Tractor Supply Cannon 24 gun safe


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razorback2003
November 20, 2012, 02:57 PM
Anyone have this Cannon 24 gun safe from Tractor Supply? Any problems with the electric lock? I have narrowed my safe choices down to this 24 gun Cannon Safe from TSC and also a 16 gun safe with a dial lock made by Field And Stream at Dick's.

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ColtPythonElite
November 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
My brother has had one for nearly 10 years and no problems. Cannon has a great warranty...on paper, anyway.

a1abdj
November 21, 2012, 02:33 AM
Cannon has a great warranty...on paper, anyway.

I have found that Cannon has been very slow to respond, or will fail to respond when needed. My experience at least.

helotaxi
November 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
I looked at the Cannon at TSC and passed on it for the Winchester that they carry. Much better fit and finish on the Winchester, though it's not as big and I need a second one.

DM~
November 21, 2012, 10:00 AM
I've had no problems with my Cannon safe, bought it at TSC several years ago.

DM

jcredman
November 21, 2012, 10:06 AM
I have a Cannon I bought from Academy Sports a few years ago, no problems so far, been good. I have a friend that bought the Winchester, and he has had no problems with his, but we have found out from my stand point I really like a light color interior, its a whole lot easier to see inside, put a light kit in and its great, with dark colored interiors, not much light in there.

jdh
November 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
On paper?

I bought the jumbo Cannon from TSC. After the wild fire in 2011 I sent pics of the safe to Cannon. Got an e-mail back with some forms to fill out. Filled out the forms and sent them back. About a month later I see a semi trying to turn around in the in front of the house then pull into my drive. The driver gets out and asked the usual question Name, address, and such. I ask why he needed to know. He said I've got something for you, it looks like a safe.

Sure enough Cannon replaced my safe and shipped it direct to me 100% covered by warranty. Ok, it is not a safe but an RSC. They replaced a safe destroyed by fire through no fault of their own at no cost.

Cannon stands behind their product.

To the OP,
I have had no problems with the lock on either the old one or its replacement.

razorback2003
November 21, 2012, 04:26 PM
Did the guns in your safe hold up with the fire? I just assumed with this safe being lighter than the Winchester safe it would not hold up as well. If i could fit the winchester safe in my closet, i would get that for fifty more dollars, but the Cannon I think will work to keep the average meth head out of my guns.

jdh
November 21, 2012, 08:09 PM
It was buried under the collapsed burning house for 3+ days. There is not a safe on the market that would have saved the contents.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/jhooten/DSCN0402.jpg

4v50 Gary
November 21, 2012, 08:35 PM
JDH - that's one heckuva a photo.

helotaxi
November 22, 2012, 10:41 PM
It was buried under the collapsed burning house for 3+ days. There is not a safe on the market that would have saved the contents.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/jhooten/DSCN0402.jpg
Pretty bold statement. I think that you'd be surprised what's on the market. But you'll need to add a zero on the end of the price of the Cannon at the least to get into something that would have definitely saved the contents.

Sturdy Safe would have done considerably better than the Cannon.

jdh
November 22, 2012, 11:44 PM
There are many on the market that would have done better than the Cannon. The fire burned out of control for 5 days before an effective response could be mounted. It is a heavily wooded area that has been in a significant drought for 18 months before the fire. One of the firefighters from California made the comment that he has never seen a fire that was as hot as this one. One particular thing he said was "We don't see engines melted out of cars in out fires." Melting point of Al is 1240 degrees. Stainless steel at 2750. One side of my stainless steel refrigerator was gone.

Check the fire rating on you safe. Patriot, for example, list theirs at 1800 for 90-120 minutes and cost 4 times what I paid for the same sized Cannon. Still would have not protected them in my case. I'm confident my claim was accurate.

heeler
November 23, 2012, 01:58 AM
Let's get the facts straight right now guys.
In a fire such as the one jdh spoke about nothing short of a UL rated two hour fire tested safe is going to protect the contents of your safe in that type of hellfire scenario...And maybe not even then.
And certainly the Cannon Tractor Shop Import or the Patriot Import is going to cut it with their lightweight sheetrock insulation and I truely doubt the Sturdy or even my Amsec BF could protect the contents in that type of inferno.
To think they would is laughable.

Elkins45
November 23, 2012, 08:51 AM
It was buried under the collapsed burning house for 3+ days. There is not a safe on the market that would have saved the contents.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/jhooten/DSCN0402.jpg
How did you get it open to take this picture? Sawzall?

jdh
November 23, 2012, 12:33 PM
If I told you I'd.......

Yes. Dewalt 18V cordless, the electric was not on yet.

