[natedog]

Anyone have any links to funny gun discussions, particuarly on video game or rap music boards? You know ,the kind that just makes you want to smile due to the faulked "expertise", mostly put out by Counter-Strike kids...

[winstonsmith]

Man, I had a discussion with my classmate about guns the other day. I swear to John Moses Browning, every little nugget of knowledge I passed to him was followed by a furrowed brow and a forlorn objection: "But in Counterstrike, (insert nonsensical physically impossible BULL DOODIE here)"

People suck.

[Camel]

Whenever I hear anyone mention CS in a serious conversation I feel the urge to yell "H4X LOL" , begin jumping and crouching, and attack them with a knife. :D

I once had someone say to me "9mm is weak, it takes like a hundred shots to kill a guy." I asked him if he'd like to volunteer for a test and promised to only shoot him once. He declined :evil:

[BHPshooter]

Counterstrike, while fun, is probably the worst popular source for gun information out there -- and everybody believes it. All of it.

Gun discussions in school were pretty fun. Kids who'd probably never even shot a gun would talk about how weak the .223 is, and would swear up and down that .30-'06 is the only round that will kill anything/anybody. I tried to explain to that kid (this was all in Junior High, BTW) about how .270 Win handloaders can use .30-'06 brass, but .30-'06 handloaders can't use .270 brass.

Insert blank look here. :scrutiny:

In High School, my heavily pro-gun friend and I were in the same Aviation class, where we'd watch "channel one." :rolleyes: They'd show clips of various drivel, and anything having to do with guns, we would immediately tear apart. You know, things like, "It's okay, that uncocked single-action isn't going to hurt anybody yet," and, "That was more than six shots." :evil:

It's so fun being able to tear the feeble world down around your classmates. :evil:

Wes

[Fred Thompson]

OK, I stand before you ready to be abused....what exactly

is "CounterStrike?

[Beetle Bailey]

Haven't played it, but Counterstrike is a video game. From looking at the box at the store, it looks like some kinda special forces/anti-terrorist game. Players can team up and play other teams. I'm actually kinda curious now about whether or not it's actually fun. . .:rolleyes:

[Ukraine Train]

I don't play it a whole lot but CS is a lot of fun. It's a first person shooter. You can play online against other people. I think it's usually a team of bad guys vs a team of good guys or you can do every man for hiimself.

[DigMe]

The first indicator that Counterstrike is not realistic is that the counter-terrorists do not use Extreme Shock Fang Face Anti-terrorist rounds. Sheah right!

In reality though it's funny that the .50 BMG sniper rifle pretty much is always one shot one kill but the Steyr Scout is rarely one shot one kill unless you hit them in the head. Those weak .376 steyr rounds are good fer nothin'! (actually now I want to say that on the game it states the Steyr is .338 Lapua but either way.... :rolleyes: )

brad cook

[Mute]

The Original (http://www.mallninja.com/Am%20I%20Being%20Careful%20Enough%20-%20Glock%20Talk.htm) and still the funniest.

[mondocomputerman]

Mute, that is great!!

[theCZ]

Counterstrike, the bane of my online gaming experiences. I played CS for a week or so, but then went back to playing Half-Life's Firearms mod. Don't have to wait to respawn, action is more realistic, and they are now making an attempt to make it more realistic. Also, Call of Duty is my current favorite online game.

Guarenteed on every CS game to have at least one kid who has claimed to have gone to "gun college", and by that I mean knows everything. It's a lot of fun to bait these people, and they usually get VERY angry about it. One expert got very angry at me when I corrected him after saying that the .223 Rem and the 5.56 Nato were VERY different. I mean, he was saying that they were completely different, not even the same caliber. :)

[BluesBear]

:evil:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=844230

[Combat-wombat]

Counterstrike it the only game I play, it is very fun.

But you're right, I hate it when people get their gun information from it. Like how you can kill someone by shooting them in the toe with an AWP. Someone I know actually believed this in real life.

Also, they don't say this in CS, but don't you just hate it when someone says "banana clip"? I hear that about 50 times a day for the idiots around here who think they know something about guns. I always flinch when I hear it.

[Gus Dddysgrl]

Counterstrike is something I've never played. In fact I don't play a lot of video games. I don't have much time to sit and talk on here, so why would I play video games? (rhetorical question don't need answer . :D :p )

Channel One-heehee what a joke. They tried to get kids interested in news. We made fun of how young and stupid they were. I didn't know too much about guns then, but knew more than they did. If they are gonna give news to kids so they watch it when they are older make it the real news and not news they heard a month ago on TV. Duh.

I did have a professor ask me if the .357 was a cop killer. I told her no. It's not the caliber of the gun that kills cops or people for that matter. It's the people shooting the guns that kill cops or people. She still gave me a funny look. Oh well.

