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kbbailey
November 28, 2012, 02:23 PM
What do you think is the most under-rated revolver on the market??
Name the gun; describe why you think others that are looking to buy, should consider purchasing one.

I'll start.....
The NAA Mini-revolvers are very well made, reasonably accurate, easily concealed, and the .22mag versions are potent. The .22lr cylinder allows for cheap plinking/practice. Ammo is available anywhere. This thing does disappear in about any pocket.
http://http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/317318000/317318522/pix639200295.jpg

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Cosmoline
November 28, 2012, 02:29 PM
I'm really really liking the new post '05 Vaquero. It's truly an improved SAA. Very well made and dead accurate with the fixed sights. I picked up one in .45 Colt with the .45 ACP cylinder and both cylinders will shoot 2" 15 yard groups to the same point of aim.

But there still seems to be confusion about them and I don't see them very often. The older big Vaqueros are far more common.

LordDunsany
November 28, 2012, 02:49 PM
Beat me to it Cosmoline.

I have a pair of New Vaqueros in .357 and .45LC. Each shoot to point of aim with factory ammo using a two-hand grip, and are exceedingly accurate with my hand loads.

My .45 loads are on the light side (7.8gr Unique, 255gr cast round nose) but will bust a hog nicely. I want to use the .357 on a deer but won't get a chance till next year.

Both of these are my first choices for camping, woods walking and generally trekking around in the hills. Most folks consider these guns to be made for playing cowboy with powder puff loadings. Not the case at all. The .357 will handle any 'legal' loading without a whimper, and the curved grip takes out the sting of recoil. The .45, at any reasonable load, packs a powerful punch and works well for both hunting and defense.

I prefer the ergonomics of the New Vaquero to the more popular Blackhawk, and do not find the fixed sights to be a handicap at the ranges I shoot.

Ron in Texas

beatledog7
November 28, 2012, 03:11 PM
Does it have to be still on the new gun market? Does it have to be a secret?

I doubt if there is a revolver currently for sale and realistically available that is anywhere near a secret. As for underrated, I think when one considers the amount of love S&Ws get, Rugers generally are underrated.

AABEN
November 28, 2012, 04:17 PM
The Dan Wesson was the one! You could buy one gun and have an 2in 4in 6in 8in 10in 15in barrel for the one gun that you could change in about 5mins.

kbbailey
November 28, 2012, 04:44 PM
Does it have to be still on the new gun market? Does it have to be a secret?

How about anything that can still found on Gunbroker or etc.

Secret???? Nah, no secrets on THR. I was just looking for commonly overlooked specimens that YOU really like.

gazpacho
November 28, 2012, 04:45 PM
I know I'm going to draw some flames for this one but . . .

The Taurus Model 85 series of revolvers. I have 2, an 85 and an 850 (concealed hammer). Then have an excellent trigger, good accuracy and a low price. The "safety lock" is unobtrusive, and easy to remove. They have been flawless for me.

snooperman
November 28, 2012, 04:49 PM
Also include me in the Ruger New Vaquero crowd. Well balanced , accurate , reasonably priced and a great platform for later custom work.

shafter
November 28, 2012, 05:16 PM
Smith and Wesson Model 10 . . .but I don't think it's a secret anymore.

SharpsDressedMan
November 28, 2012, 05:32 PM
I discovered some time ago that old S&W 2nd Model Hand Ejectors in .455 British Eley were quite often rechambered for our .45 Colt cartridge. This required little change, barely visible, and resulted in finely crafted revolvers that sell for WAY less than they should (potential buyers avoid them because they think they need hard to get ammo), and the resulting revolvers are light, perfectly functional, an extremely accurate (the bore is perfectly suited to the .45 Colt). I have two, and got them for about half of what they would go for if people knew how good they are. My only change was cutting the barrels to 4" and having ramp sights installed.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC06058.jpg

