K Frames will be my undoing


November 11, 2012, 04:12 PM

Was at the gun show looking for some reloading components and some grips.

My daughter comes back from buying the worlds most expensive pecans and says "Daddy...there is a Model 14 over there for $425"

I said..."you mean $525?"

She said "no...today only...$425"

turns out the guy was selling it for someone else. Private sale...owner needed the money.


apparently there is no K-Frame that I will refuse :cuss:

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November 11, 2012, 04:22 PM
Congrats, the k-frame.... man, what can I say?

A dang fine weapon!

November 11, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sweet Model 14! Those were the preemient target guns of the PPC circuit.

Uncle G, can I go shopping with you next weekend? :p


November 11, 2012, 06:40 PM
can I go shopping with you next weekend?

take my daughter with you

She found this one

November 11, 2012, 06:41 PM
if this keeps up I will have as many K-frames as D-frames :what:

November 11, 2012, 06:58 PM
Great find on your part and a great shooting revolver.

November 11, 2012, 09:50 PM
Would it be crass you show off the 14-3 I got for $100? Definitely has some holster wear issues but for a C note I couldn't walk away.


November 11, 2012, 09:57 PM
Would it be crass you show off the 14-3 I got for $100?

Not crass at all.

While my meager selection of firearms is nothing compared to your's, I always enjoy when you share them. That is why I post my acquisitions.

What year did you pick up your C-note Model 14

November 11, 2012, 11:02 PM
You guys are killin' me! :cuss:
Spent a good chunk of my vacation (a great week with my oldest child and her husband and son) searching ALL OVER southwest Iowa and Eastern Nebraska for "a K-Frame Smith&Wesson in .357 just like Mom's" for her birthday. It became painfully obvious that her husband and father were going to be the two stinkiest turds in the ****-pile if we didn't find her "perfect birthday present".
Finally found one (less than two days before I was to fly home) at a gun show in Atlantic, Iowa. It was old (have to go back and read the "S&W Revoler ID" thread to recall HOW old), it was dirty and it was $600. Dirty? I kept looking down the bore.... was it just a lot of soft lead? Barrell erosion? Maybe a bad attempt to cover a flaw with JB Weld???? Finally talked the guy into letting me borrow a bore brush and scrubbed for a few minutes. Yay, it was soft, SOFT lead... the kind of soft that goes beyond the recommendations from the manufacturer of my replica C&B pistols!

I grabbed my wallet, so did my-son-in-law; we became the proud owners of "the best birthday present I could ever have", according to my eldest child. This is a girl that, when she was still wearing ACU's and Corcoran's to work, would breeze through her semi-annual quals to take High Marksman with the M16, squeak through "Expert" with the M9 (we BOTH hate Beretta 92's and so does my former Air Cav son-in-law); and, given a friendly Range Officer, hit high numbers with a 249 SAW... and her "best birthday present ever" was a Model 66 that was three years older than her???

Not that it was BAD, a couple of FMJ rounds through it scraped out the rest of the lead, and the bore looked 'factory-new'. But we paid enough to EACH get THREE copies of Saxon Pig's C-note Model 14! I buy guns and keep them FOREVER; so I didn't know that "they don't make them no mo!" Personally, I blame lawyers.
For what I paid for my 50%; I'd have had to spend an extra $10 for the girl's "Mom's" Model 13 that was 10 years' newer. Both of you together would have had to come up with almost a couple more Benjamin's to buy the new Model 14 (Complete with that idiotic "keyhole" under the hammer - again, I blame lawyers!) that we had seen two days before in a gunshop in the same town as the gun show we visited. And we almost bought that one; but the girl spec'd "... in .357, just like Mom's..."


November 11, 2012, 11:11 PM

You did get a .357.

Saxon and I only have .38s.

Also...Saxon won. He could have bought 4 of them for what I paid.

: (

Very nice of you to work so hard to find your daughter the perfect gun


I gave my daughter a Model 19 for her 15th birthday. Gave a Model 10 to a friend this year. K Frames make great gifts!!!

November 11, 2012, 11:15 PM
What sucks is that I've been in that owner's position all too recently. At least it's in the hands of someone who will appreciate it. Enjoy and if your daughter sees a cheap Model 13 laying around, would you please let her tell me?

November 11, 2012, 11:28 PM

We were VERY fortunate to find a Model 66 - I still believe -in the dark recesses in the back of my mind- that it is/was the ONLY K-frame .357 west of Des Moines!

