Laser sights?


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BC&C
December 1, 2012, 05:21 PM
Looking to install a green laser sight on my M4.
Have read the reviews and specs for barska, laserlyte and a few others.
Not personally impressed from what I've read.

1) Who makes the MOST dependable laser sight on the market?
2) Is there a laser sight which is visible up to 400-600 yards?
3) What kind of price range are we talking about?

Thanks

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allaroundhunter
December 1, 2012, 09:06 PM
If you actually want the most dependable laser sight on the market that will be visible out at 4-600 yards, you are talking several thousand dollars.

Also, for you to zero it at say, 400 yards, it will be wildly inaccurate at most any range from 0-350 yards....

rcmodel
December 1, 2012, 09:29 PM
2) Is there a laser sight which is visible up to 400-600 yards?What allaroundhunter just said.

You really need to understand a rifle bullets trajectory before you start thinking about using any laser at 400-600 yards.

If you could see it at 600 yards, and you did sight it in at that distance?

You would miss everything between here and there, then miss some more at anything past that distance.

Unless you are shooting a particle beam weapon?
A laser can only be sighted in at one distance.

Then the bullet path will cross the laser beam twice.
Once on the way up, and once on the way back down.

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/files/2010/09/rsballistics_0303a.jpg

rc

BC&C
December 1, 2012, 10:27 PM
That thought crossed my mind.
I guess I should have asked what's the most visible, (brightest) and dependable laser on the market for 100 yards and closer.
Figured if it could be seen at 400-600 yards then 100 yards could be seen by a blind man.
Eye sight isn't so good these days and need every edge I can acquire.

Thanks

rcmodel
December 1, 2012, 10:41 PM
You can't see a Crimson Trace red laser at 25 yards in bright sunlight.
And they are as good as is legal under U.S. law.

I have no idea how far you can see one with night vision.

Green lasers burn through battery's faster then you can buy them according to what I have heard.

IMO: A laser isn't an "edge" for rifle shooting, unless it is a laser designator used for calling in smart bombs on target.

rc

MachIVshooter
December 2, 2012, 07:04 PM
You can't see a Crimson Trace red laser at 25 yards in bright sunlight.
And they are as good as is legal under U.S. law.

There really aren't any regulations on lasers as far as ownership. Use is another matter, though. You can purchase (with no restrictions) a 2 watt handheld laser that is powerful enough to ignite materials and cut things, but if you burn someone with it, it's definitely an assault crime. Shine it in the window of an airliner, very serious federal crime (and yes, there are production, hand-held blue and green lasers that will project more than 40 miles)

Green lasers burn through battery's faster then you can buy them according to what I have heard

Pretty much. Blue and violet are even worse. Much more intense beams, thus consume more power.

Ehtereon11B
December 3, 2012, 02:56 AM
I have a Zbolt BTMK-2S that I acquired a couple years ago. About as big around as a ball point pen and slightly longer than one. Green laser that runs on 2AAA, played around with it last night and was visible for at least 200 meters at night. Holds a zero well if mounted correctly. Runs between $125 and 200 which isn't bad compared to 400+ when it first came out.

modarmory
December 5, 2012, 08:41 PM
+1 The Zbolt is a decent product.

Our knowledge is primarily IR lasers but Crimson Trace and LDI Laser Devices are great companies.

helotaxi
December 6, 2012, 11:38 AM
I have no idea how far you can see one with night vision.Miles and miles. A cheap laser pointer projects a spot visible more than 5 miles away on good night vision.

IMO: A laser isn't an "edge" ... unless it is a laser designator used for calling in smart bombs on target.My normal use for one ;)

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