Any Walther P99 full or compact QA owners?


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Glockedout17
November 24, 2012, 03:53 PM
I see so many Walther P99 AS owners and was just wondering where all the P99 QA owners are hiding. I recently acquired a Walther P99c QA in a trade deal and shot it last week for the first time, I ran 110 flawless rounds through it. I read about how awful the trigger was and let me say that I think those people were over exaggerating. The trigger is not bad at all, it is very smooth and breaks fairly clean. All in all I think that the Walther P99c QA is a keeper. Where are the P99 QA owners? I would like to read some of your experiences and gain some info from you guys.

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ExTank
November 25, 2012, 12:41 AM
With Walther's comparatively small market presence (compared to Glock, Sig, and Taurus), good luck finding another High Roader with a QA; I'm sure that there's at least one or two out there, though.

I have the AS and PPQ versions. I've shot various range-rental Glocks and Sigs, and I think that, while pretty decent guns in and of themselves, they blow chunks compared to the Walthers for ergos and triggers.

Just my 0.02c.

cdsdss
November 25, 2012, 02:42 AM
I've been a fan of Walther's (non-Umarex) pistols since I bought my P99AS in 2006. The P99, PPS and PPQ are tack-drivers. My biggest problem has been deciding which one I like best.

777TRUTH
November 25, 2012, 06:58 AM
Agreed, the QA trigger being awful is grossly over exaggerated. The criticism mainly comes from Walther owners who favor the AS trigger and not QA owners or fans of the DAO trigger system.

Count me as a fan of both the QA and PPS.

usp9
November 25, 2012, 10:48 AM
Here's mine. The Quick Action trigger is just that IMHO... very fast and easy to shoot. The one and only foible I've ever been able to criticize the P99c for is that the shape of the mag base makes reloading a balancing act. Other than that it is an outstanding CCW.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Gone/waltherP99c002-1.jpg

I love that "old style" TAP ammo.

Storm
November 25, 2012, 02:07 PM
I have a full size AS and compact QA. I agree that the QA trigger isn't as bad as what is often said, but, it can easily be improved. The factory striker spring which gives you an eight pound pull is replaced with a factory Glock 5.5 pound spring. The pull comes down to around six pounds and is more crisp with less creep. Reliability is 100%. The Lone Wolf four pound spring has been reported to result in some light primer strikes depending on ammo. For a full discussion and instructions on changing the spring go to the Walther Forum and look under the P99 FAQ. The spring swap takes about five minutes. Just did one yesterday for a buddy.

Ehtereon11B
November 25, 2012, 04:10 PM
I have shot both the AS and QA triggers and I am not too fond of the QA. Still would rather have a QA trigger than a Glock though.

Glockedout17
November 25, 2012, 06:06 PM
I have a full size AS and compact QA. I agree that the QA trigger isn't as bad as what is often said, but, it can easily be improved. The factory striker spring which gives you an eight pound pull is replaced with a factory Glock 5.5 pound spring. The pull comes down to around six pounds and is more crisp with less creep. Reliability is 100%. The Lone Wolf four pound spring has been reported to result in some light primer strikes depending on ammo. For a full discussion and instructions on changing the spring go to the Walther Forum and look under the P99 FAQ. The spring swap takes about five minutes. Just did one yesterday for a buddy.
Good to see that there is a few of us. How do you guys feel about the QA models being discontinued? I am actually a member on Walther forums and coincidentally read that sticky last night on the spring swap.

Glockedout17
November 25, 2012, 06:11 PM
Also if you guys are looking for an affordable holster for your P99's check out Shepherd holsters, here's mine:

777TRUTH
November 26, 2012, 04:15 AM
Glockedout17: How do you guys feel about the QA models being discontinued?

The QA was discontinued for the "superior" PPQ. Having never shot the PPQ it's hard for me to say if I like or dislike the trigger.

I'm holding out for a PPQ compact before I try one.

Fishbed77
November 26, 2012, 12:14 PM
Agreed, the QA trigger being awful is grossly over exaggerated. The criticism mainly comes from Walther owners who favor the AS trigger and not QA owners or fans of the DAO trigger system.


Bingo.

The QA trigger is cettainly no worse than a Glock trigger. It's a bit heavier, but much smoother.

That said, I own a full-size P99AS, and would never trade it for a P99QA. The QA trigger is OK for what it is, but the AS trigger is simply sublime.

