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wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 12:53 PM
Is it worth it in today's market to try and sell once fired brass? If so where is the best market place to do it?

I have toiled with this question often and wondered if it would be worth it to deprime and tumble them to sell them.

If you answer yes what is the fastest way these days to do this task. A hand loader I realize would do the job but we are talking I have access to thousands of rounds and just want to make sure I have the fastest of options.

Thank you in advance for any help given.

Bill from Missouri

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jcwit
November 3, 2012, 12:58 PM
I've always been able to sell my extras at gun shows.

In todays market one can even make a little cash turning in spent .22 rimfire cases.

Turned in $1,000 worth last summer.

Flt Simulation
November 3, 2012, 12:59 PM
I think there is a market for used brass. In fact, I just started loading .45ACP

Since I didn't have but a few cases to begin with, I bought 2,000 so-called "once fired" brass cases from a guy on the 1911 Forum for $100 (5 cents a piece)

Still had the primers in them, and they had not been tumbled. (however, none of it was bent up though).

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 01:05 PM
Out of curiosity...would you have paid more if they were de-primed and tumbled?

Flt Simulation
November 3, 2012, 01:10 PM
I would certainly like that better, but since I have a tumbler myself, and my sizing die also de-primes ... I doubt I would pay much more than what I originally paid.

Just my opinion.

I just wanted brass that all had the same size primer pockets, that did not include any steel cases, and was not bent-up (like some of it you find on the ranges).

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the info. I just wanted to get some info to get into this business. I thought ebay would be a good place but I do not see any brass on Ebay...and of course gun shows and the normal gun sites.

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oh and the fastest way to de prime a lot of rounds quickly? (if there is such a device) I have not been able to find anything online.

Lost Sheep
November 3, 2012, 01:27 PM
Is it worth it in today's market to try and sell once fired brass? If so where is the best market place to do it?

I have toiled with this question often and wondered if it would be worth it to deprime and tumble them to sell them.

If you answer yes what is the fastest way these days to do this task. A hand loader I realize would do the job but we are talking I have access to thousands of rounds and just want to make sure I have the fastest of options.

Thank you in advance for any help given.

Bill from Missouri
Craigslist is not firearms-friendly, but some local administrators are more lax than others. There are other bulletin board type forums, too, on which you can post, including this forum which has a subforum dedicated to buying and selling. There are usually local firearms/sporting forums you can join, too.

There are local buy-and-sell forums that have a unique advantage over the bulletin board type forums: speed. Subscribers don't have to proactively go to the board to see your notice. The forum will forward your post to all subscribers (those who have not turned off the option) immediately or in a daily summary. This puts your offer in front of all those eyeballs much faster than the bulletin-board type forums, albeit a smaller number. They usually have smaller audiences/members. Yahoogroups hosts one in my area (and I think all over the country/world, too).

The tradeoff of speed vs population (the reposting forums like Yahoo! groups vs the more popular bulletin board type like Craigslist or your local firearms-related forums) is your choice. Or you can do both simultaneously.

Good luck.

Lost Sheep

dab102999
November 3, 2012, 01:31 PM
Craigslist isnt firearm friendly but i can always find reloading stuff on it.

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 01:42 PM
Craigslist isnt firearm friendly but i can always find reloading stuff on it.
Yeah it seems there is brass available here as well. That is a good option. Still looking for the fastest way to deprime the brass also. I use to work for MidwayUSA and I know of the universal die but wondering if there is a way to do multiple "rounds" at once.

GLOOB
November 3, 2012, 01:56 PM
I wouldnt deprime or tumble. Id buy a big rotating media separator. Get the dirt and rocks out. Thats it.

Blue68f100
November 3, 2012, 01:59 PM
I just use my brass feeder with a universal deprimer. The last time I did it I was doing 200/9mm in less than 9min. Fast as I could operate the the one arm bandit.

Otto
November 3, 2012, 02:05 PM
You'll get more money for your brass if you sort by head stamp.
Depriming is a waste of time. Tumbling doesn't really increase the value either.

