Does Winchester make good semi-auto shotguns


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JROC
December 2, 2012, 01:21 PM
I got to thinking the other day that you really don't hear much about Winchester semi-auto shotguns. It seems when you think auto shotguns you think of companies like Remington, Browning, Beretta, Benelli, and maybe a few others, but those are the ones that come to mind. I own a old Winchester model 1912 12 ga pump and think it's a great gun, and most seem to have a good opinion of Winchester pumps, but I really don't now much about their auto-loaders. What's y'all opinion on them?

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Steve H
December 2, 2012, 01:39 PM
I can't speak for what they are making/selling now but I bought a new Winchester 1500 XTR back in the early 80's that has been an excellent gun.

JohnBT
December 2, 2012, 04:03 PM
If you like the Brownings, you'll like the Winchesters because they're the same company - FN/Herstal Group. They bought Winchester/USRAC in 1987 I believe.

I bought a used 2003 Winchester SX-2 Waterfowl in 2006 and it's been a fine gun.

John

oneounceload
December 2, 2012, 04:07 PM
The older SX-1 is considered to be one of the better semis made from a speed standpoint

MCgunner
December 2, 2012, 04:08 PM
I think the SX3 is current? I like my old 1400 a lot better since I put a left hand safety on it. That gun was a perfect fit right out of the box and I've never shot a 12 gauge that was quite as soft on the shoulder. Don't even need a recoil pad on that thing. I bought it about 1988 from a Walmart. It's the birch wood "ranger" version.

JAshley73
December 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
If they fit me better, I'd have bought a new SX-3. It looked like a very nicely built gun, and I read nothing but positive reviews about them.

PabloJ
December 2, 2012, 06:32 PM
I got to thinking the other day that you really don't hear much about Winchester semi-auto shotguns. It seems when you think auto shotguns you think of companies like Remington, Browning, Beretta, Benelli, and maybe a few others, but those are the ones that come to mind. I own a old Winchester model 1912 12 ga pump and think it's a great gun, and most seem to have a good opinion of Winchester pumps, but I really don't now much about their auto-loaders. What's y'all opinion on them?
The steel brick of a gun called SX-1 is favorite with Winchester Boys Club. I prefer the extra light thingy with miles of fiberglass sheets wrapped around steel core of the barrel and chokes with porting that came with some of them. I believe that was first modern S/A
to be equipped with choke tubes.

oneounceload
December 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
Sorry. but ported choke tubes is the biggest snake oil sales job in the history of firearms

Virginian
December 2, 2012, 07:17 PM
A widely held belief is that Winchester did not offer a really good semi from the time they turned down old John Browning's design until the advent of the Super X one decades later. It was sort of like the gun version of "the curse of the Bambino".
I haven't heard anything bad about the current Brownchesters.

JohnBT
December 2, 2012, 09:21 PM
I like my SX-1 field gun, too.

Sock Puppet
December 2, 2012, 10:08 PM
I've shot (but don't own) an SX-3 and it was a fine shotgun. CDNN has a great deal on them right now, and I'd snag one if I hadn't blown my gun budget.

bergmen
December 7, 2012, 08:54 PM
I have a model 59 with a model 50 (steel) receiver. It has been nearly flawless for over fifty years. I have a 3 barrel set with it (26" IC, 28" MOD, 30" FULL). All fiberglass over steel tubes.

Dan

Virginian
December 7, 2012, 09:14 PM
Do not get sucked in by tales of individual guns doing well. I am not saying there have not been individual examples of problem free guns, but there have been volumes written about the losers. I have seen way more than one fuzzy fiberglas wrapped steel barrel. I can just imaging hugging it and then itching unbearably for months !

pureadrenaline
December 7, 2012, 11:47 PM
My father bought me a 16 ga model 1400 in 1967. It is an excellent shotgun and looks as good as when I received it. I'll be getting one in 12ga from Gunbroker at some point.

Ar180shooter
December 8, 2012, 02:24 AM
The SX3's are a solid shotgun. Hard to go wrong with the current Browning/Winchester firearms.

303tom
December 9, 2012, 12:46 AM
The SX3's are a solid shotgun. Hard to go wrong with the current Browning/Winchester firearms.
I Concur.......................

