Missouri Bullet Company Load Thread


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627PCFan
November 12, 2012, 08:35 AM
I figured since alot of us deal with Missouri Bullet Company I decided to open a thread to show loads used by THR members used with MBC products. Mods if we get enough posts see if you make this a sticky-


CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

158gn Action
AA#9 12.4 grains
Starline brass
CCI Small Rifle primers
S&W 627
1330FPS 5 shot ave-


180gn Striker
AA#9 11 grains
Starline brass
CCI Small Rifle primers
S&W 627
1215FPS 5 shot ave-


Cowboy #2 TCFP
Hodgdon clays 5.2 grains
Starline brass
CCI Small Rifle primers
S&W 627
Load not chronoed. Just for plinking-

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Kyle M.
November 12, 2012, 08:53 AM
.40 S&W
IDP #9 155gr swc
cci small pistol
5.2grs W231

Lots of fun in my S&W 4006.

.44 magnum
240gr Elmer K bullet
CCI large pistol
17.5 grs 2400
1.600 OAL

Fun plinking load for 10.5" SBH

dragon68
November 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
.44 magnum
240gr Elmer K bullet
CCI large pistol
19 grs 2400
Crimp on crimp groove
44 Mag Super RedHawk with 9.5" barrel

Good punch 4.5" group at 75 yards.


.357 magnum
158gr Action (SWC)
CCI Small pistol
13.5 grs 2400
Crimp on crimp groove

Nice out of my 6" 357 mag.

horsemen61
November 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
Cowboy #16
.358 Diameter
.38 Special
105 Grain TCFP
Brinell 12

4.6 Grains of win 231 nice easy target load:D

Kyle M.
November 12, 2012, 12:25 PM
.45acp
230gr softball
5.2grs W231

Very good plinking load

ljnowell
November 12, 2012, 01:10 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=466428&highlight=missouri+bullet+company

Take a look there.

Hondo 60
November 12, 2012, 04:57 PM
dragon68 - do you have a chronograph?
I'd be really interested in speed of both of your loads.

That 44 Mag load has got to be a king-sized boom.
& that 357 load sounds interesting as well.

mbopp
November 12, 2012, 08:03 PM
357 Mag:
158gr Action! SWC
4.5gr Bullseye in 357 cases.

357 Herrett (practice)
158gr Action!
20.0gr I-4198

45ACP:
200gr Bullseye #1 SWC
6.0gr Unique, or 3.7-4.8gr Bullseye, or 5.7gr HP-38.

GaryL
November 12, 2012, 09:21 PM
I had an old jug of Green Dot, and no real matching data, so I started out safe with it based on the lead data I had. Please note, the following data exceeds the max target load listed for LSW in an old Alliant Reloaders Guide.

200gr IDP#4-XD
5.0gr Green Dot
WLP primer

Avg 715fps

So based on that and the Lyman 49th, I wouldn't hesitate to push it up to 6.0 gr Green Dot. The recipe that appears closest to a match shows a max of 6.4gr, but I'd need to chronograph that all the way up to see what it's doing before I'd try to push based on data for a completely different bullet design.

CZ57
November 12, 2012, 10:23 PM
.45 ACP
200 gr. SWC IDP #1
6.0 grs. ZIP
CCI-300
1.240" OACL
one hole groups at 50' ;)

dragon68
November 13, 2012, 04:55 AM
Hondo I do not have a chronograph yet(my next to do) lol. But yes they are a strong mag load for lead.I plan on using the 44 for pig hunting and the 357 is a taurus 669 with 6" barrel i bought new 20 years ago(at Wal mart lol) that i love to shoot.With that load i can nail a tennis ball at 50 yards almost every shot :).

rduckwor
November 13, 2012, 04:33 PM
200 Gr LSWC (More Bullets IDPA 1):

W231 - 5.6 Gr makes 870 FPS average

WST - 4.5 Gr no velocity data yet, but very clean and soft shooter.

RMD

777TRUTH
November 13, 2012, 06:34 PM
MBC 125gr SWC over 3.9gr HP-38. Accurate and soft shooting.

dickttx
November 14, 2012, 04:58 PM
MBC Cowboy #4
200gn RNFP
CCI 300
5.0gn HP38
1.195 OAL

MBC IDP #6
124gn TCFP
CCI 500
5.3gn HP38
1.15 OAL

1KPerDay
November 14, 2012, 05:22 PM
DISCLAIMERS, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, ETC.

