Family Guns: Epic idiots!


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Clipper
November 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
Just watched an episode, and watched the owner's son take a shot at a squirrel, in a tree, clear sky behind, with his DEER RIFLE!!!

...Of course he missed...

I expect to see these reality guys act like gold-plated idiots, but this is not only stupid, it's criminally dangerous, and should be protested in the strongest terms.

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Walkalong
November 2, 2012, 06:20 PM
While we don't do TV shows, a good talk on gun safety is always a good idea.

monotonous_iterancy
November 2, 2012, 06:21 PM
I didn't see it, but was the issue the tree or the caliber used?

silicosys4
November 2, 2012, 06:25 PM
I'd say the issue is shooting up into the sky with a high powered rifle, and having no idea where the bullet is going, or landing, or whats going to be under it when it lands. I am extremely dissapointed with how reality television is portraying guns and gunowners. I live in the same town as one of the "american loggers" crews. They went around and found the most accident prone, drama laden logging crew they could, because thats what makes for interesting television

Same with their gun shows. They pick the least professional, most soap-operaesque shop they can find and run with it, because its interesting to non-gun owners...kind of like a train accident
and I swear it's purposefully displaying gun owners as ignorant and unsafe, to pervert public perception and encourage unsafe firearm handling

Hunterdad
November 2, 2012, 06:31 PM
I lasted about 30 seconds watching that show a few days ago. While I am all for gun related shows on TV, it seems that all the "reality" shows are ridiculous. Sons of Guns, Family Guns and those morons from Gunsmoke make gun owners look like idiots.

monotonous_iterancy
November 2, 2012, 06:32 PM
Oh. I thought you meant he was sitting in a tree shooting downwards. I re-read it, I get it now. Shooting into the sky is very dangerous.

Sheepdog1968
November 2, 2012, 06:49 PM
In general they seem to emphasize safety (hearing and eyes). In fact, one of the reasons I think Rich wears the over the ears type is so it can be seen he's wearing protection. Sounds like in this instance an unsafe thing was shown.

Wangmuf
November 2, 2012, 07:54 PM
Do we know if this was public land, or is it entirely possible that this was a privately owned several thousand acre spread where there was no reason to believe that there would be anyone or anything within miles in the direction the shot was taken?

RTR_RTR
November 2, 2012, 07:59 PM
I'd say the issue is shooting up into the sky with a high powered rifle

I would rather say "with any non-birdshot round"

animator
November 3, 2012, 12:14 AM
[Conspiracy Theory] Make all gun-related TV shows make gun owners look like idiots to the mainstream audience, therefore mainstream audience develops abhorrent contempt for gun owners, therefore abhorrent contempt prompts more gun regulation from an increasingly accepting public [/Conspiracy Theory]



lol :)

303tom
November 3, 2012, 12:20 AM
I don`t watch the crap................

Skribs
November 3, 2012, 03:23 AM
RTR, I thought birdshot was mainly used in smoothbores, not rifles.

MachIVshooter
November 3, 2012, 04:00 AM
I lasted about 30 seconds watching that show a few days ago. While I am all for gun related shows on TV, it seems that all the "reality" shows are ridiculous. Sons of Guns, Family Guns and those morons from Gunsmoke make gun owners look like idiots.

Well, there is definitely one part of American Guns worth watching....

Last time I was in that shop was about 3 years ago, before the cameras. Rich is a nice guy, and I got a good deal on a SxS 12 ga. He really wanted the NIB '73 commercial Luger I was thinking about trading, but he wasn't willing to go quite as much as I needed to get out of it.

I expect things have changed quite a bit, but maybe I'll drop by there some time and find out.

Harley Rider 55
November 3, 2012, 07:06 AM
Those shows are NOT reality shows. They are reality BASED shows. It's scripted stuff desogned to entertain.

