Austin Gun Show (1-2 Dec)


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M2
November 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
The fine folks of Premier Gun Shows out of Ft Worth are hosting a gun show at the North Austin Event Center (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+austin+event+center&hl=en&ll=30.375763,-97.686181&spn=0.025139,0.045447&safe=off&hq=north+austin+event+center&t=m&z=15&iwloc=A), 10601 North Lamar Blvd, on 1-2 December 2012.

Premier has built their San Antonio show into one of the best in the state, and hope to do the same in Austin.

The hours will be Saturday 9 am 5 pm and Sunday 10 am 4 pm, and admission is $8 (children under 12 and uniformed peace officers get in free). Parking is free.

Subscribe to their Email Newsletter (http://austingunshow.com/join-mailing-list) and receive a printable $1 off coupon.

We've been attending their SA show for the past year and can attest than Tim and Michelle Finucane, as well as everyone else at Premier, work hard to put on an event that is enjoyed by all. We will be driving up to support this new show in Austin (plans are to hold it again 9-10 and 13-14 April 2013), and hopefully there will be as good of a turnout as there is in San Antonio.

Hopefully we'll see you at the show!

Cheers! M2

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saenzrich
November 18, 2012, 03:32 PM
Thanks for the update. I wonder how this will compare to the Saxet Gun show at the conventions center...that one is Dec 15-16.

danprkr
November 18, 2012, 05:33 PM
Are you sure of the location? Saxet had to give it up because the landlord got pressured by the police for supposed illegal private deals in the parking lot. Deals of course which NEVER resulted in any arrests much less convictions. However the landlord just didn't want the political hassle.

M2
November 18, 2012, 05:39 PM
That's what they've got on their website...

Austin Gun Show (http://austingunshow.com/show-info/austin-gun-show/)

As for how it will compare with SAXET, down here in SA the Premier show is much better. It has a lot more tables (1000-1200 vs 800), wider aisles, and more vendors that SAXET doesn't have.

Don't get me wrong, we pretty much go to the SA SAXET show every month; but the Premier show is the one that I usually find more interesting stuff at!

As for how it will do in Austin, that has yet to be seen. I know the promoter has more connections throughout the state having sponsored shows all over it, and they are larger than SAXET. But that area has always been a tough location for gun shows, folks either head up to the Ft Hood area or down here to SA...

Cheers! M2

breakingcontact
November 19, 2012, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the update. I wonder how this will compare to the Saxet Gun show

Exactly what I was going to ask.

Sounds like a good one. The SAXET one is pretty decent too though.

How can I not go to both?

danprkr
November 19, 2012, 04:06 PM
I just emailed them for a table. I like the folks at Saxet, but I hate that building so I may switch. I'm afraid though that this show is going to suffer from a lack of marketing, but I hope not.

Shuler13
November 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
I'll be going and bringing a friend. Living in northwest austin, I'm hoping this show becomes a regular thing. I love the San Antonio show but can't make it most of the time.

M2
November 19, 2012, 07:19 PM
I am trying to get word out about this show via various forums (here, Texas Gun Talk, and several others). Tim and Michelle are great folks, and are working hard to make this show a success which is why we will be driving up from SA to support them.

This can be a 'win-win' scenario for the firearms community up in Austin, SAXET has tried hard to reinstate shows there after the above-mentioned fiasco of a few years ago where the Austin PD and ATF illegally tried to stop private sales from happening both in the venue and out in the parking lot (more on the story here (http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Gun-show-owner-alleges-rights-violation-82115242.html)). Rumor was that the promoter gave in to the pressure despite claims in the media otherwise.

Tim and Michelle are the kind of folks that will do anything and everything to keep everybody happy, and I wish them all the success in this endeavor. It would help if people showed up to support them!

Cheers! M2

danprkr
November 19, 2012, 09:09 PM
FWIW - I got a nearly instantaneous reply to my table inquiry. They are sold out so that bodes well for the show even if bad for me. Now, let's just hope they can make the public aware. Saxet does radio ads the week before. Maybe they have something like that in the works. I'll for sure go and check it out.

