Reloading question


November 20, 2012, 04:52 PM
Rookie mistake - I loaded up some rounds for the 50-70, but ran out of bullet lube. Will Bore Butter work until I get some more SPG? (5 rounds)

If you enjoyed reading about "Reloading question" here in archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join today for the full version!
Prairie Dawg
November 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
What do you mean by "work"?

November 20, 2012, 05:43 PM
I don't know if it will work in a cartridge or not but I'd guess that it won't be ideal due to Bore Butter's low melting point. I don't even like it on maxi-balls due to its tendency to turn liquid so easily.

You could make up a concoction of something like 'rooster jack' by mixing about 5-7 parts of crisco with one part beeswax .. melt them together and mix. If you want it thicker (harder), add more beeswax. If you want it more pliable, add more crisco. Don't get it too hot or it will burn.

Acorn Mush
November 20, 2012, 05:56 PM
Pohill, did you mean you loaded unlubed bullets into charged cases? If so, I don't think simply applying some Bore Butter to the exposed surface of the bullet will be enough. If you intend to pull any unlubed bullets and then apply Bore Butter prior to reinserting into the cases, I don't believe you will be happy with the results. Bore Butter becomes soft at room temperature. However, you might get acceptable results by thickening it up with the addition of either some bees wax or paraffin wax.

Good luck, and let us know how it worked out for you.

November 20, 2012, 06:24 PM
I loaded the powder, reached for the SPG to lube the bullets but there's not enough left. So, I have loaded cartridges waiting for the bullets to be seated.
Yeah, now that I think of it, Bore Butter doesn't stand up to heat at all. I'll get some more SPG or try the beeswax/Crisco formula.

November 20, 2012, 06:44 PM
If'n I were you, I think I'd either:

a) Whip up some homemade lube
b) Leave them unlubed
c) Go get some more SPG

Which you choose depends on how much time you have, and how much you are worried about it.

November 20, 2012, 06:47 PM
Any suggestions on a beeswax source?

November 20, 2012, 06:51 PM
Did you already load the cartridges without lube? It's not clear from your first post.

Anyway, some folks at the cast boolits forum say peanut butter makes a good cast rifle bullet lube. I *think* they are serious...

November 20, 2012, 06:54 PM
No, I haven't seated the bullets yet.
Peanut butter? Mixed with what?
When I said "rookie mistake" I meant that I didn't plan it out enough.

November 20, 2012, 07:13 PM
Just peanut butter. I haven't tried it yet, but it actually makes sense -- unless it's just a joke and I fell for it. :D

November 20, 2012, 10:13 PM
i got a nice amount of beeswax off ebay. i gave up looking local and this stuff was already filtered ready to go. the price was acceptable.

Have you had a look in the fridge for some crisco/veg fat etc?

November 20, 2012, 10:41 PM
I just ordered some beeswax online. I used to make lube pills for my BP revolvers - beeswax, Crisco, and paraffin. I'll probably leave the paraffin out.
There's alot of recipes for BP lubes online. Beeswax and Crisco looks like the easiest.

November 21, 2012, 12:42 AM
I've used beeswax 50/50 with olive oil or lard or deer tallow. The BW/olive oil was a little tacky or soft. The BW/lard was pretty good (and cheap too). The BW/deer tallow is best: firmer but a good lube for my Lyman sizer. You don't want to know how much that deer tallow probably REALLY cost me to get but I just couldn't let 2" of back fat go to waste so I rendered about 5 lbs of it. Supposedly mutton tallow is even better but the deer was "in hand". A 50/50 BW and peanut oil is also supposed to be good. Arguably, SPG tops them all and you ought to stick to one lube while working up a load.

Driftwood Johnson
November 21, 2012, 12:46 AM

I used to make up my own BP bullet lube from a 50/50 mixture of Beeswax and Crisco. Did it for years before I bought my Starr lubrisizer, pan lubed the bullets in the oven. Melted a chunk of beeswax in a double boiler on the stove top, then added in a similar sized glob of Crisco. Actual proportions were not too critical, just tried to eyeball it at 50/50.

November 21, 2012, 07:08 PM
Vaseline, and the red wax from gouda o. r edam cheese
Used it for decades now

4v50 Gary
November 21, 2012, 07:13 PM
Gouda cheese red wax and vaseline? What ratio?

I generally throw the red wax into the fireplace.

November 22, 2012, 10:41 AM
About equal.
Depends on the viscosity of the petroleum jelly
Most of the cheese wax used today is a special food grade microcryllaline synthetic wax.

dagger dog
November 22, 2012, 05:44 PM
Buck Emmert's lube;

1750 grains Beeswax
1368 grains Crisco Shortening
328 grains Wesson Oil-Vegatable oil

melt in double boiler, pan lube.

November 22, 2012, 05:56 PM
Buck Emmert's lube was mentioned in this 5 yr old thread by poster Dale53 (he modified it a little). It looks like a good one.

November 23, 2012, 12:02 PM
I combine beeswax and olive oil for a reasonable lube in my 50-70. Start at 50/50 and increase one of the other until you get the consistency you want. I go for a little stiffer than lip balm.

November 23, 2012, 10:42 PM
I use paraffin and Crisco in equal proportions. It doesn't have to be perfect, I usually just eyeball it. It works in my cap and ball revolvers, I don't see how it wouldn't work in a .50-70 or any other BP cartridge.

If you enjoyed reading about "Reloading question" here in archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join today for the full version!