83 yr old flips out - 3 dead


November 21, 2012, 04:50 PM

TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) Three people died Tuesday in what appears to be a double murder-suicide at a senior citizens' high-rise south of Los Angeles, police said.

A man in his 80s apparently shot two women shortly after noon before turning the gun on himself in the lobby of the Golden West Tower apartments in Torrance, said Sgt. Robert Watt.
One of the women was an employee of the apartment complex, but victim identities are being withheld until next of kin is notified, Watt said.

Witness Arturo Ramirez, who works at the Golden West Towers, told the Los Angeles Times he locked himself in an office to call 911 after seeing a man who lived in the facility holding a gun.

Ramirez said he heard one of the women killed say, "Please, no! Please!" and then heard two gunshots. A final gunshot came a few minutes later.
Police are still investigating the man's motive, but residents and staff from the senior center told NBC4 that the man had been behaving erratically, and many of them were seeking to have him kicked out of the complex.
"People knew that he was a little bit off," Golden Tower employee Alex Galindo told the TV station. "People were warned, but nobody did anything, so I know there's going to be blood on a lot of people's hands. That's all I can say at this point."

A handgun was recovered at the scene.
Watt said the building's management had received complaints about the alleged shooter but police were never alerted.
Police were trying to obtain surveillance camera recordings of the shooting, he said.

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November 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
From a THR rules sticky;;

Posting off-topic news articles
We seem to be having issues with folk trying to turn THR into some form of news outlet for anything tangentially involving a gun, and that simply fails to support the mission statement of THR:

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Just because a news story has a gun associated with it does NOT make it suitable for discussion on THR. News stories are suitable for discussion here only when the story contains clear and unambiguous self-defense, home defense, firearms-centric, or RKBA aspects *and* when there is readily discernible detail in the news accounts sufficient to support a rational discussion.

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November 22, 2012, 01:16 AM
What aspect of this do you want to discuss? No offense but we can all get news from many other sources. This is a forum for DISCUSSION. A breif news article where we are not informed of all the details is usually not worth more than a passing glance

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