One powder for 223 & 308?


November 16, 2012, 07:37 AM
I've used BL-C2 in the past with good results, but its not a very clean powder.
I use a Dillon 550B, so a granular / ball powder drops more consistently.

Any recommendations?

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November 16, 2012, 07:44 AM
You might give Win 748 a look. I have used it for 5.56mm but not the 7.62 yet. But the books show that it can be used for both.


Dave P
November 16, 2012, 08:22 AM
Varget or 4895 work fine for both. Stick powders.

November 16, 2012, 08:40 AM
TAC. Extremely clean burn, meters like water. Good to very good accuracy in the 5.56, superb in the 7.62.

November 16, 2012, 08:52 AM
IMR8208 meters great and is very stable. It's very well suited for the .223, but is slightly outclassed by Varget in .308.

MineralMan, A lot of people talk about TAC; I need to give it a try some time.

November 16, 2012, 08:57 AM
Virtually all my .223/5.56mm reloads use IMR 3031. IMR 3031 is also my favorite .308 powder with bullets of 150 grains and less.

November 16, 2012, 09:00 AM
I'll give TAC another vote.

evan price
November 16, 2012, 10:06 AM
Hodgdon H335. It's what I use for bulk 223 and 308.

Flatbush Harry
November 16, 2012, 11:02 AM
As noted above, Varget works very well in each.


November 16, 2012, 11:20 AM
I use TAC in .223/5.56 and it works great. I just need to be convinced it has the correct bloom time for the 7.62 M1A. Oh and it meters through the 550B very consistantly.

November 16, 2012, 12:19 PM

November 16, 2012, 12:38 PM
It's true that TAC is underrated and might be the best ball powder that works in both calibers.

It's also true that Varget deserves all the attention it gets and might be the best traditional extruded powder that works in both calibers. (I prefer H4985 in this category, though.)


Once I tried 8208 XBR (, I never went back to anything else for .223 and .308. It meters as well as ball powder and is as consistent and temperature-insensitive as extruded powder. (It's a very small extruded powder.)

It might not hit the top velocities that you can get from Varget or RL-15; I'm not saying it can't, but I haven't tested for that. For what I want--benchrest accuracy from volume-dropped powder--8208 is the holy grail.

Ky Larry
November 16, 2012, 12:40 PM
TAC and AA-2460.

November 16, 2012, 01:53 PM

November 17, 2012, 10:38 AM
I did a spreadsheet and calculated the cost per round to achieve 2900 fps with 55gr in 223. TAC was the least expensive by far. So I ordered 8 lbs of the stuff and have fallen in love. It's just an all-around great powder.

November 19, 2012, 08:54 AM
Blue Dot, Blue Dot, Blue Dot. Works Great in Both as well as 45ACP, 44Mag.

November 19, 2012, 08:57 AM
I know H4895 works great in my daughters .223, I'm sure you could find a load in .308 at Hodgdon site as well.

November 19, 2012, 04:57 PM
I am running H4895 in my Weatherby 223 pushing 55gr Hornady VMax and my Savage 308 with a 165gr Sierra BTSP, both are bolt action guns. I first bought the H4895 for reduced recoil loads for my son, but found load data to go with my rifles so instead of buying more powder (limited funds and storage space) I figured id try it out. With some minor load development I found a nice accurate charge for each, both are close to max reccomended loads.

I definatly want to experiment with some different powders for each in the future, but that will be a ways down the road I was happy enough with the results that I bought 4lbs which will last me a while. I dont shoot as often as I'd like.

Hodgdons should have load data on their website for it, good luck!!

November 19, 2012, 05:25 PM
I see alot of mention of Tac here. Is Tac temperature sensitive?

November 19, 2012, 05:30 PM
I see alot of mention of Tac here. Is Tac temperature sensitive?
Yeah, it is. That's one reason why I prefer 8208. I still think TAC is underappreciated, though.

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