracy from it with a .454 round ball.Can anyone recommend a good conical bullet that I can shoot? It's mainly for shootting paper out to 50yds or so, and I would like to use it for future deer/hog hunting.I like to cast my own bullets so if I can get a good mold for them,that would be great.So far I looked at the Lee molds but not much on conical bullets for a .44,unless I missed something? ? Any help would be great thank you and happy shooting. Ron

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Patocazador
November 2, 2012, 03:19 PM
You didn't say what pistol you have.

There are several molds out there. Lee has a 220 gr. conical and a 255 gr. flat nose that is better for hunting.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/7814

The conical part no. is 90384 and the flat nose is 90358.
http://leeprecision.com/mold-dc-452-255-rf.html

Cosmoline
November 2, 2012, 03:30 PM
I've been having fun seating these backwards. They load easier and still give good 15 yard groups.

Hellgate
November 3, 2012, 02:07 AM
Raa-7,
What model of gun do you have? A remington of any make will accept the LEE conicals as will the ROA. Navy style Colts won't. SOME 1860 Armies will (Uberti and some ASMs will, Piettas won't).

Captain*kirk
November 3, 2012, 02:12 AM
I cast and load the Lee conicals and while accuracy is not equal to a properly sized rb, it's decent and they hit much harder

Skinny 1950
November 3, 2012, 05:37 AM
The longer bullet is going to be harder to load on a Colt due to limited space under the loading ram, a rebated bullet base will allow the base to enter the chamber and align it for ramming. I haven't found a mould that has a rebated base but I do have one that produces .452 round nose flat base 230 grain bullets that I use for .45 Colt cartridges and .45ACP.
I am thinking of making some kind of tool to re-form these bullets at the base for use in my .44's.

Patocazador
November 3, 2012, 05:43 AM
The longer bullet is going to be harder to load on a Colt due to limited space under the loading ram, a rebated bullet base will allow the base to enter the chamber and align it for ramming. I haven't found a mould that has a rebated base but I do have one that produces .452 round nose flat base 230 grain bullets that I use for .45 Colt cartridges and .45ACP.
I am thinking of making some kind of tool to re-form these bullets at the base for use in my .44's.
If I have a length problem in loading a long bullet, I take a pocket knife and 'rebate' the base with it. It's crude but it works.

fineredmist
November 3, 2012, 09:14 AM
Loading a cap and ball revolver is the same as loading cartridges, you must be consistent and experiment with different charges. It may take a little time but there is a optimum load for each pistol that will give you the accuracy you want. The next item, powder compression is extremely important as too much or too little will produce extreme variation in velocity which means poor accuracy. The loading procedure is simple enough but to get the most out of the arm you need to experiment and then load consistently.

raa-7
November 3, 2012, 12:36 PM
Yeah I forgot to say which revolver,but I have the 1858 New Army Remington from cabelas. Thanks for the info for sure! And I just ordered a .454 round ball mold and want to get a good conical mold too.What about some of the .45 acp molds for round nose bullets ? Thanks again for all your replies. -ron

MCgunner
November 3, 2012, 12:48 PM
I have a Lee 220 conical mold in .457", both the standard round nose and the hollow point that I shoot in my ROA. Both are very accurate in the gun and mostly what I shoot out of it. I generally cast the hollow point just so that I can distinguish it from my .454" mold I use with my Remmy which is a round nose. I really prefer shooting round ball in the Remmy and my .44 caliber Navy, though, as RB is more accurate in those guns, but YMMV.

MCgunner
November 3, 2012, 12:53 PM
What model of gun do you have? A remington of any make will accept the LEE conicals as will the ROA. Navy style Colts won't. SOME 1860 Armies will (Uberti and some ASMs will, Piettas won't)

I take the cylinder off my Navy and use a press to load it, not a problem. :D

Oh, BTW, those LEE conicals have rebated bases, but still tough to load them in the navy with the ram on the gun, but I CAN do it. It's a lot easier just to remove the cylinder.

raa-7
November 3, 2012, 01:02 PM
Yeah the round ball is as accurate as I can shoot it out of this revolver.I'm happy with it and I did,nt expect it to be that good.I'm getting like 11/2 -2'' groups at about 15 to 20 yards.That's resting on my picnic table.Thats good for me. I'm estimating on this because I have not got around to any serious shooting yet but I will. But I would like to have another round I could shoot.Also I might try it out hunting in the future.

raa-7
November 3, 2012, 03:26 PM
Thanks Bob,that 255 grain flat nose is what I want and thank you everyone for your information on this.

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