corn - question from a Aussie


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interarm
November 19, 2012, 12:14 AM
In Australia using corn as a bait /feed for pigs / hogs is not as common as in USA
Do you feed it as whole grain or cracked / gristed

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a-sheepdog
November 19, 2012, 12:35 AM
Plain whole corn, nothing special.

Certaindeaf
November 19, 2012, 12:45 AM
I think grits is usually prepared using boiling water. lolz

interarm
November 19, 2012, 01:45 AM
Many thanks ,we usually use grains such as oats , wheat ect
I want to try corn to see how it goes

Cheers

Patocazador
November 19, 2012, 05:56 AM
If the deer aren't used to corn, it will take a while for them to develop a 'taste' for it if there are other adequate food sources.
We tried growing corn for deer in Alabama where the local crops were soybeans and cotton. It turned out to be a bust. The deer preferred the higher protein soybeans and acorns over the corn.

Texan Scott
November 19, 2012, 08:56 AM
^^^ Probably very true. I'm not sure there's anything special about corn, except here it's cheap and they're used to it. If it's more expensive where you are, or not known to the animals, there's little point. Also, they get little nutrient value from it as they don't digest it much better than people do.

MtnCreek
November 19, 2012, 09:06 AM
The good thing about corn is it's ability to resist moisture better than most other grains., but that's probably not a big concern in Australia. Around here, deer won't touch it when acorns are in or during the spring when all the tender sprouts are starting to grow. Right now (after the few frosts we've had), deer would just about fight a coon for some corn. :)

interarm
November 20, 2012, 02:27 AM
HI Texan Scott
Yes you would be correct ,they arent used to corn over here in Western Australia ,I bought 5 kilos the other day cost me $10 au
so will go back to what I have used in the past successfully
Oats,Wheet soaked in molasses and fruit, apples ,plums ect
Regards
everyone
Interarm

alsaqr
November 20, 2012, 04:18 PM
My hog traps are baited with whole corn or, sometimes, sweet feed. Hogs can't resist corn that is sprinkled with strawberry jello.

http://i.imgur.com/IgSjRl.jpg

interarm
November 21, 2012, 01:29 AM
That trap is identical to mine in size and design !!
I will give the stawberry jello a try ,I have used
the raspberry cordial trick with success,by placing
the bottle on top of trap ,with a small hole in bottom
and letting cordial slowly drip down onto bait

cowpoke
November 21, 2012, 11:21 PM
Sour the corn first it will draw them in from further away.

interarm
November 22, 2012, 12:44 AM
Cowpoke
How do you sour your corn

alsaqr
November 22, 2012, 11:48 AM
To sour corn:

Fill a five gallon bucket just over half full of corn. Pour water in the bucket to cover the corn by about 2-3". Sit in the sun. The corn will sour in about one week. Used sour corn for many years. IMO: Its not worth the trouble.

We deliberately attract hogs by using feeders set to fed about 30 minutes prior to sunset. When the hogs are coming to the feeder; the trap is installed close to the feeder, baited with corn sprinkled with strawberry jello and left open to allow the hogs access. The feeder run time is cut back. This forces hungry hogs into the trap. When hogs are going into the trap, it is set.

This scenario has worked very well for us. At one property the hogs won't enter a trap with a floor: So we cover the floor with dirt.

Happy hog trapping.

jmr40
November 22, 2012, 05:20 PM
Corn isn't used everwhere. Illegal here.

MtnCreek
November 23, 2012, 04:07 AM
alsagr,
I thought you were supposed to add yeast and sugar to it and keep it in the shade and stir it every day. That's how we always did it. :)

H&Hhunter
November 23, 2012, 11:05 AM
Corn isn't used everwhere. Illegal here.

Where is here?

jrdolall
November 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
Corn is illegal in Alabama but I have hunted over it in other places. In areas where there is plenty of natural food the deer will eat corn but the vast majority of visits will be at night. I use corn pre-season and put a game camera out to see what is in the area. I use it after the season to see which bucks survived and 99.99% of pictures are at night. In GA, where it is legal, I have never personally seen a mature deer eating corn in the daylight. I know plenty of people who hunt over corn in Alabama and they do not see any more deer than I do. Some use feeders and others just pour it out of a bag. We just have too many acorns for the deer to come running to a corn feeder. The ground is covered right now and they will fall for another 2 weeks or so.

interarm
November 27, 2012, 04:26 AM
Why is it illegal ,is it because it is taking advantage of the animal or
some other reason

jrdolall
November 27, 2012, 08:18 AM
The state has about 250 reasons that corn is a "bad" thing. Most of the adjoining states now allow baiting in some form or another and Bama will probably follow along soon.
Unfair advantage? Easier for diseases to spread? All of the negatives are probably based on some true concerns and I am fine with the law. I know that corn really helps people hunting in planted pines as these areas are difficult to hunt unless you can somehow draw the deer to an opening. That is why it is so successful using corn in Texas.

newbuckeye
November 27, 2012, 08:55 AM
You can't use bait of any kind in most western states.

MCgunner
November 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
Just plain corn goes in my feeder. What really seems to work, of all the wisdoms I've heard from rotten corn to beer to whatever, is to sprinkle strawberry jello over the corn in the trap.

We use feeders here in Texas. Don't listen to the nay-sayers, they're just jealous yankees. :D

http://i38.tinypic.com/2iiyae9.jpg

Deer like it, too.

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alsaqr
November 27, 2012, 11:43 AM
i don't use corn for baiting deer; its used to supplement the very poor diet mother nature has provided here in SW OK for the past several years. There have been few acorns or pecans since 2007.

Here in OK we are in our third year of a very serious drought. In 2011 and 2012 the deer had no green forage from June until the wheat got tall enough to eat. i'm convinced that many more does would have lost their fawns if not for our supplemental feeders.

i personally do not shoot deer under or near feeders. Hogs do not get the same consideration; i often trap or shoot hogs at feeders.

MCgunner
November 27, 2012, 10:56 PM
We've had the same drought, but it's moderated. Coming back now, though, considered a "mild" drought condition. Corpus is REALLY hurtin', both of their primary lakes WAY low, but they're not getting water from Texana, up my way, and it's almost full. We got rains this spring, made a decent acorn crop, and the feeder doesn't work well in good years as acorns are much better for the deer than corn. Corn is candy to them. All the statements above about deer not coming to the feeder in daylight are pretty true where there's hunting pressure and there is around my place since it's a collection of small tracts that are hunted. I have killed more deer away from the feeder than at it, though, and oft times it was rut that brought 'em along, not corn. They were chasing doe.

Corn REALLY works for pigs, but they're nocturnal by nature and I'm not. So, I tend to let my trap to the pig hunting. LOL At my new place, I've just bought a proximity sensor and I'm going to bait a spot in the woods that I can see from the back of the house, flintnapper style. :D This should be interesting, pig hunting from the back porch. The woods there are infested with pigs and I had wallows in the back yard when I first went to look at this house. This just MIGHT make gardening a might difficult. Might have to buy some hog wire and a post hole digger if I'm going to have a garden. Hell, I might need an 8 ft game fence considering all the deer around there.

interarm
November 28, 2012, 03:42 AM
Gentle men I would like to take this opportunity to complement all who contribute to this very interesting informative forum
I and no doubt many other hunters ,find all the comments so interesting
and helpful

interarm

from down under ( West Aussie )


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