shooting slugs through a gun with a screw in choke


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old fart
November 23, 2012, 04:40 PM
will it hurt to shoot slugs in a single barreled shotgun with a screw in choke? i will be using a improved cylinder choke tube with foster type slugs. will it blow my choke tube out? thanks

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tacxted
November 23, 2012, 04:54 PM
i shoot foster slugs through my IC choke with no issues.

make sure the choke is hand tight before shooting. If you plan to shoot several slugs check and retighten ,if needed, after a few shots. If you dont already have it, buy some choke tube lube and put some on the choke threads. It will help with removing the choke if it gets overtightened.

If you still have concerns contact the manufacturer of the choke. I imagine they will tell you the same.

rcmodel
November 23, 2012, 05:01 PM
No it will not hurt to shoot slugs through any degree of choke tube up to Full.

Probably shouldn't shoot them through extra and extra extra full turkey chokes.

And Mossberg specifically says not to shoot them in the 935? back bored barrel.

If it would hurt anything, there would have to be a warning on the slug boxes.
And there isn't.

rc

icanthitabarn
November 23, 2012, 09:38 PM
Learn something new, everyday. I thought it had to be IC bore, or close.

deadarrow
November 23, 2012, 09:47 PM
I shoot rifled slugs through my 930spx with a mod choke screwed in. Never had a problem and they are accurate. Probly wouldn't shoot'em through a full choke tho. Might mash the rifling and hurt the accuracy some.

dak0ta
November 24, 2012, 07:41 AM
You can shoot through the Full, but the slug will be swaged down more and distorted more than if you fired it through IC. Also, repeated firing in a Full choke might eventually open up the choke.

Jason_W
November 24, 2012, 03:27 PM
They make screw in rifled choke tubes specifically for slug use, so my guess is no, though like a poster above mentioned, it might not be a great idea through a super tight choke.

blarby
November 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
will it hurt to shoot slugs in a single barreled shotgun with a screw in choke?

Nope.

And RC has about the best answer to this one.

I will add that a large portion of "rifled slug" design was incorporated to allow full size slugs to slim down through inappropriate chokes.

Many common slug mould makers purposefully design their moulds so that the dropped slug, plus a wad, will clear even extremely reduced chokes with ease.

When in doubt ?

Break down a hull.

Measure the slug, and if its a slug in a sabot or wad, measure them together.

Measure your choke restriction.

If you don't have the ability to do this, and the slugs are modern production- shoot them with confidence.

dak0ta
November 24, 2012, 06:25 PM
Or you can melt wax and convert trap loads into slugs.... (let's not go there!) haha

oneounceload
November 24, 2012, 06:57 PM
i will be using a improved cylinder choke tube with foster type slugs. will it blow my choke tube out? thanks

Why would you think that in the first place?

Carl N. Brown
November 24, 2012, 07:48 PM
I have a Savage 24 in 30-30 over 12ga, with screw in chokes for the shotgun barrel. Improved Cylinder gives the best accuracy with standard Foster type slugs, traditional rifled slugs. That is why IC is recommended.

If screw-in full chokes won't blow out with heavy duty turkey loads in 3", they shouldn't blow out with a soft lead slug.

rcmodel
November 24, 2012, 07:59 PM
Might mash the rifling and hurt the accuracy some. The "rifling" on a Forster type slug has absolutely nothing to do with accuracy.

The vanes are there purely to give excess lead a place to go when shot in a tight choke.

(But if you take a shell apart and drop an unfired slug through a full choke barrel?
It will fall right through it.)

The vanes do not spin the slug, because no laminar flow air ever touches the vanes until the slug drops below supersonic speed and the bow shock-wave disperses at well beyond the accurate range of one.

Once that happens, it allows air to flow smoothly over the vanes and possibly start to spin it.

But by then, it is too late to do any good.

Forster slugs fly point first with some degree of accuracy because they are hollow, heavy in front, and light in the back.

Just like a Badminton Shuttlecock.


rc

old fart
November 25, 2012, 06:14 PM
well i shot the slugs and the gun is fine, however it shot a foot low at 50yds. it has a 28" barrel and i'm thinking of cutting it down to 18.5 inches. i'm getting a shorter stock too, as the one on it is too long for me. will a shorter stock help me?, or cutting the barrel down? i would like for it to shoot slugs good but if nothing else i'll make a good camp and trapping gun. thanks

tacxted
November 26, 2012, 10:22 PM
OLD FART : well i shot the slugs and the gun is fine, however it shot a foot low at 50yds. it has a 28" barrel and i'm thinking of cutting it down to 18.5 inches. i'm getting a shorter stock too, as the one on it is too long for me. will a shorter stock help me?, or cutting the barrel down? i would like for it to shoot slugs good but if nothing else i'll make a good camp and trapping gun. thanks

As far as the short stock fitting better, if you think it will be better than, it probably will be. I dont think it will shift your group up tho.