[Skunkabilly]

In fact I don't play a lot of video games. I don't have much time to sit and talk on here, so why would I play video games?

Step one would to get your dad to quit hoggin' the computer :D C'mon you're like the only female contact I have besides the tech support lady at Dell. :(

Counter-Strike. I sucked at that game. I had to go play on the German servers because when I was up 10 pm, it would be like 6 am in Germany and I knew it was college kids who haven't been getting enough sleep. I STILL got my arse handed to me... Then I could practice my German while I was waiting for the round to finish.

I hate it when CS people find that I shoot, and ask if they can shoot a Deagle when we go to the range :rolleyes:

[Kodiak AK]

Combat-wombat I thought Bannana clip was a common term from Nam regarding AK mags. I wasn't there so I don't know , but I have had three different vets tell me so.

[BluesBear]

I have a banana hook in my kitchen, but I don't have any banana clips.
I have some potato chip clips in my kitchen too, but they won't hold a banana. :confused:



But then I went to Ikea and bought a magazine rack for the living room. The problem with it is that I can just barely get if ½ full of 1911 magazines before they start falling out of the ends. :(

[Treylis]

I remember people from Counterstrike referring to the Steyr Scout as the "BB gun" because of the completely puny effect of the 7.62x51mm fired from it. ;-)

It took two COM mass hits to take someone out with that thing.

[BryanP]

C'mon you're like the only female contact I have besides the tech support lady at Dell. :(

And the Dell lady's in India, so it's not like you can really ask her out. :p

That was just a joke Skunk. Really. Hey, what're you doing with that ... no, wait ... *splut*

Oh well, I didn't really need two knees anyway.

[Nick1911]

Channel One... I still have to put up with that bull---- dribble EVERY DAY. Sigh, three months and I'm out of that s---hole.

At any rate, I thought that "bananna clip" was what they are called? Is there a more proper name (other then "magazine")?
Nick

[George Hill]

CounterStrike blows.

Rogue Spear is the ticket.

Ghost Recon is the ticket.

Grand Theft Auto is the... well... you don't need a ticket, just boost it. GTA III and GTA VC are horrible, sick, perverted games... I can't wait for GTA SA!
:evil:

[BowStreetRunner]

coutrstrike was fun but firearms was better in my opinion
less cheaters
BSR

[Phyphor]

Long live Infiltration!

[larry_minn]

I have a high school aged relative who lives CS. He burned me a copy but I have only played it for 10 min. He thinks EVERYTHING in it is like in real life. He talks about all the (real SEALS) he has talked to online while playing the game and how they use the DEAGLE and crap like that. He has learned so much crap from the game that he KNOWS is true. :( :(

[Combat-wombat]

Well, just because they said "banana clip" in 'Nam doesn't mean it's correct. Remember-
IT'S A MAGAZINE, NOT A CLIP!!!

Sorry, just had to say that :D

[wintermute76]

Well, just because they said "banana clip" in 'Nam doesn't mean it's correct. Remember-
IT'S A MAGAZINE, NOT A CLIP!!!

Sorry, just had to say that



Amen to that. I went to Gander Mountain to pick up some .38 Spl, figured I'd ask the clerk (about 23 or so) if they had a mag for my Beretta 21A.

Me: Do you have a magazine for a Beretta 21A?
Clerk: Um....oh there on the table behind you...
Me: *looks at the table, it's full of Beretta and Ruger catalogs*
Me: No, a magazine.. .22 LR for this pistol *point thru the glass*
Clerk: You mean the owners guide?
Me: :rolleyes: No...a MAGAZINE......
Clerk: I don't know what you mean......you mean the clip?
Me: *sighs* yes a magazine....
Clerk: No...I don't think so...


And I thought Walmart was bad.....

[Gus Dddysgrl]

BryanP-yeah she may be in India, and I'm in PA and engaged so which one is harder to get to? ;) Heehee.

That's ok Jon doesn't mind if I keep guy friends as long as they know I am taken. It's funny how many guys still come a runnin' even though they know I'm not available.

(Skunk not saying you are but you are a good friend. Hope it stays that way for a long time. You are the only friend I have in California that talks to me regularly)

[Dannyboy]

ounterstrike is the WORST such game I have ever played. I bought it for the XBOX and I can't get rid of it. I'm gonna try and trade it in on Splinter Cell2. Man, I cannot even describe how much I hate that game. The only word that comes to mind that I can actually say here is CHEESY.

[Skunkabilly]

The one word I can think of when playing CS is "camping" Every time I see a 'no camping' sign by the freeway, I think of CS players.

[Justin]

Geeze. I feel blessed. I don't even have to go to the internet to get faulty gun info.

Every so often I'll have to work the morning shift, and put up with a guy who is about 24 and talks about his experience as an Air Force officer.