GLOOB
November 3, 2012, 02:18 PM
Deprimed brass is actually less desirable to some folks. If you batch process cases, deprimed cases can get mixed up with sized cases. One of the commercial reloading outfits I know won't take cases that have been deprimed.

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 02:20 PM
Thank you for your advice! I do not know if this will be a good business venture but I figured why not try.

slowr1der
November 3, 2012, 02:23 PM
I also probably wouldn't buy deprimed brass. The color of the primers is one of the first things to look at if trying to tell if brass has been reloaded. If the color of the primers is different than what it should be you obviously know it has been reloaded. I'd much rather deprime and resize them myself and plus then I know it is done how I like it to be done. Now, tumbled brass is nice IMO.

If was going to sell it, I would sell it still primed, but possibly offer an option to pay slightly extra if you want it deprimed before sent out. That way if someone wants to pay more for that they can, but you wouldn't eliminate other customers.

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 02:33 PM
I also probably wouldn't buy deprimed brass. The color of the primers is one of the first things to look at if trying to tell if brass has been reloaded. If the color of the primers is different than what it should be you obviously know it has been reloaded. I'd much rather deprime and resize them myself and plus then I know it is done how I like it to be done. Now, tumbled brass is nice IMO.

If was going to sell it, I would sell it still primed, but possibly offer an option to pay slightly extra if you want it deprimed before sent out. That way if someone wants to pay more for that they can, but you wouldn't eliminate other customers.
great advice....Thanks again for all the help guys! I have always wanted to get into the firearms business...and this is the cheap alternative for someone who doesn't have TONS of revenue.

Flt Simulation
November 3, 2012, 02:34 PM
The main thing is ... Don't sell a mixture of small and large primer brass.

Some people like myself want small primer brass ... others want large.

But nobody wants to pick though all that brass and separate the two. (boring job, and will make your eyes start seeing double after awhile) :eek:

Sure I will sort through free brass I get from the range, but if I am paying for it, I don't want to have to sort through all of it separating the small from the large primer.

wstoldt
November 3, 2012, 02:42 PM
Ok so separate head stamps, Separate primer size, and tumble only with the option of depriming if the customer wants it....got it.

You guys are a big help! Hopefully I will be bringing back some great brass at a very reasonable price. All my stuff is once fired off a police range, so no problem there!

Thanks again for the help!

Bill

Sheepdog1968
November 3, 2012, 03:01 PM
A friend of mine sells his on a gunforum that caters to the state he lives in. It sells no problem. Do doesn't do anything after he shoots it. I forgot what he was getting but it was decent enough for me to start collection my once fired 30-06 and 30-30 and 45-70.

greyling22
November 3, 2012, 04:09 PM
you can, and here is an outfit that does it. (to give you an idea of pricing and availability) http://store.brassmanbrass.com/servlet/StoreFront

however, unless you have lots of oddball calibers or stuff that is not generally found on the ground at the range (257 rob, 44mag for example) I don't think i'ts worth it if you have to ship. I mean, I wouldn't give more than a a penny or so a round of the common stuff (9mm/556/40sw/38) and I don't think that's even scrap value. You certainly can't ship it for that. I just threw away 250 cases of 556 range brass that weren't worth taking to the scrap yard or selling and shipping.

Flt Simulation
November 3, 2012, 05:01 PM
I do know that the guy I bought my cases from shipped them in one of those USPS "Priority Mail Flat Rate" boxes that the post office sells ...

Features:
Priority Mail service offers 2-3 day service to most domestic destinations. Priority Mail Medium Flat Rate Boxes are available at many Post Offices and can be ordered online at usps.com. You can print Priority Mail labels and postage with Click-N-Ship at usps.com and receive a price discount.

Domestic Prices:
Priority Mail Medium Flat Rate Boxes (11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2") are one low price ($11.35) to all U.S. destinations, regardless of the actual weight of the piece. Discounts are available through Click-N-Ship at usps.com

He was able to put a bag of 2,000 .45ACP cases in that box.

https://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail-flat.htm

rfwobbly
November 3, 2012, 07:49 PM
One Small Correction: When you use the USPS "flat rate" shipping system, the PO gives you the specially marked boxes for FREE.