CraigC
November 28, 2012, 06:02 PM
Since Al Gore invented the internet, I think most of the secrets have been spoiled. Used to be you could get Old Model Ruger Blackhawks and Single Sixes real cheap. Used to be that you could get the old Six series DA's real cheap. Used to be that you could get surplus Mausers real cheap. Used to be you could get S&W 28's and .38-44 pretty reasonably. Hell, everything used to be cheaper and easier to find. Only 15yrs ago I bought both a model 18 and a 6" model 17 for $200 and $265 respectively. Only 13yrs ago I walked into a shop that had a bunch of new-old-stock S&W's and Rugers from the `70's and bought a brand new model 14 for $285. He had brand new model 19's for well under $400. Bunch of Security and Speed Sixes for under $300. Brand new Blackhawks for $300-$350. Unfortunately, I wasn't in the financial position to buy a bunch of what he had. Try finding deals like that today. Nowadays everybody either knows exactly what they have and they want a premium for it or they 'think' they have something high dollar and want a premium anyway. Trying to get rich off every sale.

adelbridge
November 28, 2012, 06:07 PM
Ruger GP100 6" stainless. Tack drivingest revolver I ever owned. Paid $375 for it back in 1998. Trigger is not as good as smith or colt but never affected accuracy. I can shoot poker chips at 30 yards.

vicdotcom
November 28, 2012, 06:13 PM
Medusa model 47. Shhhh.... still looking for one.

bozzman3
November 28, 2012, 06:15 PM
http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy59/BOZZMAN3/2012-11-26_17-28-32_463.jpg

Model 19

USSR
November 28, 2012, 06:23 PM
Smith & Wesson 25-5. Bought mine, which was in near Mint condition, 2 years ago for $500. Now the 686 gets little use.

Don

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357 Terms
November 28, 2012, 07:01 PM
I agree with CraigC, the Six series Rugers were available at great prices everywhere 20 years ago, not anymore.

I wish I had used my money wiser when I was young, but then again, I did have fun.

Still, a collection of "Sixes" would be great today, certainly if I had less than $200 into each one.

kbbailey
November 28, 2012, 07:07 PM
I'll add another sleeper:
I am known to have a weakness for black powder guns. About three yrs ago, I bought a used Uberti made Remingon New Model Army 1858. This gun opened an entirely new door into the shooting world. I learned about cap'n ball loads, wads, caps, molds, stands, holsters, lube, etc. This led me to buy a 5 1/2" barrel Remington '58 from Cabelas for a mere $179.00. This gun has delivered as much enjoyment and satisfaction as any in my humble collection. I am proud to have won some NMLRA Territorial medals with these guns.
To anyone who has grown somewhat bored with cartridge guns: You can get set up in black powder for minimum $$ and expect to have maximum fun, while broadening your shooting knowledge.

beag_nut
November 28, 2012, 07:22 PM
Ruger GP100 6" stainless. Tack drivingest revolver I ever owned. Paid $375 for it back in 1998. Trigger is not as good as smith or colt but never affected accuracy. I can shoot poker chips at 30 yards.
Amen! Though mine is the blued version.

Kymasabe
November 28, 2012, 07:23 PM
I'm pretty impressed with some old Charter Arms Undercover .38's I've discovered recently. Bought a 1980 and 1978 2" .38 in the last two days and waiting a few days to save anotehr couple hundred bucks to get the 3" barreled one I saw.

hAkron
November 28, 2012, 07:27 PM
Dan Wesson for sure. Why their amazing, forward thinking designs were never wildly successful is a true mystery.

RevolvingGarbage
November 28, 2012, 07:35 PM
I got a used and abused Taurus model 82 a while back for $125. It was mechanically perfect, but all the blue had been stripped off. One $40 refinish later, and it looked excellent and shot better.

Recently these have been imported from south America where they were used often as police service revolvers, much like our Model 10's. These can be found for $200 or so if you look around a little.

wlewisiii
November 28, 2012, 08:06 PM
Armored car company trade in S&W Model 64's. The ultimate "carried lots, fired never" that I've run into. I'd love to find another one.

Blue Brick
November 28, 2012, 08:17 PM
Armored car company trade in S&W Model 64's. The ultimate "carried lots, fired never" that I've run into. I'd love to find another one.

Lots of them were at JGsales

Arp32
November 28, 2012, 08:19 PM
I second the trade-in model 64s. Picked mine up at J&G a year or two ago, and although it's the most inexpensive handgun I own, it would probably be the last one I'd trade away.

Mine was carried a lot, and probably fired/dry-fired a lot, too, judging by the smooth action.

(Edit: I guess I "third" the M64...)

