Gold Cup Trophy accuracy at 50 yards?


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Mr. Doughnut
November 27, 2012, 06:20 PM
Looking for a 50-yard plinker in .45ACP.

What is the inherent accuracy potential (i.e., capable from a machine rest) of a new box-stock Colt Gold Cup Trophy at 50 yards?

BTW, this is not for formal competition, just plinking at 50 yards.

When it comes to 1911s, I like Colts, but I'm not locked into the brand. Is there anything else in the Trophy's price range ($1K, roughly) that's worth looking at?

I want to stick to a 1911 platform.

My budget is $1,100.

Thanks.

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rcmodel
November 27, 2012, 06:30 PM
The 50 yard NRA bullseye target has 10-ring 3.3 inches in diameter.
Inside of the 3.3-inch 10-ring is a 1.7-inch X-ring used to break ties.

A match gun would have to be able to stay well inside the 10-ring to even be considered competitave.

I shot with a guy a couple of years ago who was using a Kimber Gold Match and it was one accurate pistol for sure!

The Springfield Trophy Match is also very good.

The Springfield Range Officer also seems to have a lot of glowing reports, and it's price isn't half bad.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/springfield-range-officer-review/

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=70940

rc

el Godfather
November 27, 2012, 06:43 PM
Gold Cup is great pistol.

Have you also looked at H&K Mk23?

Mr. Doughnut
November 27, 2012, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I can see how true competition guns can get very pricey.

I'm just in this for the fun.

My standard: Shooting offhand, I'd like to be able to hit clay pigeons that are sitting in the 50 yard berm.

Haven't considered the HK Mk23, as I'm already familiar with 1911s. I've handled a couple of HKs over the years at my LGS. They strike me as being a little chunky.

Mr. Doughnut

creeper1956
November 27, 2012, 09:47 PM
My standard: Shooting offhand, I'd like to be able to hit clay pigeons that are sitting in the 50 yard berm.
One of the new Gold Cup Trophy or National Match models will do that all day, right out of the box. For that matter, your typical XSE model will do it too.

el Godfather
November 28, 2012, 12:13 AM
Ok. Well since we are talking about 1911, how would gold cup hold up to a dan wesson valor . Price is about the same, but in my opinion you get more out of box with DW.

creeper1956
November 28, 2012, 12:35 AM
how would gold cup hold up to a dan wesson valorThe DWs are pretty nice. There's a certain level of "trading on the brand name" with Colt... that's what happens when you've been doing 1911s for over 100 years. It's not a bad thing, but for a number of years, Colt's reputation was in the toilet and the hit and miss reputation was well deserved.
The current Colts are excellent and I'd not be the slightest bit concerned with quality, but I think you pay a small premium for the name... and this is from a guy who is a well known "Coltista". :D

psyopspec
November 28, 2012, 12:40 AM
My standard: Shooting offhand, I'd like to be able to hit clay pigeons that are sitting in the 50 yard berm.

Any modern production handgun from a reputable company should fit the bill. Go for whatever you like. A Colt would be a fine choice, as would many others.

Dlowe167
November 28, 2012, 12:42 AM
Ive shot a Dan Wesson CCO,enjoy it alot. Seen them around $1100 on Cheaperthandirt.com .But id like too try a Colt.

rcmodel
November 28, 2012, 12:51 AM
but I think you pay a small premium for the name... and this is from a guy who is a well known "Coltista".Yes, but you also get it all back in spades if you ever decide to sell it.

rc

creeper1956
November 28, 2012, 01:08 AM
Yes, but you also get it all back in spades if you ever decide to sell it.
I've owned a good number of Colts in the 40 years I've been shooting 1911s, in fact, with the exception of a Randall "Portsider" and a Springfield Omega, they've all been Colts. Almost any time I've put one of them up for sale, especially the older pre-war and 1948-1968 guns, they sell the same day for full price and sometimes more than what I ask... so that is definitely a true statement. :D

Shoot66
November 28, 2012, 08:30 AM
The reports say the Valor can do it. Not in my hands though. Most of my plinking is done at 54 yards (50 m) at clays or 4 in steel. I can do it just fine with my SIG P210, I just canīt with my Valor. I am not saying itīs the Valorīs fault.

tuj
November 28, 2012, 10:12 AM
previous poster was right, a gold cup at 50 should be able to hold the 10-ring on a bullseye target from a rest.

A worked-over gold cup should be able to hold the X ring (1.5") for 10 shots of tuned loads or premium match ammo from a rest. That's the standard in bullseye guns. Les Baer will build you a gun that guarentees this, as will many other phenomenal bullseye smiths.

WC145
November 28, 2012, 12:58 PM
Find yourself a nice used hardball gun, they're set up for that type of shooting and you can find them on gunbroker from time to time. They're fun to shoot, have a lot of character, and even an older one will still be plenty accurate.

Mr. Doughnut
November 28, 2012, 10:38 PM
Thanks to everyone for their observations and input.

I ended up rolling the dice on a new Sig 1911 stainless rail. (I don't need the rail, but the price was right and I really like the fit and finish.)

After comparing the Gold Cup Trophy (stainless) with the Sig at my LGS, I had a much better gut feeling about the Sig. Simple as that.

I'll let you know how it works out!

el Godfather
November 29, 2012, 02:38 PM
Good luck.
Although, I dont believe Sig Sauer 1911 measures up to Colt GC.

Fishbed77
November 29, 2012, 06:17 PM
I have a Colt XSE that could could hit clay pigeons at 50 yards all day long, provided I do my part. The barrel is not marked "NM" (National Match) on the XSE like the Gold Cup, but dang if I can tell any difference (other than the different feed ramp design).

That said, I'm considering a Springfield Range Officer for my next "target" 1911. From all I hear, the RO is every bit as accurate as a Colt Gold Cup. Sure, it doesn't look as nice, but it's also about $350 cheaper (that's a lot of ammo, or another gun!), and you can find them just about anywhere (it took me almost 18 months to find my Colt XSE).

Mike OTDP
November 29, 2012, 10:11 PM
WC145 is right. Look for a bullseye-tuned 1911.

MICHAEL T
December 1, 2012, 01:59 AM
Well when you trade the Sig in for that Colt Gold Cup. I hope you don't loose to much:rolleyes:

psyopspec
December 1, 2012, 03:38 AM
Congrats on finding a 1911 to fill the bill. Looking forward to the range report.

jimherb
December 1, 2012, 03:39 PM
This is a joke, right?

Mr. Doughnut
December 1, 2012, 07:16 PM
jimherb,

A joke? Please explain. I'll clear it up if I can.

MD

VAgunner
December 1, 2012, 07:19 PM
jimherb,

A joke? Please explain. I'll clear it up if I can.

MD
Good luck with the new gun. Sig 1911s are not my think but if you like it that is all that matters. It should serve your purpose. It should be built well enough to do its part if you can do yours at 50 yards. Personally I would have bought the Dan Wesson Heritage, Colt or ST Spartan in that order. YMMV

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