Obama Surge and GLOCK: The Rise of America's Gun


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Paul Barrett
December 1, 2012, 12:08 PM
Hello, THRers!

I thought some of you would be interested in a little piece I wrote for Bloomberg Businessweek about the Obama gun surge:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-11/the-obama-gun-surge

Separately, my book, GLOCK: The Rise of America's Gun, did well this year, in no small part due to support from members of The High Road. So, thanks.

All best,
Paul M. Barrett

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Mikee Loxxer
December 1, 2012, 12:13 PM
Thanks for being part of our forum Paul.

Trent
December 1, 2012, 12:16 PM
Link doesn't work.

Baba Louie
December 1, 2012, 12:28 PM
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-11/the-obama-gun-surge

Try that link

ETA surge Pt 2 link

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-07/obama-gun-surge-take-2

22-rimfire
December 1, 2012, 12:45 PM
There are mixed feelings about the federal government intruding into what has been a states issue when it comes to handgun carry permits.

The President has been good for the firearm, accessory, and ammunition businesses (so far). I hope that continues. But his leanings are certainly toward more controls. He would liken it to his proposed tax on the "rich" as being the "right thing to do" for the American People. His way is to do an end around the legislative process if he can or accomplish his objectives through the courts.

I am suprised that the article did not mention the law/regulation that allows carry in national parks and forests in compliance with the state or local laws that are in place. But that was actually started during the Bush Administration and signed by the current President.

Who knows what the future holds?

we are not amused
December 1, 2012, 01:09 PM
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-11/the-obama-gun-surge

Try that link

ETA surge Pt 2 link

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-07/obama-gun-surge-take-2

Thanks for the link!

Interesting article, and it does point out the fear and uncertainty over guns and gun control.

Wayne LaPierre is quite correct about Obama's gun control history, but it is also a fact that as of yet, no new gun control initiatives have been launched.

Is Obama playing possum? Or does he believe that there is no substantial support for more gun control, and is choosing more winnable battles?

Personally, I believe that Obama is planning on restricting gun rights, but not through more regulation and laws, but through the courts, by appointing federal Judges who will seek to role back and restrict 2nd Amendment rights.

This makes fighting his actions harder, but more important than ever. we must contact our Senators and urge them to exercise their "consent and advice" powers to influence the selection of Federal Judges, Appeal Court Judges, and Supreme Court Judges.

By the way, while I am not going out and panic buying, I do intend to purchase several guns and more ammunition in the near future, largely as a response to Obama's reelection. I am just waiting until the recent upsurge has subsided.

we are not amused
December 1, 2012, 01:22 PM
I am suprised that the article did not mention the law/regulation that allows carry in national parks and forests in compliance with the state or local laws that are in place. But that was actually started during the Bush Administration and signed by the current President.



Actually, our Dear Leader was opposed to that regulation, and refused to defend it when it was challenged by a silly argument in the Courts and overturned by a Liberal Judge with more anti-gun feelings than legal knowledge.

Incensed by the ruling and Obama's response, Gun Rights activist in both parties were able to attach an even more strongly worded Concealed Carry Bill as an amendment to a Bill that Obama would not veto. Exactly how that happened is an interesting tale I hope gets fully told sometime. But make no mistake, President Obama strongly opposed it.

Baba Louie
December 1, 2012, 03:04 PM
I think a wise man would look to Chicago and Cook County IL for past performance, note the current conditions therein and make a judgement based on same to see if that possibly bodes an ill wind for the rest of the nation in regard to the RKBAs. I would be a little put out, maybe even peeved, if I had to pay for a State or DHS/Congressional approved FOID to buy ammo or go into a gunstore to even hold a firearm I was considering to buy. :scrutiny:

This 2nd surge... 'Tis a curious phenomenon, I'll give you that.

There might be yet another book in it Mr Barrett, this curious phenom... :uhoh:

Of course, it could just be a coincidence or phase of the moon.

NightmareCreature
December 1, 2012, 05:01 PM
The Glock is NOT America's handgun. The 1911 IS America's handgun and always will be.

Cosmoline
December 1, 2012, 05:42 PM
If new regs do come they'll be back end, not front end. The front end is a third rail. That includes the AWB. But something like an obscure amendment to a huge tax reform that effectively penalizes primer manufacturers might happen if the antis are clever enough. That worries me MUCH more than some sound and fury from the usual suspects about high caps or "assault weapons."

As far as Obama himself, he's going to govern in the center-left to ensure his party keeps that critical ground for future elections. He will not move hard left because it will endanger the coalition that pulled the swing states into the blue for two elections now.

wacki
December 1, 2012, 05:55 PM
The Glock is NOT America's handgun. The 1911 IS America's handgun and always will be.

Would you still say this if Glock sales outnumbered 1911 sales by 3 to 1 margin?

DammitBoy
December 1, 2012, 06:03 PM
Glock, while having significant sales is not an american made gun or an iconic symbol of america.

mljdeckard
December 1, 2012, 06:05 PM
IN YOUR OPINION, the 1911 is America's handgun. But BY LEGISLATION, it actually IS UTAH'S handgun. :D

josiewales
December 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
Would you still say this if Glock sales outnumbered 1911 sales by 3 to 1 margin?


Glocks are Austrian. Colt is American.




By the way, what is up with the backwards Glock? Custom LH?

Baba Louie
December 1, 2012, 06:27 PM
Muahahaha, you guys... that Barrett is so sneaky ;)

The article(s) on the surge is brief and worth a read but nothing we all don't know.

