kel tec sub 2000


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fishblade2
November 25, 2012, 11:04 PM
Hey guys,

I own a sub 2000 but i want to place a red dot or reflex on this gun. The kel tec rail system is sold out on their website and I know that for them to get it back in will probably take forever... is there anywhere that sells either the kel tec brand rail system for this gun or another brand that is the same in configuration?

The other concern I have is what optic. I want a red dot on it but what mount should I buy that will allow the optic to either align or clear the regular sights on the gun (i prefer it to align with the rail sights on the gun). I am new to reflex and red dot sights (I don't know good brands and I don't even know the difference between the two). I am not familiar with mounts for optics either. Any advice on ones to look into that would work for this gun would be much obliged.

Thank you for your help

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primalmu
November 25, 2012, 11:13 PM
Check OpticsPlanet.com.

backbencher
November 25, 2012, 11:57 PM
http://www.redlionprecision.com/

A rotating rail, so can you can still fold the little sucker up : )

If you do stumble into a fixed rail, you might try mounting your red dot on the non-dominant hand side rail, sideways. You'll just have to remember some additional leads out past your zero.

dickz
November 26, 2012, 07:58 AM
http://www.thektog.org/forum/

Try this and look at pages and pages of tricked out subbys.

psyopspec
November 27, 2012, 02:04 PM
Red dot sight - Reticle is a red dot. In the military, the issue red dot sights are short, unmagnified scopes.

Reflex sight - Can have a variety of reticles including a red dot, cross hair, donut, etc. The main difference is that the piece of equipment is not housed in a cylindrical scope, but rather displayed on something close to a flat panel.

Either would likely serve most shooters just fine. Personally, if going for unmagnified optics I would take a reflex sight for a wider field of view and a slight, slight edge to shooting with both eyes open, although both will allow this without difficulty.

Eotech reflex sights are issued in the military. The red dots are Aimpoint CCOs. Both were durable pieces of equipment with a long battery life. You likely won't need something that expensive, though I have no experience with other brands.

fishblade2
November 27, 2012, 03:13 PM
With the red lion precision rotating rail system, do you have any experience with it because I want to make sure it won't try to rotate on me while shooting or over time loosen up from recoil.

And yes those ecotech and aimpoint sights are way to overpriced for me at the moment. What are some really good red dots sights that are in the cheaper price range? Also what makes these brands more expensive than others?

psyopspec
November 27, 2012, 08:39 PM
And yes those ecotech and aimpoint sights are way to overpriced for me at the moment. What are some really good red dots sights that are in the cheaper price range? Also what makes these brands more expensive than others?

They're both durable pieces that stand up to a lot. They're impervious to heat, cold, sand, water (including ice/snow), and have anti-glare/anti-fog glass. With either, you could activate and turn the brightness to maximum and it would still be on a month later. They hold zero very well through repeating mountings. If you buy one, you're generally getting your money's worth, though some of that money is paying for the privilege of owning what Uncle Sam issues.

The only other red dot I have experience with was a Truglo I bought on sale to try out on an AR. I believe I only forked over $40 for it. I used it for plinking at ranges of 100 yards or less and to introduce new shooters to that type of rifle. It worked well for both purposes, and I later gave it away when I'd gotten something else and a friend wanted it. It likely could have worked at longer ranges too, though I never tried any serious grouping with it after the initial zero. One thing to caution you on if you go that route is that taking the optic off and then remounting it required some adjusting to get the zero back.

ETA: Found a link for the Truglo I mentioned. (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4018614)

tuj
November 27, 2012, 09:19 PM
If you want a quality, affordable red dot, the buck stops with Ultradots.

http://renkucorp.com/jf/pics/guns/IMG_20121006_101836_sm.jpg

fishblade2
November 29, 2012, 04:25 PM
not to get off topic but what are those oversize wooden grips for?

tuj
November 29, 2012, 04:36 PM
what are those oversize wooden grips for?

Bullseye (aka NRA conventional pistol), which is shot off-hand (one-handed).

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