Told me he'd been a gunner (didn't say on what) and that they carried the Desert Eagle as their standard sidearm.

:rolleyes:

[Skunkabilly]

Justin, did it say 'replica' or 'point five-oh' on the side of it? :rolleyes:

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Cheese and Rice! all you kids and yer new fangled lah-de-da CounterStrike.

Why in my day we played Half-Life TFC! AND we only played the '2fort' map! And we didn't even have modems! We would write little ones and zeros on slips of paper and tie them to coconuts which would be carried by African swallows to the other players!

[BluesBear]

African Swallows???

Where did you find African Swallows in this climate?

[Chuck Jennings]

or were they european?? :p

[ceetee]

But where'd you get the coconuts?

[Nick1911]

Are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?

:D

Nick

[entropy]

Not at all. They could have been carried here.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=838279

[Skunkabilly]

I fart in your general direction.

[strambo]

By what a swallow?

[Logan5]

Bleah, the N64 won't play my James Bond Collection, but I have to say, it's the red shells in Mario Cart, all the way. The only problem is, eventually you have to let your 12 year old sister in law win, or she'll cry. No win situation.
Seriously though (my tagline) some of the worst gun talk I've seen has been in post-apocalypse fiction. Look no further than anything published by Gold Eagle, and the book's fansites. Someone will post something like "the M-60 does NOT fire .38 special" and it'll turn into a flame war. I can't complain, because I'm as guilty as they are just by looking at a website like that.

[uglygun]

Good grief, the gaming community what a sad sack those kids are....


What's worse is taking the fight to them to try to settle some of the arguments that you might watch them get into.



Counter Strike, never have I seen a group of people get some kind of "fan boy" mind set towards a firearm simply because of a freaking game! "OMG, M4!"


There is only one freaking firearm that I've ever seen that can rival the fame of the M4 due to it's exposure in Counter Strike and that is the HK PSG1 which sees high exposure in other games which is probably the result of careful HK marketing strategy of some kind.



I'm pretty active in the gaming community browsing almost as many game forums as I do gun forums. One of the more interesting places to visit is the "Desert Combat" modification site for Battlefield 1942. You get the Counter Strike M4 fanboys crossing over and errantly referring to the CAR-15 in the game as an M4, that winds up offending the Desert Combat CAR-15 fanboys so an argument takes place. What is funny is you get supposed "experts" shouting that the M4 couldn't have been around during Desert Storm(time frame for the Desert Combat mod) because it didn't exist before 1994. Ofcourse these folks are simply going off of the adoption date for the M4 when it was officially type classed.

After watching the little yelling match take place for a little while I just have to get involved. Even after putting in as much supporting information as possible regarding the development of the M4 and how the Colt carbines that eventually were to become the M4 did infact exist at the time, they still will have none of it. While technically the "M4" designation may not have been official yet, the firearm that was to become the M4 was likely around in the late 80s and being deployed as part of an XM project. Try to give them information such as Bushmaster contracts for M4-like firearms, references to the family of 14.5 inch barreled M16-A2 carbines, and the dates for when such program began in the mid 80s all winds up being a rather large waste. In the end they still believe what they want to believe.


One such "expert" continued to insist that it was legal for him to modify his uncles Mini-14 into being capable of full auto fire by messing with the guns disconnector. I politely tried to suggest he not do that for reasons of safety and legality only to be met by continued insistance that it's perfectly legal for him to modify the gun in such a way, AS WELL AS SAFE! :rolleyes:


Long story short, don't argue with 10-14 year olds on the internet about gun ownership.



WORSE, don't mention you even own guns if you are on a gaming site because you may be on one of the forums that is largely European based and then you'll get into nice debates about gun ownership, comments about how great "Bowling for Columbine" was by unknowning inexperienced DOLTS, and foreigners making off the cuff comments about how nobody needs an "assault weapon."


Then there are the goofballs who dredge up little urban legend type factoids like how a 5.56x45mm round tumbles in flight that's why it's so nasty when it impacts. That's always a fun one to try to explain in the middle of a game :D


Or how a 50BMG bullet creates enough of a shock wave while traveling through the air in supersonic flight that the shock wave alone can kill a person even if the bullet misses, like if it passes within a foot of you.

[Snark]

Being part of the gaming community, there isn't a whole lot more irratating than when gamers think they are experts because they play CounterStrike. Sometimes it makes me ashamed to be a gamer. On the other hand, I have introduced firearms to some of my friends by tempting them with CS-esque rifles. It was amusing to see their reaction when they realized crosshairs in a scope don't stay absolutly still when you are standing up.

CounterStrike is fun, but Day of Defeat is much better.

[BluesBear]

uglygun,

In 1966 Guns & Ammo magazine ran an article featuring the entire Colt AR-15 weapons system. Even back then there was a carbine version. It had the same triangular handguard but the barrel was shortened so the flashhider was right against the front sight.