You gave a 19 to your daughter? I was looking at Model 19's when I found the 13 ("Mom's gun" -> that was originally MINE). I learned to shoot handguns with a Model 19; but the 13 had the BEST action of anything I handled at that gunshow 20 years ago. My daughter wouldn't have had it as a reference point if one of the 19's had been 1/2 as sweet.

wlewisiii: A cheap Model 13??? A cheap K-frame anything????
If I find TWO cheap Model 13's, or 19's; I will be sure to let you know about THE OTHER ONE! Nobody but the woman that has put up with me for 30+ years would have talked me out of the first one!

November 11, 2012, 11:37 PM
What sucks is that I've been in that owner's position all too recently


I figure that "425" really meant "400".

I paid what the tag said, didn't even ask for a cheaper price.
Why be greedy? $425 is a good price.

Pigs get fat
hogs get slaughtered

November 11, 2012, 11:42 PM
I don't see many Model 13s.

Mostly I am a 38 guy.

Right now I am looking for Model 15s as I think that they are great buys.

Great guns and easily found under 400 bucks. One I got recently for 300.


Old Fuff
November 12, 2012, 11:03 AM
A quick look at the picture tells me that someone modified (and maybe replaced) the trigger for double-action shooting. This is not necessarily bad, and might be very good - but the question is, what else was done and how well. The double action should be smooth, but not ultra-light. If it is check the mainspring and mainspring strain screw. Otherwise you might get light firing pin hits.

It could also use a hammer bearing (washer/shim) on the hammer's right side, as it appears to be off-center and rubbing.

You buy such junk... :evil: :D

November 12, 2012, 11:37 AM
You buy such junk

It was homeless :eek:

Arkansas Paul
November 12, 2012, 11:39 AM
Would it be crass you show off the 14-3 I got for $100?

Wow. Was that recently?

November 12, 2012, 01:20 PM
About 6 years ago.

Bought a Model 13 at the same time for $135 (that I gave to a friend for Christmas that year).

November 12, 2012, 01:21 PM

I don't have a drawerful like you showed earlier, but if that homeless one is too much to handle, I'll start one! Guess I'm gonna have to start looking in the pecan section! Nice gun Amigo.

November 12, 2012, 02:35 PM
Don't know about where u live, but around here gun shows have darned near as much "other stuff" as guns.

Jewelry, seeds, beanie babies, sausage and... Of course...pecans

November 12, 2012, 04:44 PM
I've never met a K-frame S&W that I didn't like,,,
I've housed & fed a few "orphans" myself. ;)

Also they are great girlie-guns,,,
Take a young lady shooting and invariably,,,
They turn out liking the K-frame revolvers the best.

I thought I was going to have to chop the hand off of one young lady,,,
She had a death grip on my Model 18 and wasn't letting go.

She only put it down when we finally ran out of ammo for it,,,
Then she spotted the Model 15 and the entire process started again.



November 12, 2012, 05:10 PM
They turn out liking the K-frame revolvers the best

I gave a dear friend a model 10 from the 50s and darn it, her hands are so small, she prefers a j frame.

But except for her, the K is neck and neck with the D-frame Colt.

Old Fuff
November 12, 2012, 07:04 PM
I gave a dear friend a model 10 from the 50s and darn it, her hands are so small, she prefers a j frame.

I presume it had the style of stocks introduced after World War Two with the high horn at the top. If so, try a pair of the kind used on Victory Models and previous. They are obtainable from Numrich Arms/Gunparts Corp.

You might see a change of mind... ;)

November 13, 2012, 09:32 AM
it has Magna Diamonds on it

Old Fuff
November 13, 2012, 10:49 AM
In that case consider the option I suggested so far as the lady with small hands is concerned. The pre-war and Victory Model style stocks reduce the handle on a S&W square-butt K-frame to about the size of a Colt Detective Special after the appication of a little sandpaper rubbing.


November 13, 2012, 11:21 AM
Thanks for the advice Fuffster

I will discuss it w her.

Perhaps loan her a Diamondback, see if she likes the feel.

November 13, 2012, 11:30 AM

Good catch on the hammer.

It is going to spend a little time at the spa of Clark Custom Guns.


Old Fuff
November 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
I knew Jim Jr's Daddy. Jim Jr. does pretty good work for a Southern Boy... :D

I'm pretty sure you will be pleased when it comes back. ;)

November 14, 2012, 06:57 PM
so it's coming right down the road from me 'eh? Good choice. Please make note to advise me of the results as I'm considering throwing a little trade that way myself. I can actually drop off and pick up.