Yelovitz_503
November 3, 2012, 07:55 AM
I'd bet money that he fired a blank. TV producers aren't idiots (even though they'd like you to be one) they're not going to risk the potential lawsuit. It's reality based, so he probably just missed a shot and then they recreated it in a 'plain as a cat's backside' situation that the least gun-familiar person could follow. These are more like cartoons with real people in them, even though it's debatable how real a depiction you're getting of that person anyway.:confused:

scaatylobo
November 3, 2012, 10:53 AM
I watched all of the "gun" shows and now choose to ignore all that "reality" type garbage.

If it helps put the light on those that are stupid and abusive of TRTK&BA - then I dont like it.

I am one that does not agree with the thought that ANY gun/survival show is good as long as it shines the light on 'our' beliefs.

I wish they would do it correctly ,or not bother.

I know I wont ---- bother.

jcredman
November 3, 2012, 11:52 AM
I agree with Harley Rider 55, but the problem today is that common sense is being breed out of the american public, and they dont understand the difference between entertainment and reality. Its to the point now, a lot of people dont have the common sense or know how to pick up a screwdriver and fix a loose doorknob, and that is scary to me, they are the same people who think food comes from he store.

barnbwt
November 3, 2012, 12:17 PM
Do we know if this was public land, or is it entirely possible that this was a privately owned several thousand acre spread where there was no reason to believe that there would be anyone or anything within miles in the direction the shot was taken?

If the situation occurred as described (i.e. rifle round pointed up at a significant angle with no backstop) I scarcely think it matters; that round would travel several miles--well beyond a known target-- which is nonetheless inexecusable whether or not there is reason to believe anyone or anything downrange.

I'm with the guy who thinks it's a blank. I'd bet money that every shot that doesn't have the target and shooter in the same frame is a blank. Every projectile out of those things is nothing but a risk-assessment by the producers.

I also buy into the conspiracy angle, though I don't think it's malicious. Ya'll yankees up nawth have always seen non-city folk as brain-dead Jethros blastin' at everything; the whole "Redneck" thing that's in vogue now is popular simply because it fits into peoples' prejudices.

TCB

hso
November 3, 2012, 03:51 PM
There are some great historical firearms shown and insight into the collectable firearms market, but there are some unsafe gun handling mistakes shown by the family.

Onmilo
November 3, 2012, 07:24 PM
I have dealt with the old man from IMSA for many years. He knows guns and you watch closely, he isn't making handling mistakes. The kid came into the business with a businessmans nature. He isn't into guns like the old man, he is into business and making money.
The guys working for them are shown as typical show for effect specials, happy clodhoppers trundling through life.
Listen to what they say and you will realize they aren't as stupid as the show makes them appear.
All for entertainment and these folks are great to deal with if you get to know them.

SSN Vet
November 5, 2012, 10:06 AM
#4 Be sure of your target and what's beyond....

When firing a center fire rifle into the air, you can't be sure of what's beyond your target, as the round will land far beyond the distance you can see.

leadcounsel
December 4, 2012, 05:38 AM
Yes, Epic idiots.

First, terribly unsafe practices. They found a loaded cannon in the lot, and are standing there looking down the barrel, etc. Trying to get the cannonball out by blowing compressed air into the barrel while a guy looks down the barrel.... omg!!! Now I don't know if it's unsafe or not, but just stupid.

The owners's son is a complete moron. Trying to sell his dads's favorite guns from his personal collection out from behind his back.

The son has almost zero knowledge of guns and just demonstrates his incompetence in every conversation. And he screws over his customers. He bought a pistol for $1000, then turned around and lied to a customer and sold it for $2000...

They had a Mosin Nagant sniper rifle and the owner's son fired three shots and missed the target each time. Then a trained shooter (SWAT sniper) shot it and hit the target in both of his shots.

His employees firing these cannons and rifles are just morons. No headspace checks, and they don't really seem to know what they're doing...

I am just shocked at how incredibly bad this show is. And how careless these guys are.

Robert
December 4, 2012, 08:24 AM
Repeat after me, tv is not real.

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