9mm:
MBC 125 grain "smallball" LRN (mine are sized .358" for my .357 bore 9mms)
3.7gr Red Dot
CCI 500
1.09" OAL
Accurate and reliable in SIG P226 and Beretta 92FS

.40 S&W
MBC IDP #5 180 grain TCFP (also works with IDP #7 140 gr TCFP)
4.0 grains Red Dot
1.125" OAL
CCI 500
Works fine, accurate, light recoil. I don't have a chrony but the the 140 grain likely won't make major if that matters

.45 ACP
230 "Softball!" RN
4.0 or 4.4gr Red Dot, or 5.6 or 6.0 grains Herco (all are accurate, herco 6.0 is most accurate for me)
1.24" OAL
CCI 300
excellent plinker/target/action load. (The 4.0 load may not cycle a Glock 30 reliably one handed)

JLDickmon
November 14, 2012, 10:32 PM
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
NON-PUBLISHED DATA!
EXCEEDS MAXIMUM LOADS!
WILL MAKE YOUR DOG DRINK OUT OF THE TOILET!

.32-20WCF

Missouri Cowboy #6 (100 gr)
7.2 gr VV N350
WSP primer

good small game load in my Ruger Blackhawk


still working on a load for the 72 gr I bought for .32 S&W Long

kludge
November 14, 2012, 11:11 PM
.40 S&W
170gr LSWC
8.1gr No. 7

Caution: near max load per Accurate Data for 175gr bullet. Shoots very accurately/cleanly in my XD-40 4".

J_McLeod
November 14, 2012, 11:44 PM
I haven't seen this one listed yet and it's my favorite.

147gr Subsonic
4.8 gr or .34 disk setting HS-6
Sm pistol primer
1.078

Accurate and very mild shooting in any of my 9mm pistols. Brass lands in a pile a few feet from me.

jfremder
November 15, 2012, 08:29 AM
Oops

beefyz
November 15, 2012, 08:44 AM
Doesn't anybody shoot rifle here ?
How about some nods for the whitetail 135 & 165 for 30-30 ? Would like to see what others are shooting....

JLDickmon
November 15, 2012, 09:55 AM
Doesn't anybody shoot rifle here ?
How about some nods for the whitetail 135 & 165 for 30-30 ? Would like to see what others are shooting....
I bought some #2 Whitetail (135 gr., .309 dia.), but I don't have much brass to play with at the moment..

DeadFlies
November 15, 2012, 02:14 PM
Doesn't anybody shoot rifle here ?
How about some nods for the whitetail 135 & 165 for 30-30 ? Would like to see what others are shooting....
I load the 165 grain Whitetail like this for a fun plinker:

MBC 165 grain Whitetail
Primer of your choice
10.5 grains (or as much as you can fit into the 2.2cc scooper that comes with the Lee dies) of Trailboss

This is good for about 1200 fps. Cheap, low recoil and report, punches neat holes in paper and destroys milk jugs at 50 yards

DeadFlies
November 15, 2012, 02:23 PM
Here's my 9mm plinker load:

MBC Parabellum
115 grain LRN
4.5 grains (one .5cc scoop) of Unique

Cheap cheap cheap. I can load these for about ten cents using recycled brass and they work great. I'm glad my pistol has adjustable sights, though. Different POI from factory ammo.

J_McLeod
November 15, 2012, 07:10 PM
Missing Powder type
Powder type added. HS-6.

JRadice45
November 27, 2012, 12:51 PM
MBC 357 Action 158 gr LSWC
Mixed 38 Special brass
5.8 gr Alliant Power Pistol
Bullet seated to crimp grove
medium / heavy crimp

Good +p load that closely duplicates recoil of Factory Winchester Super X 158 Gr LSWCHP in both Ruger GP100 4" and S&W 640-3 2 1/8". I can keep them all in the black at 50' with the Ruger shooting double action, not so much with the Smith.

MBC PPC#2 148 gr DEWC
Mixed 38 Special brass
2.9 gr Alliant Bullseye
Bullet seated to crimp grove
Very light crimp (just enough to remove the flare)

Accurate in both the Ruger & Smith. Makes it easy to run through 200 rounds a session in the little J - frame

Crashbox
November 27, 2012, 08:37 PM
MBC .357 Action 140gn TCFP
Herco 7.5gn
OAL 1.580
Light crimp

I have found this load to be very accurate in my SP101 3".

Steve H
December 6, 2012, 04:17 PM
Anybody have a favorite load for the 45 ACP 230 gr RN softball bullet using Unique?

I have 2 Speer manuals that show 5.3 - 5.8 and two Lyman books that show the top end around 7 grains. 7 seems way too high to me.

sellersm
December 6, 2012, 06:51 PM
I think 5.5gr Unique seems to be the magic sweetspot for a lot of people, but YMMV. Some people say that 6.0gr mimics the old hardball. I've not tried that.