One of my idiot friends offered to use his torch to do it. I still had hope at that point and didn't want to risk it.

pic1083
November 27, 2012, 06:27 PM
My post of yesterday seems to have disapeared. So I'll try again.

Hope you are an NRA member and you activated your insurance, and maybe bought extra.
Did your home owners insurance cover the contents?
If so, would you share which company?
Thanks

Batty67
November 28, 2012, 11:02 AM
I have the WInchester 24-gun (more like 16, but I knew this beforehand) from TS with the electronic lock, only for about a year, but no issues at all to date. Good fit and finish. It should defeat casual and even somewhat determined thieves unless they have a lot of time on their hands. But I have a loud dog and retired neighbors on both sides of my surburban home.

jdh
November 28, 2012, 08:20 PM
Hope you are an NRA member and you activated your insurance,

I sent the forms in, They could find no record of it. (been a member for a while)

Did your home owners insurance cover the contents?

$200.00 TOTAL!

pic1083
November 29, 2012, 05:39 PM
That's totally unacceptable. Dang insurance companies make millions by
not paying out or offer pennies on the dollar.

helotaxi
November 29, 2012, 09:14 PM
That's totally unacceptable. Dang insurance companies make millions by
not paying out or offer pennies on the dollar.
Which is why you carry a rider on you HO insurance specifically to cover the guns in the event of a total loss like that. Costs a little bit extra, but not that much. No different than anything specific of high value.

Cesiumsponge
November 30, 2012, 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by jdh
It was buried under the collapsed burning house for 3+ days. There is not a safe on the market that would have saved the contents.
Check out some of the history behind the Great Chicago Fire in 1871. Many high quality safes survived the incredibly hot raging infernos which consisted of high density wood structures completely burnt down and safes buried in piles of hot ashes for days. That's probably very similar to the intensity of a raging forest fire. They protected their contents. That was done with technology that had been around for 200 years. The technology was old in 1871. Diebold claims all 878 (http://www.diebold.com/150/featurestories_1871.htm) recovered Diebold safes from the fire had contents survive intact.

It can obviously still be done today but no one does due to modern response times of firefighting. The longest I've seen is a 4-hour UL Class 150 for a large Schwab media safe. That'll keep your contents under 150F for four hours. I've got my important media like hard drives, disks, SD cards, and thumb drives stored in a UL UL 72 Class 125 safe that keeps things under 125F in a fire. These types of items won't survive in the 350F temperatures seen inside a normal fire safe.

Sheetrock isn't used in any UL-approved fire safe. Only gun safes. At least you got a free replacement. I'm curious if most other gun safe companies would be just as responsive in the same situation.

Originally Posted by helotaxi
Sturdy Safe would have done considerably better than the Cannon.
Unless you had one side-by side at the same time in the same fire, that's a baseless claim. No UL-approved fire safe uses ceramic wool for fire protection either so using Sturdy to bash the Cannon is like the pot calling the kettle black. Gun safe companies won't use modern fire barriers because their products would simply become too heavy, expensive, and not feasible to sell to the general homeowner.

First, fire safes can moisture into the contents by design to prevent paper products from charring, turning your gun safe into a 350F sauna rust-o-rama. To solve this, you'd have to build a gun safe the same way they build data safes to prevent humidity from ruining the contents, which is a fire safe within a sealed safe. Unfortunately, a safe large enough to store rifles will be 7 feet tall with 10" thick double-insulated walls and weighs in excess of 3,000lbs. Don't forget depth. With the 30" wide doorways in modern residential homes, a 30" deep safe will limit you to 10" of storage depth.

It's really asking the impossible to get UL-approved fire ratings in a safe that'll fit enough guns at a reasonable price, size, and weight. I don't expect my guns to survive a major fire. That's what insurance is for.

greyling22
December 1, 2012, 01:38 AM
most of what TSC sells is serviceable, but cheap. I assume the safe they sell is no different. I know the stores I build for them are.

jdh
December 1, 2012, 09:39 AM
BTW, fire was the last thing considered. I live in a rural subdivision that seldom sees a patrol car unless it is in response to a call. The prime consideration was slowing down a theft.

content
December 1, 2012, 11:10 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // MY Cannon, 24 gun from TS, lock has had no problem.

My Winchester, 24 gun from TS, lock did go out but they sent out a tech to replace it after going thru the necessary hoops.

My oldest, a 1979?? Sportsman, dial lock, has had no problems nor has it used any batteries.

Speed of access is the main difference but after the failure of the Win. electronic lock I placed the most necessary things(check book, I.D. ...) in my dial lock.

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