If it were my gun I would resist cutting the barrel down to try to move your group up. I would instead buy some rifle or peep sights and install them. (Im assuming your barrel is just a bead) Take a look at some of these websites.

ted

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/
http://xssights.com/index.php

Deltaboy
November 26, 2012, 10:29 PM
This I know a slug in 12 gauge full choke kicks like a mule!

old fart
January 15, 2013, 03:22 PM
i tried a rueb shotgun sight halfway down the barrel and it helped as it lets me take part of the barrel and my shots went up. but its made from plastic and it could get moved from a solid hit to it. i have wondered about a barrel mount that would fit just in front of the forarm, then put a small red dot on the mount. do ya'll think that would work? thanks

Husker_Fan
January 15, 2013, 03:46 PM
POA and POI with slugs can be an issue. I put a "rib rider" on the rib of my 21" barrel and mounted a red dot to it. It basically gives me a reflex sight that I can zero for slugs at 50 yards. The buck shot I've patterned has a POI that is close enough up to 25 yards that I am fine using the same red dot set up for both slugs and shot.

jogar80
January 15, 2013, 04:00 PM
I've been using some Federal slugs out of my smoothbore. The box does indicate that the choke should be IC at most. So, it is a good idea to check the box before you shoot.

oneounceload
January 15, 2013, 04:00 PM
This I know a slug in 12 gauge full choke kicks like a mule!

Choke has nothing to do with recoil

i tried a rueb shotgun sight halfway down the barrel and it helped as it lets me take part of the barrel and my shots went up. but its made from plastic and it could get moved from a solid hit to it. i have wondered about a barrel mount that would fit just in front of the forarm, then put a small red dot on the mount. do ya'll think that would work? thanks

Why not just get a barrel with rifle sights already on it?

old fart
January 15, 2013, 05:11 PM
[QUOTE] Why not just get a barrel with rifle sights already on it?

i've thought about that, i called and it will be $148 for a tracker II barrel. that includes all labor and shipping charges.

oneounceload
January 15, 2013, 08:29 PM
Look for used, trying to jerry-rig the sights, if wrong, will result in misses; paying a smith to install after purchasing sights would not be much cheaper

Deer_Freak
January 15, 2013, 10:52 PM
I have a 4x scope on my slug gun. I can hit a 2" target every time at 60 yards with just plain old super x slugs. My rifled barrel shoots plain old 3" super x slugs just as well as sabots out to 75 yards. At extended ranges the sabots shine. At around 150 yards I can hit a paper plate every time wth the Winchester 300 grain sabots. It would likely do the same at 200 yards. I have never brought the slug gun to a place where I have room for a 200 yard shot.
People who complain that rifled slugs foul a rifled barrel must be a lot tougher than I am. After 5 or 6 shots with a 3" slug I have had enough. When I clean my barrel there are no signs of fouling. You might see some fouling after 50 or 60 rounds and trip to the Dr to get your shoulder relocated.

foghornl
January 16, 2013, 08:10 AM
Just be SURE that you have a tube in the gun. Shooting Budd of mine found out the hard way that a plain lead slug WILL ruin the threads....

old fart
January 16, 2013, 09:41 AM
before i spend the money on a barrel mount and some sort of sighting system, i wish i knew if it would work. the barrel mount will have to be in front of the forarm as this is a single shot. i'm thinking a small holographic sight of some kind. any idea's? thanks

Crowcifier666
January 16, 2013, 09:45 PM
I've got my eyes on a burris fast fire III. they make a shotgun mount for it, too. A little pricey; but after my first burris, I think they are worth the money.

XTrooper
January 17, 2013, 05:53 AM
I've got my eyes on a burris fast fire III. they make a shotgun mount for it, too. A little pricey; but after my first burris, I think they are worth the money.
I have Burris FastFire III optics on all three of my tactical shotguns (Benelli M4, Mossberg 930 SPX, Remington 870). They work great and have held up well to the recoil of LOTS of shooting.

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