November 14, 2012, 11:22 PM
There is a fun story about how 2 Ks and a J are ending up there.
But It is a favor by someone who may not want such to b public.

What I can say is that the Clarks are a VERY nice family.

If their work is as nice as they are, you will b MORE than pleased.

Old Dog
November 14, 2012, 11:54 PM
Will you Southern boys quit hogging all the K-frames? Maybe send a few up our way?

Seriously though, I'm happy for those of you that can find these increasingly rare gems, and are also so close to some really good gunsmiths.

November 15, 2012, 12:33 AM
no promises



November 15, 2012, 01:06 AM
As I understand things, Mr. Miculek agrees with you.

I personaly am interested in their .460 Rowland conversions for a Kimber Custom II Target.

P.S. Since Texas has decided to share their hogs with us coon-asses, I feel it necessary to "hog-Up".

November 15, 2012, 01:21 AM
Jerry married Jim's little sister.

He doesn't have much choice but to use them :evil:

And I am told that Jerry's daughter is kick-butt in 3 gun...loading her 12 gauge like spiderman. Apparently she is already a force to be reckoned with and improving at an amazing rate.

breeding shows

November 15, 2012, 01:46 AM
Well hell,

With us southern folk someone is always marryin' someone's sister and the like. Glad to know it's all redneck legit.

Like every other redneck it's more important to me to see how .460 Rowland works.

After all, wives are wives and huntin' is huntin'. Less than an hour ago I was preaching smack in the revolver forum under the 88 magnum post. Believe it?

November 15, 2012, 04:28 PM
breeding shows

Not true at all,,,
Opportunity, resources, and practice shows.

It's the same thing with a Miss Randy Rogers,,,
Five-time (I believe) Women's National Champion in SASS,,,
After receiving a Bachelor's Degree in marketing she went to work for Glock.

Her Grandfather is Evil Roy,,,
Past National Mens Champion in SASS.

I have met Miss Rogers and was very impressed,,,
She is a very talented and hard working young woman,,,
Truly, she is a role model for what someone can do if they practice enough.

But do you really think that Randy would have gotten as far as she did,,,
Had she not had the backing (financial and mentor) provided by her grandfather?

Same with JM's daughter,,,
Look at the tremendous advantage she starts with,,,
The premier revolver marksman in the US as her coach and mentor,,,
Plus all the ammunition she can possibly need to practice her skills to a professional level.

She still has to work and develop the skills he can teach,,,
So beyond the work/practice ethic he can impart,,,
"breeding" has nothing to do with it at all.

So I cry B-S on "breeding shows".

If that were true,,,
Wolfgang Van Halen would be a legitimate rock star.



November 15, 2012, 05:02 PM
So I cry B-S on "breeding shows".

You are correct

breeding and opportunity and hard work are a deadly combination...to the competition

: )

November 16, 2012, 11:09 AM
So the moral of the story is:

Admission for Two = $20

Bag of Pecans = $10

Daughter finding a Model 14 in 85% + condition for $425 + admission = $455 for a really good gun (for some a bucketlist gun).

Bring two sets of eyes and hold out for that once in a lifetime deal, and don't be cheap about the overpriced fair food.

November 16, 2012, 08:30 PM
Sorry Old Dog,

A buddy called me from a local gun store today. Said there was a Model 15-3 at a relatively expensive store at a shockingly low price of $250.

He asked them to hold it for me.

Of course I bought it. It was only 250 bucks.

So despite your polite request to let some K-Frames make there way north...sorry.

Experience suggests that I just can't do it.


February 28, 2013, 11:18 PM
Will you Southern boys quit hogging all the K-frames? Maybe send a few up our way?

I export them from Minnesota every chance I get and keep a stock pile in NC, brought a model 13-2 back on my last trip from up north. We'll eventually migrate them to our retirement in WI in 20 years ;)

Darn K-Frames, I had to quit drinking and cut back on smoking to afford that nasty habit. I purchased two Model 10-5 snubs this month, $380 perfect mint almost looks unfired, second for $240... second has rust pitting, shoots like a dream and is being carried daily as is.

February 28, 2013, 11:32 PM
Here's one of the police trade in guns that Bud's was selling for $269. It came from the Victoria Australia police dept. Loads of holster wear and beat up grips. It's a model 10-8. I traced the serial number to 1982. Since this photo I've put a set of Pacmayr gripper grips on the thing. I love this gun.


April 12, 2013, 01:32 AM
OP, you have raised your daughter very well indeed. I congratulate you.

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