Flt Simulation
November 3, 2012, 07:54 PM
Well, I was meaning to say that the box don't cost $11.35

The box is free, and the cost to ship it anywhere in the US is $11.35 regardless of the weight.

FROGO207
November 4, 2012, 06:17 AM
And the brass is worth scrap value if it is not reloadable (damaged or rimfire). So save that until there is enough for a trip to the recyclers. FWIW if you want to deprime it for a price might as well set up a press and get the sizing die for each caliber (Lee is the cheapest and will sell individual dies) and offer it sized and deprimed while you are at it. That would more likely be worth it to me rather than just deprimed. If you are going to put an effort into a pull of the handle on a press you should add more value to it.:) Just MHO

The trading post here will be a good place to sell some brass so don't forget us on this forum if you decide to ship your brass.:D

wstoldt
November 4, 2012, 10:05 AM
And the brass is worth scrap value if it is not reloadable (damaged or rimfire). So save that until there is enough for a trip to the recyclers. FWIW if you want to deprime it for a price might as well set up a press and get the sizing die for each caliber (Lee is the cheapest and will sell individual dies) and offer it sized and deprimed while you are at it. That would more likely be worth it to me rather than just deprimed. If you are going to put an effort into a pull of the handle on a press you should add more value to it.:) Just MHO

The trading post here will be a good place to sell some brass so don't forget us on this forum if you decide to ship your brass.:D
Thank you for the advice. I thought of doing that also to make it more appealing to some customer base. Is the fastest way to do this one die and one brass case?

Flt Simulation
November 4, 2012, 04:24 PM
Bill ...

If you think about it ... People that are looking to buy used brass on the internet are also looking to buy at the cheapest price they can find.

Most of these people could care less if it's deprimed or not, or if it's been cleaned or not.

You start charging extra for cleaning, depriming, and whatever else you may be considering, and you will need to raise the price above what most of us "cheapskates" are willing to pay for used brass. And then you will have no customers!

Again ... bottom line ... Sell brass that has the same size primers, and don't sell brass that is all bent up ... That's all you need to do.

Figure in the $11 and change for the USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Box shipping, and advertise "Free Shipping" to anywhere in the lower 48.

Don't know about other calibers, but you can advertise 2,000 .45ACP brass for $100 bucks (5 cents per piece) to the door. I think you will make money with that.

P.S. I don't think you even need to separate this stuff by headstamp ... These guys that are looking for used brass are more than likely not very worried about who the manufacturer of the case was ... as long as it's not Russian steel cases, and they can clean it up good once they get it from you.

They want used brass that's cheap, but certainly reloadable ... They don't want to throw out half the brass they buy from you.

Just my opinion.

CountryUgly
November 5, 2012, 03:45 PM
I like to buy once fired because of the savings. I don't care if it's got a little dirt on it and primers still in it. As long as it's CHEAP and NOT CRUSHED I'm a buyer! Seperating headstamps would allow you to hike the price a little but personally If I'm loading for plinking I could care less who made the brass. The stuff I load for accuracy/hunting I buy new brass for so I'm 100% on what it's been through during it's life span so to speak. With all that being said PM me with info on how to buy some of your fine once fired CHEAP, DIRTY and UNPRIMED BRASS.

Flt Simulation
November 5, 2012, 06:14 PM
I like to buy once fired because of the savings. I don't care if it's got a little dirt on it and primers still in it. As long as it's CHEAP and NOT CRUSHED I'm a buyer! Seperating headstamps would allow you to hike the price a little but personally If I'm loading for plinking I could care less who made the brass. The stuff I load for accuracy/hunting I buy new brass for so I'm 100% on what it's been through during it's life span so to speak. With all that being said PM me with info on how to buy some of your fine once fired CHEAP, DIRTY and UNPRIMED BRASS.

Exactly ..

jjjitters
November 5, 2012, 06:22 PM
When I see an add for used brass that is bright, shiney, and clean, I wonder where that stuff came from that it needed to be cleaned up . Nowadays a person can make trash cases look "new", so I wouldn't buy that stuff.

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