What Caliber for Hogs


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Hondo 60
November 14, 2012, 04:06 PM
When it comes to hunting I'm a total noob.

But next Fall (2013) we're talking about going to Tennessee to go hog hunting.

I'm thinking that's a good reason to buy a rifle.
I'm also a reloader, so I'd like a caliber that can be reloaded.
(current reload 8 handgun calibers & .223 Remington)

So whatcha say?

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Thompsoncustom
November 14, 2012, 04:20 PM
If you gonna reload I would say 45/70 that way no matter the size of the hog or the number it's not gonna stop that bullet.

primape
November 14, 2012, 04:26 PM
I am partial to 308. I have had lots of success with deer and hog using handloaded 150g Nosler ballistic tips. Usually drops them in their tracks.

oneounceload
November 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
Anything in a light, fast handling rifle will work, even your .223 - bullet selection and placement will mean more.

One of your handgun cartridges might also do the trick - something like a 357 or bigger

Reloadron
November 14, 2012, 04:34 PM
You will have plenty of variables. You may want to give this a read. (http://www.chuckhawks.com/feral_hog_cartridges.htm)

There is really a wide range of satisfactory cartridges that are suitable. Personally, in brush type country, I like large bullets so I lean towards .44 Magnum, 45-70 and really like the 444 Marlin any of which fired from a short handy carbine type rifle. Again. just me and the cartridge range is wide depending on surroundings and conditions. Give the link a read, it may help you out.

Ron

fields
November 14, 2012, 06:45 PM
243

Hondo 60
November 14, 2012, 07:40 PM
You will have plenty of variables. You may want to give this a read.


Reloadron - thank you - that was very interesting!

Kevin Rohrer
November 14, 2012, 07:40 PM
Bigger is better. .30caliber or better if you are on the ground. And have a heavy pistol with you, too. .41mag or better.

They make them big here in the East.

http://s666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Hogzilla.jpg

Reloadron
November 14, 2012, 07:49 PM
Glad you found the read interesting. A combination I like is a nice .44 Magnum carbine type rifle complimented by a nice .44 Magnum revolver like a S&W Model 29.

@ Kevin Rohrer, that would be one of those Medina, Ohio hogs. They are much smaller up here in the Cleveland burbs. :) Likely the famous Medina Hogasaurus variety.

Ron

jmorris
November 14, 2012, 08:32 PM
223 will do it but so will a 22 short, even on a photoshop hog like the one above. However, I have never killed one too dead and over the years concluded MY minimum was a 139g 7mm partition bullet and up from there. My current "hog gun" is a 458 socom (pretty much the same as a mild 45-70 that runs in a semiauto) with 405g or heavier bullets but that's for night hunting so all shots generally inside 150 yds.

Jim Watson
November 14, 2012, 08:39 PM
One of our club members with a hog infestation on the old family farm says he has not seen anything better than a plain .30-30 and few as good. And he has tried a bunch.

Another goes on guided boar hunts with a BFR .45-70.

ArchAngelCD
November 14, 2012, 08:53 PM
Whichever caliber you choose Winchester has a new ammo meant expressly for Hogs, it's caller Razorback XT Ammo. It comes in both .223 and .308 because those are the 2 most popular calibers on the AR platform. I read a writeup on the ammo and they say it works VERY well.
http://www.winchester.com/Products/rifle-ammunition/Advanced/Razorback-XT/Pages/default.aspx

You want something with a bullet tough enough to penetrate the plating on their upper areas and then expand when it gets to the vitals. The above suggestions for the .223, .243, .308, 444, 45-70 and a few others are all good choices. I think I would use either a rifle on the AR platform or a levergun because both will provide fast backup shots.

CZ57
November 14, 2012, 08:58 PM
Go here: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/finder/ and check out the Savage Hog Hunter in .308. Looks like the perfect rifle for hogs. ;)

bob4
November 14, 2012, 09:02 PM
I'm new to reloading but not hunting hogs. If your sitting in a good place a simple .22 behind the ear and there's no tracking involved. Their tough but your smart. ;)
Distance is going to involve something that can shoot said distance and what you can shoot decent at that distance.. Male hogs and their plate is no joke. The shoulder area is very well armored on them.

Charlie1022
November 14, 2012, 09:23 PM
The two I shot last year dropped in their tracks with my 444.

JLDickmon
November 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
I'd vote .44 Mag as well, because you probably have one.

