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Godsgunman
November 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
Hello all! It's that time of year again where my family starts asking me what I want/need for Christmas. I always give them the typical "nothing" or "just money if you must". Well this year I'm wanting to get into reloading so what kind of press should I suggest? I would be mainly reloading 9mm possibly some 7.62x39 if I so choose later down the road. Basically looking for something under $200 dollars (or close to that) that would meet my needs and be relatively easy to use. What are your suggestions?

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RandyP
November 13, 2012, 03:42 PM
I have no problems recommending a Lee Classic 4-hole turret kit - available for right about $200.

Add calipers, dies and your components and at a VERY relaxed pace you can be making 150-175 rounds per hour of safe, accurate and reliable ammo.

HOWARD J
November 13, 2012, 04:26 PM
You can't beat Lee Classic 4 hole turret press.
Russian ammo is cheaper to buy than reload your own unless you want to make more accurate ammo for 7.62 x 39
Welcome to reloading--you will come to love it

oneounceload
November 13, 2012, 04:32 PM
You will need a SCALE and a decent one at that, preferably something on the lines of the RCBS 505 or 5-10, along with reloading manuals - that just took half your money.

I have used a single stage for reloading metallic for over 35 years - you learn to do things in "batches" - deprime, resize and reprime with the first die, then bell cases (pistol), finally drop powder and seat bullets

b money
November 13, 2012, 04:57 PM
Although it's a bit more than you want to spend I would recommend a RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit. It is a bit slower then a turret for 9mm but it will no doubt reload anything you want except BMG ammo. And it has every thing you need to get started except dies, brass, powder, primers, and bullets.

James2
November 13, 2012, 05:24 PM
Kits containing everything needed except dies are available, but cost around $200 and up. Check this one out! (http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-equipment/reloading-presses/reloading-press-kits-amp-accessories/reloading-kits/rcbs-partner-press-reloading-kit-sku749010603-41111-73382.aspx?mc_id=s80000&srch=1&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c291_a_7c3470_a_7c749010603_d_749010603_d_5553)

You will need: Manual, press, shell holders for the calibers you want to load, scale, powder measure, powder funnel, de-burr tool, dies for the calibers you want to load, and calipers.

You can get by without calipers for a while, but they are sure nice to have.

I guess you can ask for the individual items and start putting it together.

tightgroup tiger
November 13, 2012, 05:37 PM
another vote for the Lee Classic torret press kit.

tts
November 13, 2012, 09:39 PM
+1 for the Lee Classic Turret. I started here and later upgraded to the Dillon when I wanted to produce higher volumes.

Check out the kit from Kempf Gun Shop (it's all set and ready to go):

https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=190&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41&vmcchk=1&Itemid=41

I'm not affiliated with them in any way, except for having ordered this myself.

Steve2md
November 14, 2012, 02:40 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEE-9MM-Luger-9X19-Parabellum-Pro-1000-Progressive-Press-LEE-90640-/230874363883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c12f37eb


The lee pro 1000 in 9mm. Comes with dies, powder measure, instructions, can be used as a single stage for learning, then set to progressive to make lots of volume. UNDER $200. Dillons are cool, but unlike some guys say, they aren't made out of golden unicorn poop. It's a press. Learn how to use each individual press correctly, and they all do the same thing: Make safe, loaded cartridges.

just my opinion, YMMV

GT1
November 14, 2012, 03:45 AM
Lee Classic Turret. I don't know of a better value in reloading. It is in the price range, and will last a couple lifetimes.

Lost Sheep
November 14, 2012, 10:49 PM
Hello all! It's that time of year again where my family starts asking me what I want/need for Christmas. I always give them the typical "nothing" or "just money if you must". Well this year I'm wanting to get into reloading so what kind of press should I suggest? I would be mainly reloading 9mm possibly some 7.62x39 if I so choose later down the road. Basically looking for something under $200 dollars (or close to that) that would meet my needs and be relatively easy to use. What are your suggestions?
I don't usually just recommend a purchase, but for you, I will make an exception.

Give this web address to whoever:

https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=190&Itemid=41

If they want information, talk to Sue Kempf. She knows her stuff and uses this press herself.

Do take the upgrade to the Pro Auto-Disk powder measure.

The kit lacks a manual, a scale and calipers, but includes everything else you will need to load the 9mm (the kit comes with dies for one chambering). Add another turret disk ($13 or so), a set of dies for your rifle ($30-$40), case trimmer, case lubrication and you are good to load with a first-class setup you will be happy with for years to come. Eventually you will add a bullet puller (everyone eventually loads a cartridge they will not want to fire) and a few other tools as time goes on.