The book title... a few well chosen words... a little controversy that does seem to get some people fired up. You who disagree with the book title might ponder where Gaston would be without the tremendous US sales of his design. Or not.

Go to the Library... check out the book. :p

Some interesting facts, history and yes, opinion perhaps, spelled out therein. Timing is everything, sometimes. Like a, oh I dunno, a surge?

Sam Cade
December 1, 2012, 06:32 PM
Glock, while having significant sales is not an american made gun or an iconic symbol of america.


Glock manufactures pistols in the US. Mostly for export but I've got a US built G19 on my desk as I type this.

Sam Cade
December 1, 2012, 06:41 PM
By the way, what is up with the backwards Glock? Custom LH?

It is an Italian made GAP 8mm blank pistol that has gone through photoshop.

EddieNFL
December 1, 2012, 07:30 PM
Would you still say this if Glock sales outnumbered 1911 sales by 3 to 1 margin?

They probably do...and, yes.

Steve CT
December 1, 2012, 08:09 PM
They probably do...and, yes.
Build Glocks wherever you want, not now and not ever America's Gun.

Lot's of 1911's built elsewhere, 1911 is still America's Gun.

Warp
December 1, 2012, 08:29 PM
Build Glocks wherever you want, not now and not ever America's Gun.

Lot's of 1911's built elsewhere, 1911 is still America's Gun.

Depends which generation you ask.

Check the holster of the next LEO you see. Probably going to see a Glock. Almost surely not going to see a 1911.

NightmareCreature
December 1, 2012, 09:02 PM
I don't rightly care what handgun is in a LEO's holster.

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 1, 2012, 09:04 PM
Guys, get over it. It's just the title of a book. Please focus on the topic at hand.

barnbwt
December 2, 2012, 12:10 AM
From the letter, one might infer that it’s been a very bad four years for gun owners, gunmakers, and gun rights. Hardly.
That's my take on things. I know complacency is counterproductive, but would it kill the NRA to acknowledge we're at least farther from a "sky is falling" scenario these days? ARs are commonly accepted for cripes sake! That said, the President's abrupt shift toward gun control (even if it is just baby steps so far) immediately after reelection is quite ominous. I'm somewhat convinced he did the UN treaty thing right after election night mainly to rattle NRA/RKBA folks as a victory taunt.

Man, would it kill the editors at Business Week to use a photo that doesn't demonstrate unsafe practices? (sorry, but we always give our own posters here a hard time about this ;)) Nice special edition "Southpaw" Glock, though :D

TCB

9MMare
December 2, 2012, 12:23 AM
Congratulations on being a published author.

May I ask, who decided Glock is America's gun? Or am I not inferring correctly from the title?

9MMare
December 2, 2012, 12:27 AM
There are mixed feelings about the federal government intruding into what has been a states issue when it comes to handgun carry permits.

The President has been good for the firearm, accessory, and ammunition businesses (so far). I hope that continues. But his leanings are certainly toward more controls. He would liken it to his proposed tax on the "rich" as being the "right thing to do" for the American People. His way is to do an end around the legislative process if he can or accomplish his objectives through the courts.

I am suprised that the article did not mention the law/regulation that allows carry in national parks and forests in compliance with the state or local laws that are in place. But that was actually started during the Bush Administration and signed by the current President.

Who knows what the future holds?

Interesting. Do you have any links with quotes or proposed legislation or other that support this?

Carne Frio
December 2, 2012, 01:20 AM
The folks in what country buy most of the
worlds's Glocks ? Got to be here. I own seven
myself. And have almost as many Colts.

Our leader is letting his party of socialists
do the dirty work in congress. They keep
pushing for restrictive gun laws.

9MMare
December 2, 2012, 01:25 AM
The folks in what country buy most of the
worlds's Glocks ? Got to be here. I own seven
myself. And have almost as many Colts.

Our leader is letting his party of socialists
do the dirty work in congress. They keep
pushing for restrictive gun laws.

Folks in what country buy most of the world's handguns?

And I havent seen an upsurge in any restrictions since Obama's election, only expansions. AZ, WI, WY, Nat Parks, DC, etc. Not even after the Gifford shooting.

EddieNFL
December 2, 2012, 08:35 AM
Check the holster of the next LEO you see. Probably going to see a Glock. Almost surely not going to see a 1911.

Don't see of cops cruising their beat in a CTS, either. Americans buy lots of Toyotas, as well. Glock is still an Austrian firearm.

Sam1911
December 2, 2012, 09:45 AM
Guys, get over it. It's just the title of a book. Please focus on the topic at hand.

There, is the text a little easier to make out now? :scrutiny:

Buzznrose
December 2, 2012, 11:37 AM
Paul,

You rightly mention that the president has not pushed overtly for increased gun control, and I can grudgingly go with "innocent until proven guilty" with regards to any malintent in Fast and Furious, but his two SCOTUS judges clearly have no appreciation for armed citizens and can wreak havoc on gun rights long after our current president has left his post.

Also, FWIW and only IMO, your article ended awkwardly abrupt...left me looking for page 2. Was it cut off, or simply be your style, as I've not read you work before.

Disagreements aside, thank you for sharing your article.

r1derbike
December 2, 2012, 05:18 PM
I believe there is a Part Deux of the article floating around somewhere, I'll look for the link.

Such as it is:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-07/obama-gun-surge-take-2

Sam1911
December 3, 2012, 02:33 PM
Ahhh, well, guess this one's run its course.

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