Glockedout17
November 26, 2012, 02:10 PM
I wouldn't say that the PPQ is superior, it is nice, but it's just an upgraded P99 with more bells and whistle. For a combat weapon, bells and whistles mean nothing. Thats why so many people are hesitant to drink the PPQ kool-aid.

Fishbed77
November 26, 2012, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't say that the PPQ is superior, it is nice, but it's just an upgraded P99 with more bells and whistle. For a combat weapon, bells and whistles mean nothing. Thats why so many people are hesitant to drink the PPQ kool-aid.

The PPQ isn't really an "upgraded P99 with more bells and whistles". It's just a P99 with a different trigger group, revised accessory rail design, and milldly revised aesthetics. The PPQ has been sold for a number of years on the European LE/military market as the P99RAD or P99Q.

That said, the PPQ trigger design is similar to the P99QA, but is markedly better in feel (smoother, lighter, and crisper) with a much shorter reset. I can understand why Walther discontinued the P99QA in favor of the PPQ in the US commercial market.

Walther has stated that they can restart P99QA production at any time for LE contracts (as they have done with the P99DAO, which has long been absent from the US market). They have no intention of discontinuing the DA/SA P99AS in the foreseeable future.

As far as the "kool-aid" comment goes regarding the PPQ, I'm not really sure what to make of that. The PPQ certainly seems to be a popular seller for Walther, and everyone that owns one seems to love them. They ARE quality pistols based on a well-proven and uber-reliable design, and I wouldn't hesitate to say that they are probably the best pistols with a "Glock-style" trigger available on the US market today (at least the 9mm versions).

That said, I don't plan on trading my P99AS for a PPQ anytime soon.

Glockedout17
November 26, 2012, 09:08 PM
The PPQ isn't really an "upgraded P99 with more bells and whistles". It's just a P99 with a different trigger group, revised accessory rail design, and milldly revised aesthetics. The PPQ has been sold for a number of years on the European LE/military market as the P99RAD or P99Q.

That said, the PPQ trigger design is similar to the P99QA, but is markedly better in feel (smoother, lighter, and crisper) with a much shorter reset. I can understand why Walther discontinued the P99QA in favor of the PPQ in the US commercial market.

Walther has stated that they can restart P99QA production at any time for LE contracts (as they have done with the P99DAO, which has long been absent from the US market). They have no intention of discontinuing the DA/SA P99AS in the foreseeable future.

As far as the "kool-aid" comment goes regarding the PPQ, I'm not really sure what to make of that. The PPQ certainly seems to be a popular seller for Walther, and everyone that owns one seems to love them. They ARE quality pistols based on a well-proven and uber-reliable design, and I wouldn't hesitate to say that they are probably the best pistols with a "Glock-style" trigger available on the US market today (at least the 9mm versions).

That said, I don't plan on trading my P99AS for a PPQ anytime soon.
Understood. Same here, I won't be trading in my P99 QA for one either, but I do see one in my future. It's needed to complete my Walther collection. Thanks for your input

Fishbed77
November 27, 2012, 12:18 PM
Same here, I won't be trading in my P99 QA for one either, but I do see one in my future.

I wouldn't either. I know this is totally subjective, but there is a certain "classiness" to the P99 that the ugly PPQ can't match. :cool:

Ehtereon11B
November 27, 2012, 08:04 PM
but there is a certain "classiness" to the P99 that the ugly PPQ can't match.

Very true. When I picked out my Walther I mumbled to myself "Ah the new Walther, I asked Q to get me one of these."

The newer Walthers such as the PPQ and PPS seem like S&W trying to copy Glock closer and closer using the Walther banner.

Glockedout17
November 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Very true. When I picked out my Walther I mumbled to myself "Ah the new Walther, I asked Q to get me one of these."

The newer Walthers such as the PPQ and PPS seem like S&W trying to copy Glock closer and closer using the Walther banner.
Lol, it is definitely a very classy pistol, especially with a suppressor on. Makes me feel like 007 himself.

Storm
November 28, 2012, 11:36 PM
I have always thought that had the compact 99 existed when Bond went to the P99 the compact would have been the obvious choice.