But I've seen hogs taken with a Beretta 92

I've personally taken hogs with a longbow. Blew the arrow right through it.. hog took off running.. found the arrow laying on the ground, stopped to pick it up.. ended up anchoring the hog with the same arrow.

bob4
November 14, 2012, 09:39 PM
+1 on the bow hunt

allaroundhunter
November 14, 2012, 09:41 PM
I have got them with .22 short and LR, .223, .308, and .270 WSM... Next on the list is a new (to me) .444 Marlin

(and a couple with a bow)

Sent from my HTC One X

JLDickmon
November 14, 2012, 09:51 PM
Bob.. an original Snuffer head on a hard rock maple shaft.. finished arrow weighs 720 grains and has an 18% FOC

I've still got the arrow with the mount.. when I anchored the hog, it was a quartering away shot through the near shoulder blade, and broke the shoulder on the off side.. the tip is curled, otherwise I would still be shooting it..

SEE IT LIKE A NATIVE
November 14, 2012, 10:23 PM
I have killed a few with a Ruger Srh in .454 Casull . Works great ! Kevin

Lost Sheep
November 14, 2012, 10:37 PM
When it comes to hunting I'm a total noob.

But next Fall (2013) we're talking about going to Tennessee to go hog hunting.

I'm thinking that's a good reason to buy a rifle.
I'm also a reloader, so I'd like a caliber that can be reloaded.
(current reload 8 handgun calibers & .223 Remington)

So whatcha say?
Are you going to be hunting from a stand or will you be on the ground WITH the hogs? It will make a big difference to your safety.

If in a stand, you are safe from the hog (or its herd-mates) attacking you and you can decide to take or to not take a shot, waiting for perfect bullet placement.

If you are on the ground, you may come upon a hog (or he may come upon you) where the choice to shoot or to not shoot is not yours. Then you want a bullet that has a really good probability of penetrating, intact, to vital organs, no matter what the angle of entry is. If you want a quick stop, something heavy enough to break bones is a good idea, too.

Here's a thread (with an unphotoshopped photo) of a 750 lb boar taken with a .500 Wyoming Express handgun (not my kill). Scroll down about 20 posts to see more pictures of the pig that will convince you the first one was not altered.

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&f=2911043&m=236106768

Anyhow, if I was on the ground, I would want a heavy, large, bullet. If not in my gun, in the gun in the hands of my (trusted) safety backup.

Good hunting.

Lost Sheep

Steel Talon
November 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
I've always used my 25-06 w/115grain partition. My son uses his 6mm w/95 grain. Daughter killed her first with a 22WMR at 100yards 44CCI HP right behind the ear. Soon she will be using a 7mm-08. Several of the others in our group use the 223, a Socom , a thuty thuty..

Neck shots always deadly, Ear shot always deadly, Hogs anatomy for the boiler room sits a bit lower than one would think. Straight on head shots don't always work. Hog skulls are sloped and bullets can deflect. For a brain kill ideally the bullet needs to traverse both hemispheres. Hence the ear shot placement.

ST~

Nico Testosteros
November 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
I've used a .270 Win with 150gr Core-Lokts and GameKings. Not sure if I get pass throughs on the larger hogs but they drop and expire.

StretchNM
November 15, 2012, 01:35 AM
35 Remington should do fine.

CZ57
November 15, 2012, 02:11 AM
That is one hell of a pig in post #8! I'm not about to shoot one that size with a bow. ;)

ArchAngelCD
November 15, 2012, 03:04 AM
That is one hell of a pig in post #8! I'm not about to shoot one that size with a bow. ;)
Too bad that pig was found out to be a fake!

CZ57
November 15, 2012, 03:24 AM
Photoshop? ;)

JLDickmon
November 15, 2012, 06:01 AM
Photoshop? ;)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh yeah.

allaroundhunter
November 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
Too bad that pig was found out to be a fake!

False. The pig was most definitely real. However, it was not a wild hog, it was a domesticated pig. It is still pretty astounding how many rounds it took to bring him down.

jmorris
November 15, 2012, 06:48 PM
The photo linked to is the part that is exaggerated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Pig

It is nowhere near as authentic as this photo taken of an east Texas Lyon.


http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/gn/lion.jpg

snakeman
November 15, 2012, 06:50 PM
Good ole 308, 30-06, 30-30. you name it! My preference has been 6.8 spc, 30-30, and 308.

aerod1
November 15, 2012, 08:26 PM
Last April 13th I shot a 246 pound boar with my 223 loaded with 55 grain JSP over 23 grains of H335 at 110 yards. It was a head shot. :)

Hondo 60
November 15, 2012, 10:24 PM
Wow - Lost Sheep
I think I might wet myself if I have a hog that size comin' at me. :eek:

Right now I'm planning on taking my 20 Ga Browning A5 & Ruger Redhawk 44 Mag.
If I do get a rifle, I'm thinkin .30-06, that way I can use it for local deer hunting,
or if I don't hunt anymore, it'll sell easily.