Good luck and Merry Christmas.

Lost Sheep

CZ57
November 15, 2012, 02:06 AM
$ for $ the LEE Classic Turret is the best press available. You can use it as a single stage with precision and in the auto index mode you should be able to produce up to 200 rounds per hour. The kit is excellent with one exception, the scale. Discard it and replace it with an RCBS RC 135 that weighs up to 135 grains and is designed for precise weighing of powder charges. ;)

Godsgunman
November 15, 2012, 12:10 PM
Thanks for all the replies so far!
What about the powder, which is best/cleanest for 9mm? How about 7.62x39 if I choose to make some loads for that?
Thanks again for helping a newby out on this :).

oneounceload
November 15, 2012, 02:02 PM
What about the powder, which is best/cleanest for 9mm? How about 7.62x39 if I choose to make some loads for that?

This is where those manuals come in handy... ;)

You can also check the various powder maker's web sites - you'll need to know what weight and type of bullets you are going to be reloading

popper
November 15, 2012, 02:17 PM
What lost sheep says but you don't need the trimmer for pistol. HF caliper and FA digital scale. No Lee dies. RCBS dies ( I do have some Hornady and Lee dies) and uniflow measure work fine for the 4 cals I reload for. Wash the cases in lemishine & dish soap after depriming, dry, load and shoot. W231 is a good starting powder for 9mm. Don't get the Lee FCD if you want to shoot cast in pistol. I have a Lee SS press and hand priming tool, I can load 100/hr, no problem. Start slow, understand what and why of reloading, you'll be good to go.

Lost Sheep
November 16, 2012, 02:41 AM
Thanks for all the replies so far!
What about the powder, which is best/cleanest for 9mm? How about 7.62x39 if I choose to make some loads for that?
Thanks again for helping a newby out on this :).
Don't worry about clean-burning powder. Develop the habit of always cleaning your gun(s) after every shooting session and soot is a non-issue.

More important than clean-burning is pressure. Pic the bullet you want to shoot. Pick the velocity you want for that bullet. (You could reverse the order of those steps, no matter.)

Loading manuals or web sites from the various bullet makers, powder makers, etc. suggest the lowest safe and highest safe powder charge weights for various bullets. They also give the velocities to expect from those powder charges.

Pick a powder that brackets your desired velocity (that is, puts your desired velocity in the middle of the high-low range). Better yet, pick several and make a list. Then go down to your local retailer and buy a pound of whatever powder they have available that is on the list. (Or you could go to your retailer first and make a list of all the powders they have and consult the loading recipes later, but I think that's more work.)

However, before you do all the foregoing, take this advice. DON'T RUSH!!

Reloading isn't rocket science, but it does involve smoke and flame and things that go very fast, so caution is warranted.

Load for mid-range velocities. Carefully weigh each charge in every cartridge you make (at least for the first hundred), double check every step and practice until you understand all the mechanical processes you are doing. Seating primers is an art. Feel the seating and observe that the primer is slightly below flush. Crimping 9mm bullets is easy to do too strongly. 9mm cartridges headspace on the case mouth and if you taper crimp too strongly, you may get misfires. If you don't taper crimp strongly enough, you could get bullet setback (which can give dangerously high pressures).

Once you have your press, read your manuals (plural is intentional) and study up.

Christmas is just around the corner.

On second thought, get "The ABC's of Reloading", Lyman's manual and "Modern Reloading by Richard Lee" right now (or borrow from the local Library) and study up. That way you will be ready when your tools arrive. The early chapters of most all loading manuals contain the "how-to" and "whys" of loading.

I don't want to discourage you from asking questions here (and the powder one is a good one), but I think, a little bit ahead of yourself. Mechanical processes first.

Lost Sheep

Hondo 60
November 16, 2012, 09:02 AM
Before worrying about any hardware needs, you need to read a reloading manual or 3.

My favorites are:
1. Lyman 49th Reloading Handbook.
This has an outstanding how-to section plus the widest array of reloading data of any manual published.

2. Modern Reloading by Richard Lee.
He tends to go overboard on how fantastic his hardware is, but it's still a very good manual.

3. ABCs of Reloading.
This is strictly a how-to manual, with no reloading data.

Once you understand what you're doing, then you can make an informed decision on what hardware you want.

Please, stay safe.

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