Pete D.
December 9, 2012, 07:01 AM
I prefer the extra light thingy with miles of fiberglass sheets wrapped around steel core of the barrel and chokes with porting that came with some of them.
That'd be the model 59. I have one that I use for Upland hunting....though mine has a fixed choke (mod.) and is not ported. Less than six pounds, easy to carry all day.
I have a 25 straight with it at ATA Trap. A great shotgun. No fuzzies.
Pete

Sav .250
December 9, 2012, 08:29 AM
Why not go to the Win site and see what they have to offer? Opinions,while heplful can very baised at times. Not all have had a chance to own all/a lot
of the Semi-auto`s available. Hard to compare one against another. J s/n.

jerinco
December 9, 2012, 10:43 AM
ive owned my sx3 for 3yrs now. i havnt had any problems with it and love it. the synthetic models have a shim kit that allows you adjust the length of the stock, the height of the comb, and you can adjust the stock left or right with this shim kit as well. id put this gun up against a benneli any day of the week or in any duck blind for that matter.

DPris
December 9, 2012, 04:51 PM
Regardless of past Winchester guns & what they were, there currently is no "Winchester" company, it's now a brand name licensed by Browning to import & sell foreign and domestically produced guns for FN.

Current Winchester-marked guns come from sources in South Carolina, Turkey, and Japan.
There is no Winchester factory.
Denis

JohnBT
December 10, 2012, 09:41 PM
"Current Winchester-marked guns come from sources in South Carolina, Turkey, and Japan."

They don't make any Winchester shotguns in Belgium/Portugal anymore? I guess I missed the news.


"the Super X line of shotguns including the new Super X3 autoloader and the new Super X Rifle (SXR) centerfire autoloader. Both are made in Belgium and assembled in Portugal. In addition, we will continue with our line of quality Select over and unders: the only production Belgium-made over and unders in the world."

- 2006 www.winchesterguns.com/library/articles/detail.asp?id=116

gpb
December 10, 2012, 11:57 PM
The new model 101s marked "Winchester" are made by FN in Belgium.

PabloJ
December 11, 2012, 06:51 AM
"Current Winchester-marked guns come from sources in South Carolina, Turkey, and Japan."

They don't make any Winchester shotguns in Belgium/Portugal anymore? I guess I missed the news.


"the Super X line of shotguns including the new Super X3 autoloader and the new Super X Rifle (SXR) centerfire autoloader. Both are made in Belgium and assembled in Portugal. In addition, we will continue with our line of quality Select over and unders: the only production Belgium-made over and unders in the world."

- 2006 www.winchesterguns.com/library/articles/detail.asp?id=116
Winchester is gone. Some company is making guns and putting Winchester name on them. The X3 looks just like Browning or FNH police offering.

SuperXOne
December 12, 2012, 05:25 AM
Hello, folks,,,,I've decided to expand beyond Shotgunworld, and try this forum out.

I'm quite opinionated about Winchester's Super X Model One, and believe that it's the finest gas operated target shotgun ever devised by the hand of man. Period.

Before that, the Winchester Model 50 wound up being a good shotgun, but early on had some very serious problems, all of which were corrected by Winchester before the end of the model in the early 1960's. A good Model 50, and I own a very nice 20 gauge Skeet model with a Cutts, is a wonderful bargain in used semi auto shotguns today.

The Winchester 1400/1500 series were nice looking, soft shooting, great handling shotguns with all the integrity of a counterfeit Rolex watch sold on a street corner by a guy in a raincoat. Stay away. So long as they work they work well, but eventually one of those cheapo parts inside is going to break or wear out, and if you can even get a replacement part it's going to be the same stamped, pot metal, or plastic part that failed in the first place.

The new semi autos that bear Winchester's name might be wonderful shotguns, but for what they cost you can buy a very nice target grade SX1,,,so I don't have one yet.:)

DPris
December 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sorry, left out Belgium.
The main point is that there is no Winchester company & no Winchester factory. :)
Denis

mach1.3
December 12, 2012, 02:47 PM
I have several Winchester shotguns that have been handed down or bought over the past 50 yrs.
1. Model 50 with a modified choke 28" bbl. Was Dad's go to gun for ducks.
2. Model 59 with WinLite~27" glaswrapped bbl. with both the M and IC screw-in slit ported chokes---great gun for quail or doves. Very soft recoil, easy to tote in the field and didn't come with a recoil pad. Haven't shot many high brass shells with it but should handle them well.
3. Model SX-1* with 28" modified choke bbl. Beautiful gun, a little on the heavy side but sets up perfectly for me.
4. Model SX-3, great gun, basically=to a Browning Silver hunter. 28" bbl.w/all the chokes. I don't remember the type of metal coat Winchester uses but it seems very tough against the elements. Mine, also has the synthetic stock.

* I have replaced the recoil buffer, the recoil/return spring, the recoil pad, the bolt return lever and have a Simmons Specialties VR with tru-glo front and intermediate sights on the SX-1. It is an early four digit SN# gun with the adjustable with the allen screw trigger when the trigger group is removed.

The answer to your original question is "YES" Winchester does and has made very good auto-loading shotguns.

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