We're goin to Caryona Hunting Lodge, Crossville TN.
I'm a disabled vet, I can't run & can't climb a tree either, unless there's a ladder on it - ;)

I just can't see using a .22lr or even .223, seein I'm a noob, I don't know how well I shoot at a moving target.
So I think that might be too cruel.

kelbro
November 15, 2012, 10:40 PM
I have killed hundreds of the vermin. Anything from a 22Mag to a 454 Casull will take them out. Just try to line them up where you kill two with each shot.

threefortyduster
November 15, 2012, 10:40 PM
Anything centerfire and over .243 really works on any size hog. Personally I prefer my .30-30 for my area, but I wouldn't hesitate to use anything .243+. The .223s work, and Winchester makes the delayed expansion round, but I can't argue with the pigs I've shot not usually taking a next step after the boom from a 170gr .30-30.

41 Mag
November 16, 2012, 08:44 AM
Like most here in Texas I have put plenty on the ground with everything from a .243 up through my 454, with my Ruger Compact in .308, probably accounting for most of them. I simply use the Green boxed Rem CL and not had much if any issues.

Like said putting the bullet where it needs to go is the primary deal, and hogs a re a bit different than a deer. Study up on this link and you should be good to go by the time you head out, Texasboars Hunting (http://www.texasboars.com/hunting/)

As for the safety thing, well I have been charged, and have been knocked around a bit, but overall it was more due to the fact I was in the path they were heading in. I did however have one big boar a bit over 400# (guesstimated) decide after I placed a 140gr BT though his shoulder from my 7x30 Waters, that he wanted to share in the pain. He was serious enough that he soaked up a 115gr Partition from my 25-06 literally at the muzzle, as he passed by me and turned to come back for more before falling over. I also had one that could have easily been it's brother, soak up two 180gr Golden Sabers from my 10mm at 20yds or less right under his ear, with only a loud grunt, and an immediate leaving the area with me and dogs in full pursuit. He did however lay down with a 170gr 30-30 round between his eyes at point blank.

These were only a couple of instances in literally hundreds of encounters. With most, you simply put one just under their ear and between the eye, and down they go with little to no fanfare. Heart/lung shots are good, but sometimes lead to a trailing job and in thick cover that can be an issue as sometimes the fat and hide can cover up or plug the bullet holes, leaving little trail to follow. Most we find hogs come in the 20 to 200 pound range. There are some bigger ones out there but they didn't get to that size being dumb. Hogs are a WHOLE lot smarter than folks give them credit for being and they learn things REALLY quick. Also never let anyone tell you they can't see very well as we have been picked off by them, down wind, at well over 200yds. If your upwind, well they will know so well before you get there. I think their sense of smell is about as good or better than a deer. IMO of course.

Simply pick something you are comfortable shooting, in a caliber that will work well for most anything else you might ever want to pursue, and once your good with it, go forth and have fun.

JLDickmon
November 16, 2012, 09:13 AM
Like said putting the bullet where it needs to go is the primary deal, and hogs a re a bit different than a deer.

that ain't no kiddin..

you shoot a hawg where you'd double lung a deer, you're coming up with a spine shot.. which is one thing if you're hunting with a bang-bang, quite another if you're using expandable broadheads..

JLDickmon
November 16, 2012, 09:15 AM
the photo linked to is the part that is exaggerated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/monster_pig

it is nowhere near as authentic as this photo taken of an east texas lyon.


http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/qvideo/gn/lion.jpg

LOLZ

moonzapa
November 23, 2012, 11:52 PM
I've shot three using a .280 Remington, all three didn't go anywhere. Shot placement has a lot to do with hog hunting. They have a different physiology than deer. Shoot for the head area, into the neck or into the frontal area of the shoulder, but do not shoot behind the front leg. Any of the thirty's should do the trick nicely, I'm partial to the .308 Win (FNAR) and will use in in the future. Good hunting!

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