Steve H
December 6, 2012, 06:55 PM
My 650 is set up to throw ~5.8 so I'll give that a try.

brett1
December 6, 2012, 10:01 PM
does any one have 357 magnum load data with longshot powder

dsm
December 6, 2012, 11:06 PM
40 S&W (M&P Compact)
MBC 180gr IDP #5
W231 4.5gr
CCi SP
WW brass

45 ACP (Kimber Team Match II)
MBC 200gr Bullseye #1
W231 5.5 gr
CCi LP
mixed bass

918v
December 7, 2012, 10:44 AM
9mm Luger

Cowboy #2 (.358" 125gr TCFP)
3.2-3.8grs of Bullseye or 3.8-4.2grs of 231
1.040" OAL

I'm liking 3.2grs of Bullseye in my Glock right now, through a KKM barrel of course.

pcad2
December 7, 2012, 12:14 PM
For my 45 ACP

4.8grains of titegroup with either 200 grain lead round nose or swc is a nice target/fishing load. It is also the published max for 230 gr jacketed so I use it for the lighter bullets as well. Pretty accurate, easy to handle load.

For my particular 270 win, ( the only load for MY rifle ive found so far that will shoot 1/2 to 3/4 in groups)

The rifle is a m77 ruger that has never shot under an inch and a half till I glass bedded it and started this load.

62.5 gr H1000

Hornady 140 gr Interlock BTSP. Has been a devastating deer slayer so far. Really like those bullets.

Gonna try some SST in the same bullet weight and see what happens.

pcad2
December 7, 2012, 12:18 PM
Havent used long shot, but Lil Gun is some good stuff for a 357.

16.5 grains behind a 158 gr Hornady XTP will shoot pretty snotty and 1 in groups at 100 yards out of my Marlin 1894. My daughter used it to deer hunt.

Model29
December 11, 2012, 07:11 PM
Anyone have a starting load for an MBC 240 gn Keith style bullet and H110? All the data I have found is for jacketed boolits only.

dickttx
December 11, 2012, 07:14 PM
Has anyone loaded the 250gn RNFP for 45 ACP?

1 LT MPC
December 11, 2012, 08:55 PM
Model 29,

Lee 2nd edition lists h110 23 grs for a velocity of 1413 fps in a 240 gr JACKETED bullet. This is a starting load--never exceed is 24 grains. Min OAL is 1.600.

Looks like H110 is used more in heavier lead bullets and some light jacketed ammo.

This is 44 Rem mag--not special

groundsclown
December 12, 2012, 08:05 PM
You asked about dragon68's load if he chrono'd them.
.44 magnum
240gr Elmer K bullet
CCI large pistol
19 grs 2400
Crimp on crimp groove
44 Mag Super RedHawk with 9.5" barrel

I use the same load but with a Win LP primer & thru a Redhawk 7.5" barrel.
240gr SWC-Keith
Win LP
19.0gr 2400
Medium crimp
44 mag Redhawk with 7.5" barrel
Mine chrono at:
Hi: 1421
Lo: 1353
Avg: 1381

dragon68 might have a tad more speed from extra 2" barrel. Nice solid groups at hunting distances

groundsclown
December 12, 2012, 08:15 PM
240 gn Keith
Anyone have a starting load for an MBC 240 gn Keith style bullet and H110? All the data I have found is for jacketed boolits only.

This is from the Lyman Cast Bullet 4th Edition for 44MAG....NOT special.
I'd follow this one, not the 245gr.
240gr Lyman #429667
H110
Start 22.5 - 1204 - 31,800
Max 23.5 - 1266 - 35,700

245gr Lyman #429421 (keith)
H110
Start 24.0 - 1218 - 31,900
Max 25.0 - 1301 - 35,300

Ky Larry
December 13, 2012, 09:00 AM
I haven't tried this load yet but I'm going to tommorow:

.38 Sp
158 LSWC target bullet Aloxed
3.8gr AA#2
Win SP Primer
Mixed cases

Colt 6" Python and S&W Model-19 4".

beefyz
December 13, 2012, 09:55 AM
Has anybody tried the MBC whitetail 135 rnfp? would like to see what others are loading to.

Model29
December 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Thanks guys! I think I'll give this one a try.

240gr Lyman #429667
H110
Start 22.5 - 1204 - 31,800
Max 23.5 - 1266 - 35,700

RE-15
December 15, 2012, 07:33 PM
9mm 147 sub-sonic, new favorite bullet. 4.5 gr. Power Pistol 1.13 OAL. (Start at 4.1 work up) These drop test and cycle perfect in XDm and sub compact 9mm. Like the ogive profile better than the 125 gr small ball.

Rodfac
December 16, 2012, 09:33 AM
I like their .45 ACP bullet: 200 gr BB-TWC with 5.3 gr of Winchester 231 or HP38, Winchester Lg Pistol Primers, and Winchester Brass for 840 fps from a 5" barreled Ruger SR1911. This is a sub-2" combination at 25 yds from rest. As always: this load is safe in my guns, your results may not be the same; you should work up slowly looking for excess pressure signs. Best Regards, Rod

jbkebert
December 27, 2012, 10:06 PM
Does anyone have any data for a 405 grain .458 for a Marlin 45-70 or for that matter the 300 grain .458 as well?

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