M2
November 19, 2012, 09:36 PM
They usually do advertise, but it helps to get the word out as well...

saenzrich
November 20, 2012, 12:45 AM
They have a big highway banner if your getting on 183 southbound lakeline, lakecreek entrance. Across the Highway from the new HEB PLUS

danprkr
November 20, 2012, 03:51 AM
They have a big highway banner if your getting on 183 southbound lakeline, lakecreek entrance. Across the Highway from the new HEB PLUS

Good, I've been house bound for a few days and now so haven't seen anything.

kyletx1911
November 20, 2012, 07:45 AM
Imma comming

M2
November 20, 2012, 12:56 PM
Anyone up for breakfast before the show on Saturday? It's a tradition before gun shows here in SA, would be nice if some of us could meet up.

I don't know that area very well, so recommendations on good place to eat nearby would be gratefully appreciated!

Cheers! M2

saenzrich
November 20, 2012, 07:24 PM
They moved the Advertisement on 183 on the Northbound side facing the 183 southside traffic lanes just before Oak Knoll. This is the first advertisement I have seen for a gun show here in Austin. Saxet usually has a few commercial the week of the show but no public displays though. I'll be there with a Brand New 617 4" for sale I'll take 600.00 for THR members. I have two and this one hasn't been fired just dont need two and want a CZ 455 Varmint.

Guillermo
November 20, 2012, 09:09 PM
I look forward to checking it out.

Glad to have a place that doesn't charge for parking.

(that is a REALLY annoying aspect of SAXET)

hmphargh
November 20, 2012, 09:23 PM
Anyone up for breakfast before the show on Saturday? It's a tradition before gun shows here in SA, would be nice if some of us could meet up.

I don't know that area very well, so recommendations on good place to eat nearby would be gratefully appreciated!

Cheers! M2
For a typically "Austin" breakfast, you should stop by Kerbey Lane Cafe, Magnolia Cafe, or Juan in a Million. Kerbey Lane is probably best from a location standpoint. For something a bit quicker, there is a Torchy's Tacos not far from there.

Guillermo
November 20, 2012, 11:38 PM
Wish I could join y'all

I am teaching a self defense class that morning


:(

Guillermo
November 21, 2012, 10:05 AM
Had an email conversation with Tim, one of the owners of the gun show.

He is having some off duty APD officers patrol the parking lot during the show so as to maintain security. (the Crockett Center is not in the best neighborhood)

Has ads scheduled for KLBJ AM and in the Statesman.

Let's hope he has a great show.

jdh
November 21, 2012, 11:44 AM
For those who have not been to a show in that location get there early if you want to park. The building is shared with a Mexican indoor flea market. The parking lost is packed full by about 9am.

HankB
November 21, 2012, 11:44 PM
Sounds interesting. For a time there was another gun show held at a former Target store off I-35, but it was pathetic - small, and more junk like Sham-Wows and miracle motor oil than guns.

I know where the N. Lamar location is (I was there when an exhibitor had an ND a few years back :eek: ) and if tables are sold out, it should be decent. ($8 admission is a little high.)

Lately, I haven't had much luck at the Saxet show at the Expo Center . . . only major thing I ever found was an E-series S&W1911 SC. Several times I left empty-handed. (Didn't like paying to park either.)

M2
November 21, 2012, 11:53 PM
If I am not mistaken, the show at the old Target was a Texas Gun Shows event. I went to one a few years back, it was pathetic just as you described. I was in and out of there in less than 15 minutes. They host a show up on the NE part of San Antonio at the Live Oak Civic Center, last time I went to it was a couple of years ago as well and it was equally horrible. About the only show they've ever hosted that was halfway decent was down in Floresville, but it's been a year or so since we've been to it and I don't think it's doing well either! The only reason we go is that I knew some folks that live down that way, and it's always good to catch up with old friends!

And jdh, thanks for the info. At the SAXET shows down here in SA we arrive an hour before the doors open because there is an IHOP within walking distance. We'll have to factor that into our plans.

Guillermo, Tim and Michelle are the owners of Premier Gun Shows, two of the best folks you could ever meet. Their entire crew are great people as well, they work their butts off to make their show here in SA a success. Sorry you can make it, no chance of squeezing in the show before the self-defense class?

hmphargh, appreciate the breakfast recommendations! Anyone planning on eating before the show on Saturday and have a preference? Would be nice to meet a few of you when we're up for the show!

Cheers! M2

M2
November 22, 2012, 12:24 AM
Someone recommended Maudies just up the street (0.2 miles)...

http://www.maudies.com/10124716_47893.htm

Thoughts?