Kiln
November 28, 2012, 08:26 PM
Rossi revolvers of all sorts. They're cheap and a lot better than people give them credit for.

bikerdoc
November 28, 2012, 08:49 PM
Any Ruger security six.

murf
November 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
ruger's kit gun, the bearcat. weighs less than a pound, looks and feels like an old-time six-shooter and (mine) is very accurate.

murf

HDCamel
November 28, 2012, 11:19 PM
Dan Wesson.
I say "Dan Wesson" and people will try to correct me with "Smith & Wesson".

Queen_of_Thunder
November 28, 2012, 11:40 PM
Two that don't get any respect is the Colt Trooper and the Colt Lawman III.

R.W.Dale
November 28, 2012, 11:44 PM
The 9mm Taurus 905

Cheap to shoot, cheap to own powerful, and surprisingly well made.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/2012-04-12114158.jpg


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bannockburn
November 29, 2012, 06:37 AM
I would have to say back in the pre-Internet days, the Ruger Six Series was probably the best kept secret of the revolver world.

Lucky Derby
November 29, 2012, 07:16 AM
Colt Trooper .357.
Same gun as the Python, without the full lug/vent rib barrel or the high polish blue. They sell for a fraction of what a Python would go for.

hAkron
November 29, 2012, 07:32 AM
They sell for a fraction of what a Python would go for.

That 'fraction' seems to be 7/8 from what I've seen lately. Colt prices are wacky and people are cashing in.

valnar
November 29, 2012, 08:35 AM
I don't own any non-Smith revolvers except one - my Ruger New Vaquero in stainless.

Charger442
November 29, 2012, 08:47 AM
Rossi revolvers of all sorts. They're cheap and a lot better than people give them credit for.

This. my personal favorite is the 951. great gun.

Onward Allusion
November 29, 2012, 08:56 AM
+1 on the Rossi revolvers.

snakeman
November 29, 2012, 10:43 AM
+1 on rossi revolvers from me too.

content
November 29, 2012, 11:07 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // My sub $300.00, S&W 65-3, 4", .357 police trade ,purchased last year,has a scuffed side plate but the edges of the trigger and hammer were still factory sharp.
The grips were nothing to brag about but it goes bang every time and shoots where it is pointed.

I say the 1905 4th change and other S&W .38s can still be found at more than reasonable prices in VG condition. IMHO..38 is a great round.

No doubt, the most under estimated has been the Dan Wesson followed closely by the Ruger Six series but they are going up fast.

If you are willing to put up with some wear and tear marks the possibilities are endless.
Most are cosmetic or easily repaired.
Many folks, including me, have done something to accidently "enhance" the finish.

Good luck with the search.

MCgunner
November 29, 2012, 11:19 AM
My bargains can be other people's "junk". A case in point, a little Rossi M68 3" 38 special, well made, well finished, shoots POA 2" groups at 25 yards off the bench. I bought it in 1981 for my step dad and later inherited it. I don't carry it, much, but it is a very reliable/accurate little gun that cost me a hundred bucks when I bought it. Of course, back then, a M10 Smith was only a couple hundred and didn't have a Hillary hole. :D The little Rossi compares well to any M36 Smith I've ever shot or handled.

I agree with you on the NAAs, but then, they're not really a secret, are they? :D I carry my .22LR as a back up everywhere all the time. My Black Widow in .22 mag is my "church gun" for Sunday lunch after church, small, undetectable, but adequate protection in a pinch. Weekly, normally, I have my little 9 or my .38 ultralite snub for a primary.

Paul7
November 29, 2012, 02:12 PM
Colt Trooper .357.
Same gun as the Python, without the full lug/vent rib barrel or the high polish blue. They sell for a fraction of what a Python would go for.
+1 on old Troopers. I got one for $350 not too long ago, the seller said the trigger and action was as good as his Pythons, I believe it. A way better gun than the Security Six that some like here, it's skinny grip was brutal to shoot in .357.

I really like my Uberti SAA .45 in Old West finish, another 'cheap' handgun that isn't supposed to be good, but is.

minutemen1776
November 29, 2012, 02:23 PM
The Taurus Model 85 series of revolvers. I have 2, an 85 and an 850 (concealed hammer). Then have an excellent trigger, good accuracy and a low price.

You should play the lottery. I gave up on the Taurus 85 after owning four of them. They had a low price, but none of them ever had what I'd call an excellent trigger or good accuracy.

silicosys4
November 29, 2012, 04:25 PM
Old PPC revolvers.