There was even an aircrew survival version with a short stock, round handguard and an 11" barrel, that would fit, taken down, inside a standard seatpack.

And there was even a belt-fed heavy barrel version.

All of this was way before the forward assist.

The M-4 ain't a new idea.

[Chuck Jennings]

CounterStrike is fun, but Day of Defeat is much better.

That's a statement that would start a big fanboy feud! :p

[threeseven]

I think you'll find Desert Combat is actually based on the current Gulf conflict, not Desert Storm.

[zpo]

Original time frame for Desert Combat was GW1. It has been opened up to start at GW1 and include anything after that. Go to the official forums and do a search for gw1 and Dr. Spangle, lotsa arguments over that decision.

[uglygun]

BluesBear, yeah, I'm familiar with the older carbines such as the XM177s and variants upon the OLD original "CAR-15" concept with the retractable stock that was similar in appearance to a shortened A1 stock. The GAU-5 and other carbine M16s seemingly getting referred to with a generic term of "CAR-15", probably due to the overwhelming numbers of carbine type M16s that got turned out and difficulty keeping models straight.


I don't know the entire saga of the M16 variants and models because I simply refuse to knit pick into that much detail, it's just that I get a little antsy when a game forum starts shouting at one another about the M4 positively not existing before a certain date based upon it's adoption date.

The arguments that result in the forum I am talking about are simply between a group of people who are trying to argue about whether the gun in the game should be an M4 or should be a CAR-15. Not that it should make a lick of difference anyhow because it's a damned game in the first place. But you get people who think they know for certain that the gun, that would become the M4, didn't exist before 1994 soley based upon it's adoption date. It's very likely that special forces or other units were deploying with the gun that would become the M4, maybe it was the Colt 727 M16 A2 carbine or some other variation upon the theme. Compared to something like one of the other multitude of M16 carbines which seem to have been built using A1 receivers and getting barrel changes as ammo and required barrel twists came about.

[son of a gun]

Originally posted by southflorida03:
I have a quick question on the 12 gauge orange flare guns they sell without permit or restriction.

Is it possible to use the 12 gauge exotic ammo they sell on www.firequest.com (http://www.firequest.com) with the pistol?


Originally posted by Dillinger99:
Is it posible to convert a bb/pellet or paintball gun to fire live ammo? Dont tell me about the Brocock guns because they dont make those anymore and I couldnt find any on ebay.

Originally posted by Pyrooxide:
I was at this surples place and they have this military section that has a few gas masks. I didnt buy any cause they were like $30. But anyway a few days later i read this thing about gas masks and it turns out these ones at the surplus place are some ussr gasmasks that were classified until 1997. Think i can make any money of these by selling them to the government?

Originally posted by ContractKiller:
if someone were to swallow, say a bullet, would they be in danger of the bullet exploding amidst the intestinal acids?

Originally posted by vercetti:
is there any place that can suppyl all the parts to make a glock G17 ?? 9mm ?? has anyone ever done this ? ordering parts online and putting them all together?

Originally posted by Marco120588:
Does anyone here have a real stun gun?? I have one and i was wondering if it was possible to make it silent. I was thinking of tieing copper wire from one of the "test prongs" to the other. The prongs that the electricity jump from and make a loud crackling noise. I am thinking instead of jumping through the air and making the noise, the electricity will just silently go through the wire. Would this work?? Is there any other ways of making the stun gun silent??

[Chuck Jennings]

son of a gun:

That was some great research! :D

[Joshua Hutchison]

I like the 3rd one......:D

[BluesBear]

Son of a gun, those belong in the Hall Of Fame.

:eek:

Or is that Shame?

[nico]

son of a gun, you have GOT to post a link to the forum where you found those jewels!:eek: :D

[stv]

My biggest pet peeve regards Counterstrike fanboys and how they all revere the "deagle."



"DEAGLE" ISN'T A WORD, MORONS! IT'S "DESERT EAGLE!"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Phyphor]

"Deagle" is merely the variable/model name in counterstrike, that represents the given pistol choice for a player.

It's displayed in the console whenever someone makes a kill with it.


I doubt the CS team ever meant it to go this far. :D

[Beetle Bailey]

son of a gun I'm speechless. I used to say with conviction "There are no stupid questions." Now I'm not so sure. :uhoh:

Okay, I changed my mind. I'm not going to go out and buy Counterstrike . I'm afraid of that game now :uhoh: .

[SoCalGeek]

Don't worry, it's not the game as much as the players you need to watch out for. :cool:

[Moparmike]

I still prefer TFC. Its so much fun redecorating the walls in brain matter gray on the computer.:p

And its one boatload of fun using that chaingun. Too bad you move at the speed of slug when you do.