Cheers! M2

Shuler13
November 22, 2012, 12:50 AM
If I plan on arriving around noon, what should I attempt for parking?

jdh
November 22, 2012, 02:57 PM
By that time there will be folks leaving or going to lunch. Cruise through the parking lot and keep your eyes open for back up lights.

walker944
November 28, 2012, 10:47 AM
I wouldn't expect quite the vendor quantity. The North Austin Event Center is not that big of a facility compared to the Freeman Expo Halls in San Antonio. I've actually been thinking of heading up for the show. I always like going to the Premier show in San Antonio. As other stated, they attract unique vendors to their shows that SAXET and Texas Gun Shows don't have. I find myself skipping SAXET and Texas shows regularly because of vendor redundancy/burnout.

M2
November 28, 2012, 06:02 PM
It won't be nearly as big as the Freeman Expo show, but it beats seeing mostly the same folks with mostly the same stuff that we see every month at the SAXET show here in SA!

The bigger issue is for the folks in the Austin area, if support for this show isn't shown then it won't likely last long. Premier is taking a chance as the market in Austin is not nearly as good as it is in SA or DFW, plus the history of gun shows in that city isn't exactly stellar.

The SAXET show there is doing OK at best, and if it goes away and this one doesn't last, the firearms community in Austin will be left with their overpriced shops or driving several hours to go to a show! :barf:

We are only driving up to show our support, and hopefully get others to do the same. I honestly don't expect more than 300-400 tables and since I just bought a Springfield XD(M) earlier this month, my gun fund is pretty low at the moment; but that usually seems like the times I find some great deal on a gun I didn't know I wanted! :neener:

Cheers! M2

fields
November 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
How much are the primers at these shows?

M2
November 28, 2012, 11:12 PM
Unfortunately, I can't help ya, I'm not a reloader...

M2
December 1, 2012, 09:33 PM
We went this morning, there was a good-sized crowd waiting for the doors to open. We ended up talking to the first vendor inside, the guy with the StG44 Sturmgewehr on display. He recently acquired some pristine WWI German daggers and showed them to me and my son. Dang, they were impressive.

We walked around for a little over an hour talking to various vendors, there was a pretty good selection at the show but we didn't find anything I needed so we left empty-handed. That could be attributed to the fact that the same folks are putting on the larger San Antonio show next weekend, and I didn't want to spend what little remains of my "mad money."

Still, it was a good turnout and a great showing of vendors. It was worth the drive up from SA and anyone in the Austin area should definitely check out this show!

Cheers! M2

breakingcontact
December 1, 2012, 09:49 PM
Whoa. This is "this" weekend isn't it! Time flies.

backbencher
December 1, 2012, 10:48 PM
45 min to close, they're still charging full price? No thanks. If I have a couple hours to kill tomorrow, we'll see.

Shuler13
December 1, 2012, 10:51 PM
I went just after noon. Plenty of folks shopping and the venders seemed busy enough. Prices on guns were typical. The vendor near the door to the right had the biggest variety of pistols and some decent prices. I picked up an M&P9c for a fair price. Almost pulled the trigger on a few others but decided against it. It was a good show and I'd go back when they come back.

M2
December 1, 2012, 11:31 PM
Yep, this weekend. Will be open tomorrow as well...

Scott Farkus
December 2, 2012, 05:50 PM
I went today. Agree with Shuler13 - crowd seemed good, prices were typical (no screaming deals, but seemed fair for the most part). Good variety and I enjoyed seeing some different vendors than those that come to Saxet. Yes, the vendor to the right at the entrance had just about everything you could want. Except of course a Smith & Wesson Shield.

I was very tempted on a Marlin 30-30 and a couple of other things but had to resist because Christmas is coming.

I hope we can support two shows in Austin.

Scott Farkus
December 2, 2012, 06:15 PM
Time for a rant. If you're going to have a table at the show, PLEASE mark your items with the make, model, caliber and asking price. I saw three or four tables today that appeared to be private sellers (would be nice to have a sign that so indicated, also) with various firearms laid out with no signage whatsoever.

One guy had a row of what appeared to be stainless Smith & Wesson revolvers turned in by the Austin PD, but nothing was marked. He was busy talking to a buddy the first two or three times I stopped by and made no attempt to acknowledge me. I finally broke in and asked "what caliber are these" and he said "38-44", which I didn't really understand. Were some .38? Were some .44? They all looked the same to me, and none looked big enough for a .44 but what do I know? He immediately went back to talking to his buddy and I walked away. I have no idea what he wanted for them and I didn't feel it was my place to interrupt him again to ask. So I moved on.

