Best 22 pistol and rifle to suppress?


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breakingcontact
November 9, 2012, 12:39 AM
Looking at Ruger Mark III pistols and 10/22 rifles.

Which models are best for use with a suppressor?

Better options than these Rugers?

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mljdeckard
November 9, 2012, 03:16 AM
for a Ruger I would look at a suppressed upper. For a rifle, there are plenty of options to thread a 10/22 barrel, or to get a AR .22 upper and have it threaded.

Odd Job
November 9, 2012, 03:53 AM
Better options than these Rugers?

I take it you want to stay with semi-auto.
If you can get a second hand Thompson R55 Benchmark and have that barrel threaded, it will be really quiet (at least it is with my ASE Utra can).
Tried it with my SIG522, definitely not the same...

BLB68
November 9, 2012, 05:38 AM
I've also been eying the Browning Buckmark Camper Whisper. Adjustable sights, 5.5" barrel.

MasterSergeantA
November 9, 2012, 02:46 PM
I have both of the guns you use as examples...several of each, to be truthful. They work well suppressed and getting to that point is easy enough. The 10/22s are all about the same as far as suppression goes. The pistol is offered in several models, a couple of which now come pre-threaded at 1/2x28. I prefer the 22/45 over the standard MkIII (and prefer the Mk II to the III, but that is a different story) because the grip angle and controls are closer to my 1911s. You can get suppressed uppers for the pistol, as well as suppressed barrels for the 10/22. Either of those would offer greater sound reduction, as a rule, than screw-on cans. On the other hand, the removeable suppressors can be used on more than one gun, so you could use the same one on the rifle and the pistol which allows you to get by with only one stamp...until you opt to buy another.

There are quieter guns and the level of reduction will vary with the make/model suppressor as well as the ammunition you use. But the 10/22 is versatile and I've used the pistols for the past 40 years.

FWIW

Onward Allusion
November 9, 2012, 03:51 PM
Dunno about the best, but something like the Savage Mark II MKII FV-SR in 22LR would be quieter than the semi-autos.

wally
November 11, 2012, 06:53 PM
Probably best to stay with 4" barrels unless you like paying ectra for "sub-sonic" ammo.

Federal bulk pack from my 4" Ruger 22/45 a significantly quieter than from my 6" Beretta Neos with my Sparrow.

Walther P22 is shorter and quieter, but gums up from blowback fouling in 100-200 rounds.

With .22lr rifles unless you buy ammo made to be subsonic out of a 16-18" barrel they are louder than I like without earpro. Accuracy can also be poor if your bullet starts just above supersonic and drops below it before getting on target -- transsonic flight is aerodynamic no-man's land.

Tempest 455
November 12, 2012, 01:28 PM
I have a Ruger Lite 22/45 and Savage TRR SR. I use the same can on both.

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hayes1966
November 13, 2012, 08:47 PM
I have a Ruger MKII, Buckmark, Walther P22, Ruger 10/22 and CZ 452 all threaded. The CZ is the quietest, with the correct ammo it doesn't make a sound. Both the MKII and Buckmark are comparable. Both a little quieter than the Walther P22 (IMHO)

rdhood
November 14, 2012, 11:27 AM
A Browning Buckmark and a Ruger 10/22. Threaded barrels are readily available, somewhat cheap, and easy to install (and increase accuracy!).

hq
November 14, 2012, 11:40 AM
Better options than these Rugers?

Not many. I've used a number of suppressors on my Mk.II and, like with all pistols, size matters. A large can is quieter, up to a point. Additionelly, along with Buck Mark and Colt Woodsman it's one of my favorite platforms to build a dedicated, suppressed pistol. Pretty much the same thing with 10/22, it's a prime candidate for a suppressor build.

If you want to go with a screw-on can, virtually any .22 pistol or rifle will do. Walther P22 has a terrible trigger but with a suppressor it's still small and light, and mine's been reliable as well. Colt .22 1911-style rail gun has been another suppressor-friendly pistol. However, neither of these is quite up to par with Ruger Mk.II(I).

To sum it up, you're pretty much on the right track.

Ranb
November 14, 2012, 06:48 PM
I have suppressed P-22, Savage MKii, 10/22, Ruger MKii pistol, Buckmark, TC contender, and Winchester Model 06. All are fun and you are likely be happy with any of them. The 06 is least noisy simply due to the longer 20" barrel. The 10/22 and semi-auto pistols are the most fun simply because I can shoot fast.

I use CCI blazer in the pistols as it cheap/consistant and runs less than 1100 fps except in the 10" Buckmark and Contender barrels, CCI Std Vel is great in the rifles. Remington Subsonic sucks really bad. It is only 38 grains, slow and inconsistent in everything I shot it in. Stay away from it.

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I really like the Ruger I built, but I recommend the Buckmark to beginners due to the easy barrel swaps.

The best firearm to suppress is the one you enjoy shooting the most. Since anything 22lr (except revolvers) will suppress well even with a mediocre silencer and almost any barrel will be easy to thread, the shooting experience will just be enhanced when you attach the silencer.

Ranb

Gtscotty
November 15, 2012, 01:20 PM
My suppressor is not here yet, but I took the same route you're looking at and have not regretted it thus far. I currently have a Sparrow sitting in BATFE purgatory, and while I've been waiting I've been trying to get my collection of hosts together. Currently my main two are a 22/45 lite and a 10/22 with a PWS T3 CF barrel. I really like both setups, and the T3 barrel is almost comically accurate with remington subs (folks at the range look at you funny when you cackle at tiny groups on a 50 yd 22lr target).

While I think these two will be my main hosts, I'm also planning on getting a threaded barrel for my SR22 and having all three barrels (.22lr, .22mag, and 17HMR) for my CZ 455 threaded. After that I think I should be set for most any circumstance.

Gato MontÚs
November 15, 2012, 09:46 PM
Buckmarks have an easier time with barrel swaps than the Ruger, but Ruger produces a couple nice host weapons pre-threaded from the factory. Both the standard 22/45 as well as the (black)lite are excellent hosts. The only negative thing I can say about them is my dislike for the MKIII "safety" features, which takes less than 30 dollars and five minutes to correct.

I was initially going to get a Buckmark Whisper, but beyond having higher price than the Ruger I found that it is optimal to get a sub 5" barrel when shooting suppressed, keeps almost all ammo subsonic, which excludes the Whisper.

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