Glockedout17
November 29, 2012, 10:45 AM
I have always thought that had the compact 99 existed when Bond went to the P99 the compact would have been the obvious choice.
Agreed

Fixed Sight Training
November 29, 2012, 12:41 PM
The SA is the only plastic centerfire I have considered getting. Unfortunatley the one I had a chance to buy for a good price was in .40 and I don't really want a .40. I have .45s and 9s and don't need another caliber auto.

Fishbed77
November 29, 2012, 03:15 PM
Unfortunatley the one I had a chance to buy for a good price was in .40 and I don't really want a .40.

I agree. The P99/PPQ really shines in 9mm. In my opinion, it is the best polymer double-stack 9mm design on the market today.

But in .40S&W, it's just average in my opinion. It's still a fantastic pistol, but it loses something in translation. The P99/PPQ is just a tad too light and too top-heavy to be the perfect .40S&W pistol.

Glockedout17
November 29, 2012, 11:12 PM
If i'm not mistaken, most polymer semi auto pistols back then were built on a 9mm frame and then later on adapting the heavier calibers after proven that the design was reliable with the 9mm. Ex: Glock, S&W autoloader, Walther P99

Storm
November 30, 2012, 12:30 PM
That is true that most of the polymers were developed initially based on the 9mm. There are two notable exceptions, the HK USP and Steyr M/S both built for the 40.

I have had P99 in 40 and I shot well with them, but for me the 9mm just shoots so much better.

Ehtereon11B
December 1, 2012, 07:36 AM
AND the Springfield XD .40...when it comes out. They plan on starting out with a frame to handle 45 and scale down to .40 and 9mm.

Glockedout17
December 1, 2012, 12:17 PM
AND the Springfield XD .40...when it comes out. They plan on starting out with a frame to handle 45 and scale down to .40 and 9mm.
That's what all manufacturers should do. The stress from a .40 on a frame meant for 9mm could be very unforgiving.

jyo
December 2, 2012, 07:56 AM
I am feeling the pull of a 9mm PPQ---don't know if its gonna happen yet---but I also own a S&W/Walther SW99 in 45 ACP---does that count?

Glockedout17
December 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
From what I see on Walther forums, the SW99 is a well respected gun. Nothing beats the real deal though, but all in all it's still a good gun.

bill123
December 2, 2012, 01:03 PM
I have both full and compact. I like to be able to decock the pistol and leave one in the chamber

Fishbed77
December 3, 2012, 11:15 AM
I also own a S&W/Walther SW99 in 45 ACP---does that count?

That's a pistol I'd like to hear more about. I've never actually seen one in the wild.

Glockedout17
December 4, 2012, 04:20 PM
That's a pistol I'd like to hear more about. I've never actually seen one in the wild.
The SW99 has a large following, should be tons of info on the internet.

Fishbed77
December 4, 2012, 06:55 PM
The SW99 has a large following, should be tons of info on the internet.

I'm referring to the .45ACP version specifically. Seen plenty of 9mm/.40S&W versions of the SW99 before.

Glockedout17
December 4, 2012, 09:10 PM
Oh, I didn't catch the .45 part, I think smith-wesson forums would have some info. That's if they exist, lol.

ExTank
December 9, 2012, 01:03 AM
I picked up a P99AS in .40 at Cabela's earlier this year (since my 9mm P99AS is such a sweet shooter, I thought it would be fairly manageable in .40 as well), and I'm not particularly thrilled with it; the recoil is excessive, and I'm saying this as a regular, proficient 1911 .45ACP shooter, and I keep hitting the mag release no matter how I try to grip it.

But in 9mm, I think the P-series is on my short list of favorites.

Ehtereon11B
December 9, 2012, 07:42 AM
I picked up a P99AS in .40 at Cabela's earlier this year (since my 9mm P99AS is such a sweet shooter, I thought it would be fairly manageable in .40 as well), and I'm not particularly thrilled with it; the recoil is excessive, and I'm saying this as a regular, proficient 1911 .45ACP shooter, and I keep hitting the mag release no matter how I try to grip it.

There are a couple things I did with my Walther to make it a much easier carry piece with recoil management. First, spend the extra time/money getting 155-165 grain HPs instead of 180. It severely reduces the muzzle climb.

The P99 comes with the medium grip panel installed. Try the other two to see if it becomes more comfortable. All you need is a 1/8" straight wall punch and a hammer to knock out the pin at the bottom next to the logo. I would recommend trying the large grip since that will get your fingers farther from the mag catch.

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