Form 4 wait time?


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levsmith
November 8, 2012, 11:02 PM
Pardon me if this is the wrong place for this. I thought I remembered seeing a thread on current wait times but cant seem to find it now. If there is one could someone please post the link? And if not, how about listing some of your recent wait times. I am looking at getting a 22 pistol in the next few weeks and thought I might as well start the form 4 for the suppressor now. Thanks!

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halogrinder
November 8, 2012, 11:17 PM
Send it in and don't even THINK about asking about it for 6 months. After 6 months, you can call NFA branch and ask

levsmith
November 9, 2012, 12:01 AM
Send it in and don't even THINK about asking about it for 6 months

Well shoot. I remembered hearing 6 months somewhere but I was just hoping that wasn't the norm. Guess I better get started now! Thanks!

ZGunner
November 9, 2012, 12:25 AM
Yup I think I had posted asking about it. I got some bad info somewhere or the guy was just lucky when he said 2 months. I'm currently at 6 months waiting on a 22 suppressor. Gettin a lil antsy.

kimberkid
November 9, 2012, 08:35 AM
Te BTAFE has hired something like 19 assistants for the agents ... Wait times were supposed to be shortened by this, but I don't know how effective it was as with this news more forms started flooding them ... I've got 2 that have been waiting for 3 months I haven't checked on yet, but the check has been cashed.

medalguy
November 9, 2012, 12:25 PM
I have an MG transfer that's been 8 months now.....

Cesiumsponge
November 9, 2012, 12:28 PM
The checks get cashed within a business week of sending out paperwork.

Keaner
November 9, 2012, 05:14 PM
NFA Tracker is showing more like 150 days (~5 months) round trip, and the ATF seems to be improving slowly. See: http://www.nfatracker.com/TrendGraph.aspx

Lee Roder
November 9, 2012, 08:42 PM
I have an MG transfer that's been 8 months now.....

Funny (or not), my MG transfer took 8 months even though nfatracker was "predicting" 5, so hang in there.

<GRIPEON>nfatracker's data and reports have some serious issues. If you look at any time period in the dataset, recent or past, approximately 25% of the "reports" are still in limbo even after a year or two - were they disapproved, abandoned, or what? In addition, nfatracker's "average wait time" is not the average wait time, but the average wait time for the earliest reported approvals, which is not the same thing.<GRIPEOFF>

Gato MontÚs
November 9, 2012, 11:34 PM
The checks get cashed within a business week of sending out paperwork.

And that's why I'm worried. It's been almost three weeks for me after my dealer said he would send them in. This was in the middle of hurricane Sandy and I know they were temporaily closed for that, but...:(

medalguy
November 10, 2012, 12:02 AM
Send in your form and buy a lottery ticket. One of them has to pay off. :uhoh:

Keaner
November 10, 2012, 12:45 PM
Funny (or not), my MG transfer took 8 months even though nfatracker was "predicting" 5, so hang in there.

<GRIPEON>nfatracker's data and reports have some serious issues. If you look at any time period in the dataset, recent or past, approximately 25% of the "reports" are still in limbo even after a year or two - were they disapproved, abandoned, or what? In addition, nfatracker's "average wait time" is not the average wait time, but the average wait time for the earliest reported approvals, which is not the same thing.<GRIPEOFF>

NFATracker just shows average times, so predicting is hard. Some end up coming in higher and lower, however if you look at the trend graph, the ATF IS getting more consistent (in part, because of feedback from NFA Tracker).

You are right, unfortunately a number of people abandon their entries, however those are not included in the reports.

The Average Wait Time IS the average wait time of all entries that have hit the second event in the last 6 months. So the Start->Approved report shows the average of the entries that have hit 'Approved' in the last 6 months. This includes the short ones that are just being reported, and the ones that took 10+ months. The dataset is however quite large at the moment (yay participation!) so really long and short ones seem to be averaged out.

trickyric
November 16, 2012, 09:48 PM
I got 3 stamps that went almost 6 months from check cashed to in my hands.
I am currently waiting on a MG and a suppressor that have gone past the 6 month point and will soon hit 7 months. I checked with ATF and they told me they went from the assistant to the actual examiner but that was over a month ago and they still haven't been approved.

Shytheed Dumas
November 17, 2012, 12:25 AM
My .22 cal suppressor was a full 6 month wait.

smkummer
November 17, 2012, 09:12 PM
I have one pending since July 6th. I now also have another form 4 pending. So I called ATF to see if when the first one is approved to also see if the second form 4 could also be approved at the same time (might help to relieve some of the backlog). Do I have to tell you what they said? To give you a hint, common sense is not so common with a govt. agency. Good help us all if other branches of the govt. are run this way.

WGSNewnan
November 17, 2012, 10:04 PM
my last one took 6 months to the day.

BP44
November 19, 2012, 12:41 AM
Just got a silencerco sparrow a feww weeks ago after a 8 1/2 month wait

Nail Shooter
November 20, 2012, 07:16 PM
I am at exactly 5 months since my check was cashed for my stamp. Waiting for a 22 LR can.

Dealer said he's seen some come back at 4 months and 3 weeks and others at 6 months. Cheers.


Nail

Captains1911
November 20, 2012, 07:52 PM
I'm at 5.5 months since my check was cashed for a Sparrow. I'm expecting to hear any day now.

Gtscotty
November 20, 2012, 10:19 PM
I have a sparrow that went pending August 10th. I was hoping the declining wait time trend on the NFA tracker website would continue, but it seems things have flattened out.... Instead of being 3/4 of the way through wait, it looks like I'm probably only halfway through, and getting pretty antsy!

aubie515
November 23, 2012, 01:20 AM
Pretty sad...my first stamp in 2006 took three weeks from start to finish.

trickyric
November 23, 2012, 08:29 AM
I spoke to the ATF on Wed. It seem the SMG receiver I purchased can be an MK4 or MK5 and the manufacturer/seller has a letter from the ATF that gives him permission to sell it as either. He has had the letter since the 1980's and has sold over 1000 of these.
The ATF is telling me that a higher supervisor has to approve the letter,,,,,but it shouldn't be a problem even though the shelved my application for over a month for the "other supervisor" to review it.
Does anyone think the change in political climate has anything to do with this change in wait times since 2006?

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