Considering a Colt Defender


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longhair75
November 30, 2012, 03:53 PM
I have some cash on hand, and I am interested in the Colt Defender. It has been hard to find reviews of this pistol, and some of them do not seem all that positive. So far I have seen that they will not take standard 7 round 1911 magazines and, in the opinion of a few random people making Youtube videos, it shoot lower than the site picture.

What is the straight story?

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2wheels
November 30, 2012, 04:49 PM
Standard 7 or 8 round 1911 mags will fit in a Defender, but they'll stick out of the frame slightly. It's best to use a grip extender with them, X-grip makes some.

As for it shooting lower, well I wouldn't know. Might be the reviewers fault.

The Defender (or the New Agent, which I have) is a great 1911, my New Agent has been accurate, reliable, and carries easily.

wrench
November 30, 2012, 06:17 PM
We have a Defender in the house, it is reliable and accurate. No issues at all.
I do only use wilson mags in it, though.

orionengnr
November 30, 2012, 07:45 PM
Disclaimer: I am a fan of 1911s, and especially the lighter/shorter versions. I will try to be objective, but I readily admit my biases.

As stated above, the Defender will accept the Government-length mags, but will protrude from the frame approx 1/2".

If you do so, you gain one round back, but compromise the concealability of the handgun. You can get 7-round flush-fit Officer mags, but test any mag to ensure reliability.

The shorter 1911s get some bad press...some deserved, some not.

It is a fact that the shorter 1911s have a smaller window within which to operate correctly. The slide is both lighter and shorter, the springs are heavier...everything happens faster.

If you buy a quality small 1911 and keep fresh springs in it, you will likely have no problems.

ETA: if you can, try to see if you can test-fire the pistol you are buying, not only to see that it functions, but especially so you can experience how a 3" alloy 1911 shoots. Enjoy.

Of course, that is true of larger and heavier 1911s as well. That has been my experience, anyway.

I have had...let's see (grabs paper and pencil) to the best of my recollection, nine different 3" 1911s, four with steel frames and the remainder with aluminum alloy frames.

(Also, two Springfield EMPs, which I am excluding from this discussion because they are a 93% scale model of a 1911, and the frame/slide/barrel are not interchangeable with any 1911.)

Bottom line: a 3" 1911 (especially one with an alloy frame) is a very carry-friendly and conceal-able handgun. If you like 1911s, but don't want to carry a +/-38 oz. steel 5 incher, you will very likely love the 24 oz. Defender.

Oh, one more thing. Some people put tons of rounds through their lightweight 1911s. Aluminum is lighter than steel, and will experience faster wear as well.

I shoot my carry guns, but I don't use them as range guns. I have a steel 1911 that I put a good number of rounds through. I put a few mags through the alloy framed model to insure that I can still hit what I am pointing at. This way, the steel 1911 gets the majority of the range rounds, and I shoot the alloy one enough to be confident in carrying it.

I used the same tactic when I carried j-frames. Try to wear out the steel one (not bloody likely), carry the Scandium one and shoot it a bit.

MICHAEL T
December 1, 2012, 12:48 AM
My Defender has been a great pistol Totaly relieable . It a early model with the staked front sight. I also had a Colt New Agent when they came out . Ijust traded it in the last mo. I could never warm up to the gutter sight . I always shot low. So Defender stayed and Agent traded for another AR-15 . Agent was also very relieable Just the sight thing.

bannockburn
December 1, 2012, 05:55 AM
I have a Colt New Agent with the XS sights on it. I bought this version primarily for the sights as they are great for quick aquisition. The gun itself is very compact and a natural fit in my hand.

longhair75
December 2, 2012, 10:02 AM
Thank you all, my friends, for the help here. I will start shopping.

Patrice
December 2, 2012, 05:31 PM
Hhmmm....Not that I own firearms or ammunition any more, but I traded a Colt Defender with a significant # of 7-round magazines (officer's model) to my spouse, and we're both quite happy. Fires very rapidly, and is quite accurate.--Patrice

TheReeves
December 2, 2012, 06:05 PM
Carried mine nearly every day for the past 6 years if that says anything towards how I feel about the Defender.

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