$356 at auction.

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/623/11215244/img_0946.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg

Another great company that went out of business, but made excellent firearms that can still be had for cheap
$255 at auction, tightest revolver I've got, bluing and polish quality is equal or better than my colt diamondback, quality exceeds my rugers.

U.S. Arms Co.
http://pictures.gunauction.com/1097/mvc-002l.jpg

Elkins45
November 29, 2012, 06:15 PM
Security Sixes are usually better guns than their prices indicate.

The S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman used to be a secret bargain, but those days have long since passed with the premium being placed on guns without a Hillary Hole.

The Herters SA guns (made by Sauer in W. Germany) are well made and often quite reasonably priced.

Greg Corcoran
November 29, 2012, 07:58 PM
I have to agree with whoever pisted mod 10 S&W , under 300.00 all day long , how can you go wrong .

Guillermo
November 29, 2012, 08:04 PM
As mentioned, an old prelock, preMIM, one piece barrel model 10 is an amazing gun value.

But it is not a secret

rswartsell
November 29, 2012, 08:33 PM
I think I have to go with the Dan Wesson. 15-2 for me. The Colt revolvers of all descriptions are now officially discovered. The classic Smiths are heading that way fast. Putting a little work into cleaning up a DW taught me that they are likely next. I believe that there are some decent Tauri out there, know the old Charters are good values too if you avoid the "bad" years, but neither can rise to the quality for price of a Dan Wesson.

Next in line for "don't make 'em like that anymore" inflation in the quality revolver world.

Guillermo
November 29, 2012, 09:14 PM
Dan Wesson made some high quality revolvers but the following has grown...no longer a secret.

More of a misunderstood cult

Hoppes Love Potion
November 29, 2012, 09:42 PM
I would agree that the NAA .22 Magnum minis are a viable deep cover option, well-made and priced right.

I agree that the used S&W Model 10 and Model 64 are probably the best overall quality-to-price value in revolvers at $300 or less and common enough that good specimens are not hard to find.

I would postulate that the Ruger LCR-22 at around $400 is a viable choice for a .22 revolver that is light, accurate and rugged. Quality .22s are getting expensive whether new or used. Most of the $300 - $400 offerings are a bit rough with extremely heavy triggers. The LCR has a funky unconventional trigger and looks strange, but gets the job done admirably.

Rocketmedic
November 29, 2012, 10:26 PM
RevolvingGarbage was right on target with the Taurus M82s. Mine is accurate and handles 38 Special and +P easily, little recoil and great function.

Mike J
November 29, 2012, 11:46 PM
My vote goes to Dan Wesson also. Even non gun people know Colt, Smith & Wesson, & Ruger. A lot of gun people still aren't aware of the Dan Wessons although that does seem to be changing.

hemiram
November 30, 2012, 06:45 AM
It's got to be Dan Wesson for me too. The prices have crept up from the almost insane $269 I paid for my almost mint Monson 715 6VH in 2006 to my latest 15-2 6VH that isn't anywhere near mint that I paid $370 for in 2010. A friend just bought a nice 715 6VH for $440, so they aren't super cheap anymore.

Lucky Derby
November 30, 2012, 06:50 AM
"That 'fraction' seems to be 7/8 from what I've seen lately. Colt prices are wacky and people are cashing in. "



Paid about $400 for each of mine, both about 95%, within the last three years. During that same time I sold a refinished Python for $1400.

Lucky Derby
November 30, 2012, 06:54 AM
"+1 on old Troopers. I got one for $350 not too long ago, the seller said the trigger and action was as good as his Pythons, I believe it. A way better gun than the Security Six that some like here, it's skinny grip was brutal to shoot in .357"

I have a Speed-Six in addition to my two Troopers. I would say the Ruger is a lot more durable, but the Colts are much smoother.
A Pachmeyer grips helps the Speed-Six a lot.