Another guy had a number of rifles laid out. Three of them were lever action. I was in the market today for a 30-30 but nothing was marked, so I had to ask and turns out they were all something else. He then started talking about either the benefits, or pitfalls, of the 30-30 round but I couldn't understand him clearly, so I politely said "thanks" and moved on. Out of curiosity if nothing else, I would have been interested in knowing what make each gun was and what his asking price was, but since I was specifically looking for a 30-30 and knew I wouldn't buy one of his, I didn't bother asking him.

That's all. Thanks for listening.

breakingcontact
December 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
^regarding this^

customer service is desperately lacking in most businesses, especially the gun business and overall I've found customer service in most places in Austin to be pretty terrible.

That being said, I made it out to the show today too.

It was... "aight". Didn't buy anything, tried to buy a case of MREs (sign indicated cases or singles), guy was all sold out but nice about it. Plan to catch him at the SAXET show.

I too hope that ATX can support 2 shows. Relatively cheap entertainment and will be nice to stop by and pick up some odds and ends now and again.

This http://www.marketplaceaustin.com/

next door was the REAL treat! Wow! Will be going back there for sure!

jdh
December 2, 2012, 07:32 PM
Many of the "private dealers" are not there to sell. They are there so they can go back home and say "Honey I tried to sell them but you know the way the economy is nobody had money to buy".

breakingcontact
December 2, 2012, 08:26 PM
Also...a lot of guys really are at a gun SHOW not a gun sale. You can usually tell those guys. Its all good though. Did see some fair prices and nothing outrageous.

backbencher
December 2, 2012, 08:50 PM
Scott,

Apparently you were looking @ chromed .38"-44 S&W revolvers. The .38"-44 or .38/44 was a pre .357" Magnum round. I'm not aware of any being produced after S&W introduced stainless.

HankB
December 2, 2012, 09:18 PM
Got there Saturday morning a little before 10:00 AM. Good but not outrageous crowd - tables were spaced further apart than when the SAXET show used to be there, so fewer vendors. Admission $8.

The guy with the StG ("Not for sale") by the entrance had some Lugers that looked interesting, but seemed just a bit high for their condition. I've been looking for a Luger for a while and wanted to have a closer look and maybe haggle a bit, but he was jawing with one of his buddies behind the table with him and clearly had no interest in talking to a potential buyer, so I moved on.

Saw lot of EBRs.

Guy was cleaning eyeglasses with some blue anti-fog paste - sounded like the typical snake-oil salesman, but I let him clean my glasses - when I got them back, I had to take out my handkerchief and wipe off the smears. (I didn't buy his stuff.)

Another guy had a Savage/Stevens BE double - for $995! Much too high. Along with everything else on his table.

Saw a case full of Pythons for sale (including a NOT FOR SALE .41 Mag) but with prices around $2400 - $2600 the guy must have been on crack.

Heard a number of conversations . . .

At the ammo guy in back, someone was bluntly telling him "Your case prices are at least $100 more than the on-line prices - and shipping isn't as high as the sales tax you charge." The discussion seemed to be getting a little animated as I moved on. ;)

Two guys walking together: "I just bought that same rifle a couple of weeks ago, and I didn't pay near what he's asking."

"These guys are sure asking a lot."

Guy was selling jewelry, had a woman customer who wanted to buy something in front of his table, but he couldn't figure out what he was charging. :rolleyes:

Saw a decent looking 4" M-28, but the seller couldn't seem to make up his mind whether it was $825 or $875. (He was talking to another customer.) Nothing on his table was marked . . .

Which was the problem already mentioned - LOTS of tables with no prices or descriptions - and a lot the vendors didn't seem to have any interest in talking to potential customers.

I left empty handed.

Scott Farkus
December 2, 2012, 10:25 PM
Scott,

Apparently you were looking @ chromed .38"-44 S&W revolvers. The .38"-44 or .38/44 was a pre .357" Magnum round. I'm not aware of any being produced after S&W introduced stainless.
Interesting. I wasn't even aware that there was such a thing. Thanks for the info!

Any ballpark idea what one of those might go for?

Anger
December 3, 2012, 12:32 AM
How much are the primers at these shows?

$30.95/1000 or $28.65/1000 5 boxes

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