OilyPablo
November 30, 2012, 07:14 AM
I was going jump in and mention Colt Trooper. Obviously no secret. Prices have climbed a bit, but still a bargain for such a nice gun. I bought a Colt Trooper III from an estate, came with a 6" barrel and an extra 4" barrel. Almost pristine. Beautiful deep bluing. The secret isn't any of that - it's putting in Wolff trigger and hammer springs. Easily one of the sweetest shooting SA/DA revolvers for under $500.

roaddog28
November 30, 2012, 05:21 PM
Any Ruger security six.
+1 on the Ruger Six line. I still believe Rugers best double action revolver.

skidder
November 30, 2012, 07:46 PM
A way better gun than the Security Six that some like here, it's skinny grip was brutal to shoot in .357"

I have a Speed-Six in addition to my two Troopers. I would say the Ruger is a lot more durable, but the Colts are much smoother.

I would say its a tie. They both have their own advantages. The Colt is smoother, but the Ruger is stronger with a smaller frame and cylinder. Accuracy.... they are both tack drivers. The Rugers have a tendency to smooth out over time, where the Colts were just built that way.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/exlogger/Colt/TroopSix2.jpg

Resto Guy
November 30, 2012, 10:40 PM
My 17 year old stainless 851 has always been dependable and deadly accurate. Even though it's not +P rated, it's the one I would grab in a pinch if it was next to my more powerful revolvers.

gp911
November 30, 2012, 11:21 PM
I'll second the Uberti SAAs. I love my Birdshead and would never sell it.

MCgunner
December 1, 2012, 08:56 AM
The Taurus Model 85 series of revolvers. I have 2, an 85 and an 850 (concealed hammer). Then have an excellent trigger, good accuracy and a low price.

Bought my UL in 96. Best out of the box trigger I've ever felt in a DA revolver. Big +1.

I'm going to put in a plug for Pietta. Now, i realize they're cap and ball guns, but I can't resist some of those Cabela's sales. They ARE single action revolvers even if you have to stuff the load into the front. My '58 Remmy 5.5" is quite accurate, shoots to POA, and was $179 from Cabelas on a sale last year. Its timing, lock up are PERFECT, fit and finish is way better than it has any right to be. These guns are amazing. They can be ordered direct to you, no FFL necessary, too. I might even get a .45 ACP conversion cylinder for mine, 240 bucks, but I'll probably just go with a couple of 60 dollar spare cylinders first.

webfox
December 1, 2012, 02:24 PM
Dangit... I've got so many things I should do, but now I'm gonna have to go reload some ammo. Good thing there's no woman and the dog doesn't mind.

Smith357
December 1, 2012, 06:20 PM
Pretty much any .38 special service revolver with holster wear, everyone wants pristine Magnums.

Steve CT
December 1, 2012, 07:34 PM
I'll say Dan Wesson as well. Prices have been pushing up over the past couple of years, but $400 on a 15-2 or 715 is some of the smartest money you can spend.

CraigC
December 1, 2012, 10:08 PM
I don't think the Abilenes, Sevilles and El Dorados are a secret any more either.

weblance
December 2, 2012, 01:11 AM
I thought this thread was about revolvers that were Best Kept Secrets, not stuff like Taurus 85s and Ruger Security Sixes...



The 9mm Taurus 905

Cheap to shoot, cheap to own, powerful, and surprisingly well made.

Now this revolver, I agree with. Not many people consider a 9mm revolver, but its an excellent idea. The cheapest centerfire ammo there is, and excellent performance. My 905 has been an absolute joy. What a great idea... a 9mm revolver. Clearly one of the Best Kept Secrets of the Revolver World.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/weblance/CCWPics009Medium_zps55208c70.jpg

barnbwt
December 2, 2012, 11:30 AM
CZ Revolvers? Because I've only heard of two people owning one? I can't speak to quality, since they're so secret :D

TCB

SharpsDressedMan
December 2, 2012, 03:25 PM
Ever see a Walther marked revolver (made by S&W)?

Alnamvet68
December 2, 2012, 03:41 PM
S&W Model 40/42 Classic...though discontinued after a short run, people are just starting to notice them now.

hAkron
December 2, 2012, 06:45 PM
CZ Revolvers? Because I've only heard of two people owning one? I can't speak to quality, since they're so secret :D

TCB

They are CZ as in "Made in the Czech Republic" not as in "Ceska Zbrojovka a.s., Uhersky Brod", makers fine pistols such as the CZ 75B.

Alfa Proj revolvers are Czech, and are imported by Czechpoint
(http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/revolvers/)

A true CZ revolver would actually be an American Made Dan Wesson, as CZUB owns Dan Wesson Arms.

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